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    *** Official Clevo P950HP6/Sager NP8950 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, May 11, 2017.

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    It does not appear on the spec list, so I assume it does not supported.
     
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    Unfortunately they aren't, so external G-Sync is a no-go.
     
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    Yes the original machines based on that chassis type are all IGP wired.
     
    Meaker@Sager, May 25, 2017
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    No TB3 on these slim 15" models, but the slim 17" do come with it...
     
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    If they get that TB3 integrated straight off the CPU not relying on the bandwidth to the chipset it becomes more interesting IMO.
     
    Meaker@Sager, May 27, 2017
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    I heard there is a 1070 version of it? using maxQ and better cooling
     
    Aisaka Taiga, May 30, 2017
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    With the thin chassis of the 8950? Dear god that would be awesome
     
    Xennyatta, May 30, 2017
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    I wonder if/when this will be available in the UK. Looking to replace my W230SS as it is starting to show its age.
     
    biovf, May 30, 2017
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  9. TyroG

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    Interested by this laptop if it comes with Thunderbolt 3
     
    TyroG, Jun 1, 2017
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  10. Aisaka Taiga

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    unfortunately no...
     
    Aisaka Taiga, Jun 1, 2017
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    How would this machine compare to the Asus ROG GL502VM? Excluding the gsync screen of the ROG because I don't want gsync
     
    IunnoM80, Jun 3, 2017
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  12. comicgeek

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    Thinner and cheaper!
     
    comicgeek, Jun 3, 2017
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  13. IunnoM80

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    Sadly , the only reseller that sells this model in Malaysia prices the base model slightly higher than the Asus ROG GL502VM :( Although they apparently use a samsung panel.
    Is it worth it though? The only thing holding me back is the apparently annoying fans . Also , how do you put in a 2.5 inch HDD in there?
    The cooling and build quality is better than the Asus right?
    Which tier would the p950 be in the Build Quality tier list.

    https://www.techarmory.my/index.php?route=product/product&path=73_76&product_id=395
    This is the link to the reseller I'm looking at , you can just use google to convert the currency I guess.
     
    IunnoM80, Jun 3, 2017
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  14. comicgeek

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    Not surprising actually. Everything electronics is always more expensive in South East Asia. Try checking Aftershockpc I think they will deliver to Malaysia.
     
    comicgeek, Jun 3, 2017
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  15. TyroG

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    Link for the 17" slim model also is it coming with a 1070 Max Q / 1080? Thanks
     
    TyroG, Jun 3, 2017
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    You take the bottom cover off and use the bracket to install a 2.5" drive.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 3, 2017
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  17. David Pinheiro

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    Any ideas on wheater a p950hp6-g is comming? If they do it like the p650 where you can switch from optimus to g sync in your bios settings it would be great. Most people when gaming will be charging the laptop anyways so theres no battery problem with g-sync there and graphical gains would be immense. Then, when at work/school/cafe/wherever while websurfing or doing other light stuff they could benefit from optimus! I really thank that would make it stand out.
    Also maybe an option for those who wont use the 2.5'' slot and want a bigger battery. I have a desktop where i can put large files, on my ultraportable laptop what i want is compact performance and lasting batteries, otherwise I would get a desktop replacement style one. Hard drives are slower, noisier, more fragile, occupy more space, need more power, all disadvantages that for many wont really make sense on a ultraportable laptop. Yes they are less expensive than ssds, but you are already paying that much for a laptop so. At least having the option for a bigger battery instead would be fine.
     
    David Pinheiro, Jun 4, 2017
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    No, the motherboard does not have hardware switches designed in.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 4, 2017
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  19. Rijndaal

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    Hi guys... Is there any European reseller that has this notebook?
     
    Rijndaal, Jun 7, 2017
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  20. Prema

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    E3
     
    Prema, Jun 7, 2017
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    Imagine this with a Ryzen CPU and a 1070. If they somehow price it bellow 2000USD this would be the best do anything laptop. They just need an option where you can choose a larger battery if you're not going to use the HDD since m.2 would be the future.
     
    PlarG, Jun 8, 2017
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  23. Jake Olaso

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    Hi Guys,

    I just purchased this laptop. Is it really getting that hot? I noticed that when I am just editing, the left side of the keyboard gets hot. When you touch the casing, it is really annoyingly hot. Then when I render, the cpu gets around 100C. The casing is too hot too touch. I use premiere and I have my other hand resting on the 1-2 keys so it is really bothering me.

    My old g750js gets 100C also but I do not get to feel any hot regions on the laptop keyboard area. Probably because np8950 is too thin? Or this is not normal? Can I return it just because it gets really hot?

    My room is not aircon, and it gets kinda hot, but when I moved to an AC room, it feels a little cool, but when you render it is super hot.

    Thank you!
    Jake
     
    Jake Olaso, Jun 19, 2017
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  24. Donald@Paladin44

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    Whether you can return it will be determined by where you bought it. Check their return policy...most have a 30 Day Return Policy.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jun 19, 2017
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  25. Meaker@Sager

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    Thinner and lighter machines will get hot when doing a task like rendering yes. If you want to do consistent tasks like that then the larger series machines will suit you better.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 20, 2017
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  26. Jake Olaso

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    I am editing now using this and am not even rendering. The chasis is getting a little hot but bearable, though I cannot imagine this on my lap.

    I am curios if this is the case for macbooks, dell xps and even the msi gs 63vr. All thin laptops.
     
    Jake Olaso, Jun 20, 2017
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    Does anyone know if it would be possible to install an AUO B156HTN05.2 120hz panel in this computer, and if so, would the brightness be adjustable?
     
    compuspec, Jun 21, 2017
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  28. comicgeek

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    You also have to consider the processor that your machine has. A MacBook pro has a lower voltage dual core chip inside which has way lower TDP. The MSI G63vr (first Gen) has a powerful processor and a gtx 1060 and it not only get hot but also has a very high pitched fan noise. I was wondering how they managed to pass the Max-Q validation from Nvidia.
     
    comicgeek, Jun 21, 2017
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    Pure Db does not take into account how the human really perceives the sound.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 22, 2017
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  30. Jake Olaso

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    you are right. will try undervolting tomorrow and see if it helps. so far aside from the heat, I am very happy with this laptop. Perfectly thin and powerful.
     
    Jake Olaso, Jun 22, 2017
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    finally made an improvement.

    today, I purchased a laptop cooler ball:
    http://www.deepcool.com/product/nbcooler/upto17/2014-01/27_753.shtml

    I combined it to max fan profile and undervolt it to -0.125 stable, got impressive results.

    laptop is now bearable to touch even rendering.

    with load max fans with ball with xtu -0.125

    laptop 49-78C
    cpu 45-79C
    gpu 41-48C

    this are my temps from idle to render. so far so good! :)
     
    Jake Olaso, Jun 22, 2017
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  32. zacwhite15

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    hey guys, anyone know where i can snag the 7820HK version of this?
     
    zacwhite15, Jun 23, 2017
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    Undervolting should make a big difference.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 24, 2017
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  34. Aswang

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    Hmmm. I was planning on getting this for work because I need something powerful that I need to carry around a lot. It seems the temperatures might be a problem. My workflow involves running the cpu and gpu at full load for long periods of time. I would not be able to undervolt also at the moment since I use linux and so far there are no tools that I know of for doing so. I'm wondering if the 1070 max-q version which are now available for pre-order would do a better job with the temps. Or maybe the p650hs would be better suited despite the added weight and bulk of the unit and the adapter. Thoughts?
     
    Aswang, Jun 29, 2017
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    It would be more efficient per unit of performance. It will limit itself power wise before it gets serious.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 30, 2017
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  36. Arondel

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    What kind of GPU performance level do you require? What is the absolute minimum you can go with?
    Decision will be based on balancing raw GPU power, heat generation and chassis/cooling design. 1070MQ is less powerful than 1070 but also generates less heat. Now, can it generate sufficiently less heat as to be cooler in a thinner chassis than the 1070 in a thicker one? I'd wait for proper reviews with proper data to answer that.
     
    Arondel, Jun 30, 2017
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  37. Meaker@Sager

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    The chassis will be so important, you will have to take it on a case by case basis.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 30, 2017
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    LOL, nice.
     
    Wonkyfinger, Jun 30, 2017
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  39. Aswang

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    That's what I'm trying to decide since upgrading the gpu for instance from a 1050 ti to a 1060 means a difference of around 30% in processing time. The cpu is not as important though I do need quad core since in order to use gpu for processing one cpu core needs to be unused. Maybe underclocking the cpu would be a good solution?
     
    Aswang, Jul 1, 2017
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    Different resellers of Clevo models such as P950hp6 have different monitor panels, or they are all the same?
    I am looking for screen with best color representation, and contrast. Don't mind paying a little extra, but need the best screen money can buy.
    Thanks for any info in advance!
     
    Andrei B, Jul 1, 2017
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    There are 3 screen choices with the EVOC P950HP6. Full HD (1920x1080) IPS, 4K UHD (3840x2160) IPS, and Full HD (1920x1080) TN 120Hz~5ms.

    What are you going to use it to do that requires the best screen money can buy. Your uses will determine which screen is best for you.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jul 1, 2017
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  42. Arondel

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    Well, GPU power being so important to your task (and thinness to your wishes), I'd wait for a trustworthy review of the P950HR and see what temperatures are reported.

    If you can sacrifice a bit of performance, then the P950HP6 carries the GTX 1060. If you're not willing to reduce performance but are ok with giving a bit on the thinness side, the GTX 1070 on the P650HS-G will surely outperform the 1070 MQ (and could be underclocked to it's MQ counterpart to reduce heat even further, as @hmscott has widely suggested on more than one occasion).

    In case you want to see the temps and performance of the P950HP6, checkout HTWingNut's review.
     
    Arondel, Jul 1, 2017
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    So when it comes to 1080 IPS screen. All re-sellers of CLEVO laptops will have a same 1920x1080 IPS screens? Or some companies will place a Samsung panels, and other LG, or Sharp etc.?
    What are characteristics of a monitors that HIDevolution sells for this model?

    Thanks for your reply
     
    Andrei B, Jul 2, 2017
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    Clevo source panels can change over time.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 3, 2017
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    The 4K UHD (3840x2160) is Samsung LTN156FL02-101

    The 120Hz~5ms Full HD (1920x1080) is AUO B156HTN05.2

    The IPS Full HD (1920x1080) is LG 156WF6-SPB1

    You can Google for the spec sheets.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Jul 3, 2017
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    is it worth selling P650RS for this ?
    since mine also doesnt have g-sync.
     
    niverion, Jul 10, 2017
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    Ok thank you! I don't actually mind , the only downsize is that the video card is pumping 4K resolution while the display can't properly represent it. It is still much better than a FHD display. I was just asking so I can add the info to my database.
     
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