*** Official Clevo P950HP6/Sager NP8950 Owner's Lounge ***

Here is a review of the Eurocom Q5 / Clevo P957HR from Notebookcheck (except aesthetic, same as P950HR). Detailed thermals inside. Battery life seems to be above four hours while surfing the Web on WiFi. Fan setting can be reduced to 55% to achieve subjective "Max Q noise standard".

Hope it helps

 

Eurocom Q5 (Clevo P957HR, i7-7700HQ, GTX 1070 Max-Q) Laptop Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Euroc...HQ-GTX-1070-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.244590.0.html

 

Anyone with expertise in screen color calibration? I bought it for a 5 days ... and a screen seems a bit yellowish.

For color grading and color correction (Photoshop, Lightroom and Adobe Premiere Pro) is my new hell.

Any suggestion of site with information on how to calibrate these screens? Or some color profiles?

(I really liked him.)

 

You can either go in and tweak the windows profiles manually or get a colorimeter and have a more accurate solution.

 

Just looking at the thermal system design, it appears to be well designed. Unfortunately, it looks like the design is throwing most of the surface heat towards the WSAD keys. Above 50 celsius surface Temps is where I draw the line.

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If you are serious about colour grading and correction then you really need to purchase a calibration device like a Colormunki or Spider. That way you will have a calibration to your specific panel and in the operating lighting environment. Having it done in a different location is not going to cut it when you're doing serious or pro work. But then if you need that high accuracy for print work for example, opposed to online content, then you should use a high gamut monitor.

 

Note the key caps and palm rest that you will actually make contact with are much cooler.

 

Any longer term reviews on this? Seems like a better value than MSI GS63 stealth pro with the 1070MQ. I'm wondering how much of a difference a good repaste would help on the temps. Seems like with a separate CPU heatsink, undervolting wont help as much.

 

I'm also interested in long term reviews on this.

I was also wondering if there was any further update about the fan curve issue some users reported a couple of pages back?

 

Hi guys,
I'm the owner of P950HP6 from a month. For now my piece is in service for warranty repair, problem with screen, yes I'm sad but apart from this fact, I love this laptop. If someone ask me, would you buy this model again, I will definitely tell YES.
I agree fan curve is "not prefect", but after some options changes in Clevo COntrol Center, usage of this laptop become enjoyable (custom fan speed, turn on fan at 55 celsius degrees, turn off at 43 degrees and max fan speed at 80%), laptop is undervolted with throttlestop about -100mV.
I'm not hardcore player, playing 2-3 hours per week, is not too much I think. I'm using laptop for programming, some graphics preparation, sometimes video rendering.
Temps after around 1 hour of playing in Battlefield 1 (DX12, almost all setting ultra, turned on Whisper Mode in GeForce Experience): CPU: 82 degrees, GPU 80 degrees, I think thats is great for this thin construction (thermal paste is Gelid).
I can compare this laptop to Acer VN7-593G and ASUS GL502VM which I've tested before, and these laptops were hotter and louder than Clevo.
Compare to Acer, Clevo is cololer on chasing also, Clevo is warm but do not scald on the top of keyboard.
Overall build quality is great. Almost all body made from aluminum, except screen frame, build quality is great. I've got information from my local reseller that they should receive new BIOS version in next few days, so my laptop should back from repair with new version, maybe fun curve will be better.
Battery time, normal usage (internet, communicator, music playback) around 4 - 4,5 hours with Windows 10 battery saving mode on.
Screen quality is good, but calibration will improve colors. If you have any questions I will try to answer, and I hope that you understand everything, cause english is not my native language

 

I have tried changing to a custom fan profile to start at 65, and stop at 60 but these settings never seem to work. The fan will start at 50 regardless.

 

In my case custom fan controls works fine, checked with hwinfo opened.

 

Thanks for the detailed info!
Once you get your laptop back please let us know if your BIOS has been updated and if so, if there is any improvement on the fan curves.

I'm pretty much about to pull the trigger on this laptop but had been holding back just due to the lack of "longer" term feedback from ppl who purchased it.

 

I'll give you info about bios, right after I receive my laptop.I bought this laptop without huge faith, I thought, I have two weeks for testing, if there is something wrong, I will return like before tested Asus and Acer. But after 2-3 days of usage I loved p950 I also tested this year Clevo P650HP6-G but there was no spark between us Build quality was the main issue for me, in P950 Clevo did a good work with body quality comparing to P650. Also I feel much improved screen cabinet, it's not as flexible as it was in p650

 

OK my laptop came back from service with new screen and updated BIOS / EC.
Bios version: 1.05.07
EC version: 1.05.08
I can't see much difference, only what I noticed is no working fans after computer turn on, fan start working few minutes after log in to Windows, when some temp was reached. There was silent profile with fan auto mode enabled in Control Center.

 

Thanks for the info. I'm really torn about pulling the trigger on this laptop. Just noticed that PCSpecialist has the 1060 (non Max-q) version for less £200 which makes it quite a deal.
Not sure if it would be worth waiting to hear more news about CF or not :-/

 

Hq coffee lake should come at the start of 2018

 

You have to try, everyone have different requirements from laptop, I checked by myself that opinions of other users might be not so objective. I've tried 3 laptops before I bought p950. Each of these laptops has some failures from my point of view, but p950 for me have least failures comparing to others.

 

I'm looking to buy an additional adapter. Do you think this one will work with the NP8950?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-18...-charger-For-Asus-G750JW-G750JX-/262635691104

 

If those Asus models use the same 5.5x2.5 barrel type connector then yes.

 

Yes, I had one for my P651SE. But beware of the power consumption, if your system is drawing more than 180w from the wall this adaptor might give you problems.

EDIT: I tough the model was P650HS, and it's default 200W adaptor. Since the default adaptor for NP8950(P950HP6) is 150w, you should be fine.

Another alternative is the Razer power adaptor (the 165w seems better, so you can have headroom to OC).

 

Hi Guys!

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this! I'm quite new to the forums. I'm really hoping to pull the trigger on the P950hp6 and at this point I've think I've read every page Google can find that even mentions the laptop. However, I'm trying to make a choice between it and its slightly chubbier older brother, the P650 (the one with the 1060 and g-sync, I forget the code). I was wondering if anyone here had experience with both and could help out? I am very new to the whole clevo world and I'm particularly worried about heat. The P950 model I'm looking at costs around £50 more than the P650 and the only difference between the two specs-wise is that the P950 has a 120hz screen and 8gigs of ram compared with a 60hz screen, g-sync and 16 gigs of ram in the P650.

I'm just a little nervous that this smaller build will have some hidden weaknesses when compared with the P650 (perhaps a lower build quality, bad cooling, hopeless something or other). Is this true, or am I just being a little overly cautious. Experience with both would be a huge plus, but any information would be great.

Any help would be enormously appreciated! And if I've posted in the wrong place I'm sorry about that.

 

Hi, I've had P650RP6-G this year for 2 weeks, but I returned to store. I'm not gamer, sometimes I like to play something but I'm not doing this everyday. For me P950 cooling is enough, I wrote about this few posts ago in my short review. If you are gamer, better choice would be P650 I think. Why I returned P650? So, build quality at first, when I tried to open screen, plastic part above keyboard where hinges were installed, so this part got some bulge during opening, many peoples talk about this on forums, some users report some breaks on this plastic part. But this is propably problem with single pieces. P950 have alloy body, and it is really durable. Second thing which I can compare in favor of the P950 is screen lid stiffness. Other things are similar, but P950 looks amazing with this alloy body comparing to P650

 

Thanks for the speedy reply! I did read your earlier review (and thanks for that also by the way!) I'm more of an occasional gamer as well I think. You mentioned that the P950 build is brilliant, but I'm curious, what do you think makes the P650 better for gamers? Is it just the cooling or is it the price?

Thanks!

 

Cooling will be better in P650, laptop is thicker, so fans and radiators are thicker too, larger area better efficiency. But back to P950, 80-82 celsius degrees after almost 1 hour of playing Battlefield 1 on very high details is good result for '20milimeters' laptop (I didn't check temps without undervolting, my temps are with -100mV and Nvidia whisper mode enabled, please remember about this)

 

Ah, Thanks! That's super helpful to know. Does whisper mode usually decrease heat? That's not bad. I don't suppose you can estimate how much cooler you think the p650 would be. Are we talking 10 degrees or more like 1 or 2 (please excuse my ignorance here)?

I suppose lastly could I ask. Are you still loving your P950?

 

We are talking about 10 degrees I think
Whisper mode is keeping framerate between 40 -60 fps to reduce heating, for me 'sunday gamer' game is still smooth.
Yes I still love my P950 I would buy it again

 

Thanks so much! You've been so kind!

 

Did you get your laptop repasted?

 

Yes, with Gelid GC-Extreme

 

Honestly I'd be more worried about case temps. I never keep a laptop on my legs, but up to 56°C on top and 61°C on the bottom (according notebookcheck) kinda sucks.

 

I worried about this too, unfortunatelu I don't have Laser Termometer and I can't check real temps. I can compare temps to others notebooks which I tested this uear, and P950 is much cooler than Acer VN7-593G Black Edition (tI'm talking about body part where CPU and GPU are, upper side of keyboard and over keybard)

 

Well the VN7-593G is one of worst laptops recently made temp-wise. Not even UV and repaste do much in that case.

 

I only share my experiences with you. I repeat, if you do not check it yourself you will not be convinced. People's opinions are subjective.

 

I agree

 

While doing what you normally do on your lap (browsing the web, watching videos etc) it wont get hot the outside. When playing demanding games I would put any notebook on a flat surface.

 

During normal usage, like you wrote: internet, videos, laptops body stays cool in my case.

 

That has to be the aim with these sorts of devices, with the need for vents and dissipating the heat they are going to get warm under heavy load.

 

How is the fan issue? They tend to make quite a big deal out of it on notebookcheck.net.
How is the sound quality?
Wi-fi connection ok?

It just went on sale on l aptopparts4less. 1299 incl taxes for a 1060 gtx, 8gb ram, 500 HDD.
Is it worth it to pay 50e extra to upgrade the IPS panel to a TN 120Hz 5ms panel? I'm a casual gamer

 

Hi, from my experience...
There is no fan issue, fans are noisy, this laptop is so thin, then fans have to work with more RPMs, but after last bios update I think is a bit better, also if you do some undervolting and properly adjust custom fan profile in Control Center, laptop CPU fan most of the time is turned off.
Sound quality on headphones is fine, do not expect great sound quality on internal speakers.
I have killer wlan card and wifi is stable and fast.
If you are casual gamer like me, I don't think that you need 120hz panel, I have standard 60hz IPS and in my opinion this panel is really nice. You should invest these 50e in additional SSD drive, which will be much faster than HDD

 

I'm trying to save some money so that 50e will probably go to an SSD and maybe 8gb extra ram... I'm doubting if i should also pay 40e extra for killer WLAN. The main issue is that adding all that extra stuff, easily gets the laptop to 1,5k Kinda need to make some trade-offs

I'm used to some fan noise of my macbook pro, since it's 4 years old and gets under a lot of stress when playing Civ5 for example.

I like thin laptops and this one doesn't look like a laptop for a rich 12 y/o. No red and no agressive design makes it look A LOT better.

 

No, stick with Intel 8265 AC or N.

Clean it, it needs new thermal compound and a fan dust removal

 

Opening a Mac, always fun

 

The review on Notebookcheck specifically says the fans do not turn off at any moment during the notebook's operation. Is your experience actually different? Maybe there was a BIOS update that solved this? Can you set your fan speed below 50%?

(All emphasis mine)

 

Depends on the model Some are quite easy to service, others are terrible.

 

2013 retina MBP it's pretty compact. Cleaning the dust would be no issue. However, never in my life applied thermal compound... I've seen a video yesterday, I might do that in the near future
I'd also would want to replace one of the speakers because it creacks when sound goes high (think the music between sences in Planet Earth). It sounds like **** so one of them needs replacing too.

 

15" or 13"

iFixit got you covered

 

Has anyone that owned this laptop used it with linux? The only problem is Optimus compatibility with linux. I would have bought the P650 with which you can switch discrete graphics on and off, but the P950 is lighter and smaller so I'd rather get this one if there is a way to switch.

 

The P650 series all can switch to discrete mode, it's standard in the BIOS.

 

My bad, let me edit that.