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It could be a part on either the motherboard or drives etc that's expanding as it gets warm and causing a short.

Does it do it on battery and AC?

 

Thinking of buying a used one from ebay. This can handle Overwatch, yeah?

 

Get the one with a GTX 960M (W230S D).

 

The only W230SD in ebay is listed for $1.9k while the W230SS is listed at a way lower price.

 

guys i think my cooling fan is dying, the temps reach 98C after few minutes of playing, and i'm keeping the laptop without bottom cover on a cooling pad as well. Any idea where can i get a replacement in Australia?

 

Check Metabox.

The cooling on this notebook in general, sucks.

 

Yeah I know, I've found a fan replacement on line, hope that will help. It sounds like my current fan can't spin at max speed any more, at least I remember it louder before.

 

I've been lurking this forum for awhile and using it to help as I work on my laptop. However, recently with a Windows update I have run into a problem that I can't fix.

Usually I can push [Fn] + [Esc] to run the Hotkey Control Center, but with the update I can no longer do that. Also, when I run the ControlCenter.exe in my Hotkey folder it boots, but freezes if I try to change my system settings from Quiet to Performance or any other setting.

This has happened before with previous Windows 10 Updates. But previously I have run System Restore and it has fixed the issue. Unfortunately this time Windows updated itself twice and I can no longer go back before the update that caused this issue.

Is there some way I can fix this? Or Is there a way to get rid of HkeyTray or the Control Center that would still allow my fan to not constantly run?

 

Have you tried re-installing it after doing the update? Some updates play with some settings that may be set by the program on install.

 

*UPDATE 2 QUESTION* Now that I got this to work. Is there a newer version of Hotkey I should be running? My fan seems to be running all the time again.

*UPDATE 1 FIXED* After running through all of this I manually deleted files in the Hotkey Folder then reinstalled Hotkey 2.34.48 and upon restart it worked. Thanks for the help!

Yes. When I tried to uninstall the Hotkey 2.34.48 application I received an error "Hotkey 2.34.48 - InstallShield Wizard" "error-5005 : 80070002) has occurred... make sure you have finished previous setup and closed other applications."

After closing everything and removing any running programs and making sure no hotkey program was running and trying to install over previous installation I received the error "Hotkey 2.34.48 - InstallShield Wizard" "Errorr!!"


I got the driver from the Clevo website here:
http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/e-services/download/ftpOut.asp?Lmodel=W230SS&ltype=9&submit=+GO+

The driver information is:
Hotkey AP (2.34.49) for Windows 8.1 64-bit version. Hotkey.zip 2014/9/2

Another note is that when I run control center from the folder location, without the Fn Esc hotkey shortcut, is that I can change the fan, power and other settings. But if I switch to a different profile, like from Quiet to Entertainment, then it freezes.

 

Have you tried the W230SD version for win 10? Make sure it installs with administrator rights.
http://www.sagernotebook.com/drivers.php?cat=613

 

That's too bad. I've got an w230SD I'll be selling soon. But I'm in the U.K. If it wasn't for the fact that it runs the games I've got already right now well enough. Some on max. I would of sold it already.
Everything is sooo expensive right now that I'm not actually rushing to sell.


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I'm not ready to declare victory quite yet but I think I localized my problem to the battery. To review, the issue is that my computer will randomly restart in the middle of doing anything after 20 mins to 3 hours of use. So far (5 hours) running it off just AC it hasn't restarted. Does it seem more likely that the problem is the battery (fixable with new battery) or something in the internal power system that connects the battery to the motherboard?

 

Things in the UK wont be getting cheaper with the pound the way it is at the moment.

 

That could be true. But pricing is doing ok right now. It's just pascal laptops have gone more expensive vs maxwell laptops


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Well the outgoing models often can be cheaper. Do remember though the 1060 is the replacement for the 970m and the 1070 replaces the 980M.

 

I guess so. But even still I'd say it's a little bit more pricier though on some refreshes that has a 1060.

Anyway before desktop gpu in laptops. I've always wondered this,Why isn't the trend number for number? For example. Wasn't it ever 780 replaced by 880m. And that by 980m? Because from that logic an 870m should be replaced by a 960m. But it's not it replaces 860m? Doesn't it?wouldnt that way be better to measure performance from generation to next because then the boost in increase is not as large as if they did that?




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Before desktop GPUs it was 680m - > 780m - > 880m - > 980M.

 

That's what I thought. Everything replaced everything gen for gen. then the 980 came along and everything has gone offset.


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A bit like the titan on desktops.

 

Thanks I will try that out!

 

Mine failed in the exact same way (same two screws on that side) plus all three on the other side. I just (as in 17 Oct, 2016) fixed it with two inserts I made on my 3D printer, salvaged the screws and epoxied the inserts (after I put the brass things into the insert). I used G-Flex epoxy from West Systems (a flexible epoxy used for marine products). I roughed up both bonding surfaces with some sand paper and gave them a thorough cleaning with rubbing alcohol before bonding. It is vital to have a rough and above all clean surface for epoxy to bond to. I clamped it overnight and it's held for a couple of days so far.

I made the insert a little too tall so the bezel doesn't sit flush on the bottom any more. The electronics are still going strong however. it's been my daily driver for 2 1/2 years the paint is coming off, two corners are cracked a third is lifting from the chassis and the SD card reader has failed from overuse.

I'm starting to save for a new sager, maybe an 8152, too bad Clevo discontinued the 13" models I love the form factor I can use it almost anywhere and it gets looks when I'm doing some CAD rendering or playing games.

I'd be willing to put the guts into a new case if I could find one but some of the stuff in the lid looks like it's been plastic welded in and I'm not totally sure if the grounding issues I've had with the screen would get worse.

 

Someone help me out. Is there ANY reason why the laptop has EXTREMELY low volume output even on max volume? Using win 10 and the audio drivers for 10 come up as windows 8.1. (Windows auto updates it to that and I've manually downloaded from the site, same thing). And upon start up tells me it's not 64bit version or something like that.
What gives? Never really bothered about it cos I would just play external screen with audio as normal. But last night going through some videos in YouTube and some just could not hear anything. But when the volume is good at its best. It's like 50% loudness as other laptops.
I need to sell this soon and need to know if this is normal in case I get asked or told it's a fault when it's not.

Thanks


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The W230 line has crap speakers that are aimed towards the bottom of the case. They are very anaemic, any kind of background noise and you can barely hear the laptop. If I was Onkyo I wouldn't want my name anywhere near the laptop. but it's the only badging that can't be removed as it is silkscreened on.

 

You do need to ensure if running 64bit windows you are downloading the 64bit drivers.

 

Definitely did. Downloaded it twice to make sure and even on windows update it came up saying make sure 64bit version is installed. What you suggest? I am using the w230SD and used those drivers. Worth using SS drivers or exact same you think


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@Prema - I believe you're the only person who can help.

My notebook fails to store BIOS settings whenever I unplug it from the AC adapter and shut it down from the battery. What's wrong? There was one incident yesterday evening when I was running Witcher 3, and my notebook suddenly froze, and there was a super-loud buzzing sound coming from my earpieces. I had to force-shutdown, and my XTU profile had disappeared... I want to fix this, what's wrong?

 

BIOS issue sounds like a dead CMOS battery, It's a 2032 and is easily accessible by taking off the back cover, it is near the exhaust fan near the bottom edge of the laptop on the right hand side (seen from underneath)

 

You can also check it's seated properly. If you have a multimeter you can measure the voltage and see if it's good.

 

Is there any word on whether or not Clevo will bring back the 13.3" form factor? I love the size of these computers

 

We have no idea. Their last 13.3" model, the W230SD, is now extremely outdated. The 14" model, the P640RE/RF, is going the same way soon. Consider the Alienware 13, literally just released, or the GS43VR.

 

Hello guys - quick question - new to this laptop.

Running i7-4710MQ - when I unplug the mains - it goes down to 1.48Ghz (throttled). Had a W740SU before so familiar to cpu down-clocking on battery. Though, Is there a way around this? (I installed something earlier - and it went upto the proper frequency on battery - though I can't remember what it was / be it an update / driver - reinstalled Win10 and it's now back to 1.48Ghz max on battery.).

Thanks.

 

You would need a modified BIOS to get around this protection.

 

Very hard to come by laptop for price. Besides the w230ss look out for the w230sd which is everything the same except it has 960m graphics. Failing that try looking out for the p640 models. Bit more but definitely better machine completely.


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There's scores, search this thread for 'hinge' or see thread #1, thread #2 and thread #3 (the W230SS, ST and SD all have the same hinge design).

Fixed mine with the nuts+bolts method. Used six of these M4x6mm flanged bolts on the inside of the bezel and six nuts on the outside. This way they fit within the space of the lid, without the bezel bulging outwards and didn't require cropping the bolts, unlike the earlier 10mm hex bolts I'd used.

Intend to hang on to this thing for a while; dropped in a 4930MX (have a 12V fan and 120W adapter) and will swap in a 13-14" OLED panel once they're obtainable and affordable(-ish). That should keep it current for a few years, skipping over the current gens at least, until something comes along that would be a real upgrade.

 

What does it look like when you remove the bezel?

Place something sturdy behind the laptop and open the lid, letting it rest against the heavy object. The bezel simply unclips from the display lid, no screws anywhere. Looking at your picture it does seem to be the 'normal', run-of-the-mill hinge issue, at least.

 

If anyone is looking for one of these machines, I have one for sale here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fs-sager-np7338-clevo-w230ss.800494/

 

I think it won't be long before the last three W230Sx users in this forum are @Stooj, @t456 and myself...

 

Yup, just sold mine. Great little machine.

 

Cough

 

So that's 4... plus the person who purchased mine.. that's 5.

 

Still have mine!

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Was yours on eBay uk? Coincidentally one ended around the same time you claim. I considered a bid. But it's for my brother and he already had a laptop with 860m in it. But I sold my w230sd at the end of October and kinda miss it.


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Nope, sold it right here on the NBR marketplace.

Just looked at tracking - it was delivered this morning.

 

Well ... it's still running nicely *.

The 4930MX is good enough for me ** and so is 1GB/s read+write ( RAID in a 13.3" !!!). Only thing left is swapping RAM to 2x16GB and adding the oled panel. All that being done there's not very much appeal in any of the newer, compact systems. Only thing would be a better gpu, but don't game on this thing anyway, only some 3D/CAD stuff. When there's a ~14"-ish with socketed cpu and gpu (we can wish!) then it'd be time to consider moving to a new model.

Spoiler: *) digressing ...

So is my Latitude D800 from 2004. There's a reason for keeping that thing, too; it might very well hold the world record in (laptop) screen overclocking (@185Hz).

Hmm ... some people are very sensitive to eye-strain and that lcd is an absolutely perfect remedy for that. It's a high-refresh ccfl, very uniform, has a good gamut, 16:10 aspect ratio and there's the overlocking, too. Display a static image and you'd hardly notice it was on, very much like an e-reader. Buy the panel plus an adapter and you can build your own, strain-free monitor for ~$75 and make it a gift for the friend or family member for whom it'd be just the thing.

Spoiler: **) more on-topic

Really, this is pretty sad: 57W 3.5y old vs. 91W today.

 

Ah. Shame. Bout this thread is it was largely popular but fizzled fast promptly. The newer model was literally non existent for a thread. Would have to come here to relate to anything. But even then warranty covered my issues.


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I still havent found a laptop to replace it with. Id love the same form factor with a 1060. There doesnt seem to be much demand for it.

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Oh, snap. How could I forget the Zen Master?

But then you've got your P870DM3, @Prema...

 

This model won't be back unless it had a redesign I think. They moved on to the p640 instead with a 1050 ti.
That's the best clevo has for now in a small form factor.


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The W230SS is a 2013 design, along with the W350SS, W370SS, etc. They've all been outmoded by the P6xx, N8xx and W6xx series.

It's really a pity that the 1060 wasn't fitted in the P640... Would've been a nice budget competitor to the glitzy GS43VR, AW13 or Aorus X3 v7.