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like the other poster above said refresh rate has nothing to do with fps. all ips screen (unless overclocked) are at max 60hz.

this laptop only has vga and hdmi out. hdmi cannot handle > 75hz on 19*10.

its kind of lame that this laptop doesnt have a dvi port since im very used to 120hz and moving to 60hz has been pretty hard to adjust.

 

VGA should be able to do 120hz yes ?

 

It says Throttlestop has expired.

Anyone have a link to the new one?

 

vga cannot do 120hz. vga is analog and has worse image quality. i dont know why ppl still bother with that useless port. shouldve put a dvi instead of vga.

 

Because there are many monitors still using it, not to mention video-projectors.
And because there is not much difference with digital outputs regarding quality.
I suppose display port should be the way to go from now on...

I remember doing 120hz on VGA, so it definitely can do it. It was not on full-hd though.

 

vga doesnt have enough bandwidth to do 120hz on 1080p.

for portable gaming laptops you should atleast have a dvi because that is what 99% of gamers/gaming monitors use. if it had a display ports you can spend 100 dollars and get a dual link dvi converter, too bad this laptop has doesnt. had to sell my beautiful 120hz pls monitor for a 60hz pls, such a huge different when it comes to playing games like csgo and borderlands 2. but i play dota2 mostly and 60hz isnt too awful for that.

 

Except the Alienwares I don't know of any gaming laptops that include DisplayPort. In fact majority of the ultrabooks don't have DisplayPort. I'm sure there is a reason for that, may be licensing issues?

 

^ Or it's just more expensive..

From what I can see on ebay it's more like 5$ !

 

ive used cheap cables in the past and they are not the way to go. the dual link cables on ebay doesnt even look like real dual link cables, they are like 2x thinner. and im not even sure if the good 100dollar adaptor will work well with 120hz monitors.

 

? Why would you want to use an adaptor in the first place? Most (semi)pro screens come with DisplayPort. It's all hypothetical anyway.

 

Hi guys,

Sorry for the vague questions. . . .

I'm considering buying this machine over the P35K which keeps getting pushed back (now to the 8/11).

Have any deal breaker problems arisen since your time of ownership?

How is throttling with a 4700 / 765m? - or do you recommend getting a 4702?

Any RAID (mSATA) issues?

Has the sound crackling been resolved?

What is the IPS panel like? Is it as good as it should be?

Thanks for your help

Jason

 

Holy Cow! This machine handles BF4 beta quite well. high/ultra (auto setting) runs 30-40fps and feels smooth as butter. But the problem is even with undervolt the CPU gets a toasty 90-95C during this game. This game is a CPU killer... I hope the final game is more refined. Although limited FPS should help reduce those temps quite a bit.

 

WOW Really HT, damn then why was i getting 15-20 fps on beta earlier, is your gpu overclocked?

...and that was on low/med settings?

 

Nope. Let me do a video...

If things get pretty intense then it can drop to 20's.

Did you download and install the latest nvidia beta drivers made for BF4?

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...lay-driver-feedback-thread-released-9-30-13-/

 

I've been getting the same FPS as HT today. Are you using the latest beta Nvidia driver? That might be it.

 

the overclockable ips/pls screens are only dvi. the bad 120hz mainstream tn panels probably have displayport (which this laptop doesnt have)

 

Ooops nope didnt know about the drivers, thanks HT i will give it a shot now an report back

 

Oooops double post...

 

Here you go:

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Thanks HT, that worked a charm with the fps, but the game is very choppy at the moment, sometimes cant get my primary weapon even the pistol wont fire with a invisible arm lol, is it just me or does it happen to others too, i was well chuffed about the BF4 beta but this is disheartening at times

 

Noticed the fan makes some rattling noise on low speeds, which is quiet annoying if it's completely silent in the room.

 

It's a known issue. Ask for fan replacement if it really bugs you.

 

Or unscrew its case a bit, might fix it

 

Hmmm, I don't have it though. Or I don't think I have it
What kind of sound does the fan rattling make?

 

You'll only hear it when it is really silent. Sounds like an old HDD searching for a file (sort of). At least that is the case with mine, I guess I can try loosen the screws a bit and see if that helps.

 

I am still looking to update my BIOS/EC. Mysn.de is going to upload a custom version of the EC 04 with a nicer fan table (so they say).
However they are giving a warning notice. If you are having an early W230ST it might not boot up for a few hours, because a sensor measures way too high temps. After a few hours this problem disapperars.

Wow, that sounds really like I want to try it. :/ Any of you encountered such a phenomenon with Clevos 05/05?

 

I have an XMG P303 and updated to the 05 stock bios that's on premamods - haven't seen a problem with it not booting.

Fan isn't bursting as much as before but would still prefer to either use the proper xmg one or premas custom bios when they are released.

 

Hi folks,

Gonna get this bad boy to replace my 11 incher. Just wondering, is it worth it to get the 4800 or 4700 cpu? I am only going to use it for gaming and office work. No other CPU intensive processes. The rest will be similar to what most have here, 8gb, SSD, 7260 wifi etc. Thanks

 

You wont see alot of performance increase with the better CPU, but since you're already upgrading to a SSD and better wifi theres not much else to upgrade in it. If you have room left in your budget go for the better CPU.

 

I would rather say go spend that money elsewhere, it would be better spent

 

I really don't hear it on mine, though.
Either that, or I can't hear it even with my ear 5cm from the touchpad and the fan exhaust. No audio is playing.

 

they don't all have this issue

 

Yep, go for i7-4700MQ. Unless you need the CPU for encoding, compiling, or anything non GPU related so it doesn't affect overall TDP of the system.

 

I think the overclock/undervolted 4700MQ is a great chip for this machine.

 

I ran into this as well. Googling didn' work

 

Just use Intel XTU... otherwise I will check with unclewebb and see if he has the latest available without expiration.

 

Spot the Clevo

 

Hello Spot!

 

Dang, I was playing BF4 today and must've forgotten to reapply my changes from XTU after flashing the BIOS because it was at stock clocks and voltages and got up to 99 degrees! The GPU was at a more reasonable max of 71 degrees, which seems fine to me, but I have lowered the multipliers to 28X for 4 cores and stepping up 2X for every fewer core with a -100 mV undervolt on the CPU and the cache. I'll try playing and let you guys know if the numbers are less... scary.

 

To anyone looking for a good cooling pad this is my solution!



Temps turn out pretty good. This is with -60 mV on Dynamic CPU Voltage as I can't seem to get it stable when underclocking more (sad face) and with Core 3 and 4 on 32x. This is the i7-4900MQ. The temps are only this low when I have the fan on full burst, which is what I have while gaming but when doing normal work it tends to stay around 55-65c.

 

are you guys not using laptop coolers. i overclock to max when gaming and dont undervolt borderlands 2 only gets my cpu temp to 77 after 3 hours straight

 

What cooler are you using? Quiet a few here have been having issues with coolers that burst air into the laptop as the air has nowhere to go. What CPU are you on? Is Borderlands 2 CPU intensive like Battlefield?

 

Temps went up to 98 in BF4 while throttling to 2.8 GHz for four cores and undervolting by 85 mV. This is sitting on a mesh cooler but without the cooling fan on since it doesn't seem to do much (just blows air into the bottom of the laptop). I'll try experimenting with lower quad core clocks and using the cooler fan. I'd rather not get above 95 degrees... that's some scary heat.

 

How about locking FPS? Does that help? How long does it take before it hits 98?

The public beta opens tomorrow if I recall correctly.. Looking forward to giving it a shot as well.

 

Your core#3 looks really stable though.

 

BF4 beta hammers the CPU. Even desktkop CPU's get in the 80C+ range.

Cooling pad does not help at all. Otherwise any other game, BF3 included, it's < 85C, usually less than 80C. I have tried limiting the FPS in BF4 but it ends up with erratic behavior. Even vsync doesn't seem to work properly either. It's just beta though, and a new game. Final game shouldn't (I hope) be like this.

 

I'm also hoping that the gold release is much better with CPU utilization. Other than the heat and not being able to use RTSS for FPS, temps, etc (doesn't support 64-bit games yet) BF4 runs great on my laptop. I'm glad that they chose a good map this time! For the BF3 beta it was only Metro and I remember that turned into an absolute meatgrinder with all of it's chokepoints. Well, that and the falling through the ground that happened all the time! So far so good with BF4.

 

So far, I haven't the need for a laptop cooler running:
SC2 on ultra (only tried SP and 2v2 MP so far though)
Deus Ex Human Revolution on Max
Tom Clancy Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
TF2
Medieval II and Empire Total War

I've been catching up on games I bought on Steam but havent had the time to play since I didn't have a powerful laptop before

 

Played another round of BF4 today after underclocking to (well I guess it's not really underclocking if you're going to the stock clocks...) 2.4 GHz on 4 cores and going up 0.4 GHz for every fewer core. Also undervolting 85 mV and using my Coolermaster x-slim cooling pad. Temps look a lot better now and I was always getting 30-40 FPS! This is without repasting. I repasted my laptop before I RMA'd it but haven't repasted the new one since I don't have the supplies now.

 

Frewster/HT has BF4 beta crashed on you because i am getting regular crashes, saying that i am getting regular crashes in Arma 3 also, sometimes my W230 will restart mid game an some times it is crashing the game saying BF4/Arma3 has stopped working windows is trying to find a fix, why is that?

...my temps don't exceed 85c cpu and 70c gpu