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I have flashed my GTX 765m with the modified Prema bios but for some reason I cant overclock the vram more than 390 as 3d mark 11 crashes. However I can overclock the core past 135. How is it possible to overclock vram to 560 or so....?

 

You are hitting the limits of the chips themselves, short of a custom wired voltage mod that's as high as they will go. Every chip is different and will reach different clocks.

 

By how much I can overvolt the core without frying out the chip? What are the recommended settings to be on the safe side?

 

Over volting the core won't help the vram. Every machine is different and over clocking increases risk of failure. Safest way is to leave at stock. If you don't want to do that then you have to deal with the risk. Some can run at max ov while others will fail early. No way to know for certain. Temps are a good indication but ov can be even more harmful without realizing it.

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So I guess vRAM limit is based on the manufacturing of the individual chip? Considering that it's a production line, you would think they have approximately the same limit. I didn't get +560 vRAM out of the blue, a guy on Tech Inferno forums runs his at the same OC as I do. So is it just luck of the draw then and not based on any BIOS, drivers, etc? Mine is unstable a little bit past that limit as well.

Does anyone know why our voltage increments are different? Is there a known negative effect from overvolting besides higher power consumption?

Oh by the way, HTWingnut, there was a question earlier in the thread about 1866 RAM. Are timings somehow tied to the CPU you get? Is there a limit on 4700MQ?

 

drivers (and maybe bios) can play a role, but the main limiting factor is the chip itself.

 

It comes down to all the little distances in production and purities of the materials. If you could add vram voltage it would help but that can be a tricky hardware mod. The controller wont be programmable.

 

Ok guys I have just figured it out, it's not my CPU that's the problem, I think it's my GPU if it hits over 80c in BF4 the thermal alarm kicks in, strange I figured, but 80c is fine for the GPU right, I don't understand why it happens.... Any thoughts


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80C is a bit hot, do you game on a flat service? Are any of the vents blocked?

I would do a repaste, if you don't have the tools all you need is this: Diamond "7 Carat" Thermal Compound - 1.5 Grams or Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound 3.5 Grams, Isopropyl Alcohol, 99%, Pint, 16 OZ, small Philips screwdriver and some cotton swabs. Taking of the heatsink is really simple, the screws are even labeled. You might as well repaste CPU while you are at it.

 

I play with a Amazon.com: Targus Lap Chill Mat AWE55US (Black/Gray): Electronics laptop stand with holes on it for the airflow,

yeah that's what i figured, probably will need a repaste, i have the paste just need something to clean the old paste off.

 

Ha, I just bought that cooler for my better half 2 weeks ago. I don't think it's a really good match for W230ST to be honest because of the fans placement, and that they can't be moved. However that thing is so damn comfortable on the lap and is certainly better than nothing.

Then all you need is some pure alcohol (pads or a small bottle will work) and cotton swabs + screwdriver.

 

hmm i dont have anything pure alcohol in the house but i do have some white spirit paint thinner, doesn't this work the same way as pure alcohol i do remember reading somewhere???

 

It should work since it is Acetone based. Alternatively you could leave the house and get some alcohol at a pharmacy

 

This is quite weird.. earlier I thought id treat myself and play a bit of Oblivion for old times sake.. maxed out at 1080p I thought id get better fps, it was 60-70 average. My old W110ER would get literally hundreds of fps, obviously at 720p but still.

 

lol funny you say that, i have been an asked at my local pharmacy's an what do you know they don't have Isopropyl Alcohol strange i know, when you need something its not available , as a last resort i turned to white spirit, i could wait till morning an go to boots pharmacy maybe, but if white spirit does the job why bother right???

 

Hey guys, recently my screen on this laptop randomly buggered up. I applied for a warranty ticket through Horize in Australia and they sent me back this message.

"The best way to go about this being you are overseas now would be to try and see if you can fix the problem by adjusting the LVDS cable that goes in the back of the LCD. Would you be comfortable doing this?"

I am not currently in Australia so I can't send it in for service.

Does anyone know how hard it is, or could explain how to muck around with the LVDS cables??

Thanks a lot, Dylan.

 

You would need to remove the bezel by removing the screw behind the rubber stand offs and unclipping the plastic. You would then remove the six screws securing the panel to the hinge brackets and that would reveal the cable for inspection/re-seating. It follows the same method as most notebooks so generic led panel based guides would apply.

 

Be carefull with white spirit / aceton, it likes to eat plastic...

 

Is the sounder blaster application working for anyone in Windows 8.1? It keeps telling me "There is no supported audio device available" I've tried all the VIA drivers I can find?
My reason for this is to try and stop the hissing / interference through the headphone jack...

 

Also is it possible to under volt my CPU via Parma's Bios

 

has anyone tried the new stock bios, thinking of switching from premas to this as my laptop runs hot.

 

Is there any other 13 inch laptop that competes with this?
I change my mind I don't want a NP7330 model.

 

None, you would need to move up to 14/15 inch notebooks.

 

Most of us use XTU software, you only have to set it once and you will be good. Unless of course you experience a crash, then XTU will reset for safety reasons.

 

Has xtu been fixed so it works when the laptop is resumed from sleep?

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yes, ages ago

 

Anyone ever have an issue where the software GTX 765m overclock keeps reverting back to stock values?

 

MSI Afterburner resets after reboot, I think it has a setting to overclock on startup, but I didn't care to use it. Other than that the overclock stays on as far as I know. Nvidia Inspector was acting a bit weird, and I stopped using it.

 

Glad to hear you got it working over Hdmi, i checked out the cable you linked , it doesn't list what Hdmi spec it supports. Which I find odd, though I do like the fact that they are looking into making smaller cables.

 

Just download latest version of xtu?

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i have been having that problem from day 1 , so just cant be bothered to set every time i wanna game or switch on...

Ohh an i figured out what was causing that thermal alarm in bf4, it is a GPU temp gadget it was set to alert me when temps hit 80c so i have increased it to 90c, funny since i did that GPU temps have not gone above 75c very strange

 

Yes. That'll fix it.

 

I always get it in Nvidia Inspector, it's a pain.

 

Yes. Nvidia Inspector seemed buggy unless I constantly kept it open. MSI Afterburner works fine for me though.

 

I think there are some negative effects. Too much voltage puts stress on chip and wiring and is likely to wear them out faster. Also higher heat lead to errors and that heating and cooling cycles expand and shrink the chip physically and weakens it.

EDIT: Also for the RAM I dont think the machine will benefit much from 1600 to 1866 mhz anyway

 

I have a question though. Does overclocking the GPU without messing with the voltage causes heat issues and wears out the chips? I believe as long as you don't over volt then your are on the safe side. The only issue is instability when running at higher clock speeds, isn't ?

 

The stock BIOS only allows us to alter the voltage offset of the CPU and Cache.
The Mod BIOS adds additional voltage options to Intel XTU which allow you to alter the CPU & Cache base voltage, too.

The Mod doesn't force things on the system, all things (except RAM in certain scenarios) run stock unless You decide to change settings, it just gives you a choice.
So unless we decide to use it's potential and change values ourselves, the Mod acts just like Stock (except from every component being up-to-date).

Everything below 90c is considered fine for these chips, doesn't really matter if you overclock or overvolt as long as you keep an eye on the temps.
Also every modern NVIDIA GPU will simply down-clock the chip once 97c are reached, I didn't change that in my Mod.
Same goes for the CPU, once thermal save values are reached it will automatically down-clock.

The problem is more the CPU than the GPU as they share the same heatsink.
For gamer really any model higher than 4700 is causing too much heat and thus reducing GPU efficiency.
So CPU undervolt and with certain models maybe even underclock may help overall gaming performance...

The weakest part on this system will be the 120W stock PSU as it simply shuts the whole system down once it's limit is reached
With an under-volted 4702 (lowest power quad) and GPU overvolt I am not even able to test my GPUs OC limits as the PSU just gives up.
Without the additional heat from the CPU these 765M go beyond an additional 350Mhz on core without even breaching 80c, so I wouldn't worry about wear and tear too much as all the above factors won't even let us go into dangerous territory.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7231452

The RAM speed is the vRAM speed of the Intel GPU, so it makes a huge difference in a low power consumption mobile power use scenario...

 

Hi Guys! I've just got my Clevo w230st from Polish company Blue Mobility, however I have a huge problem with my Sound Blaster Cinema Software.
When I try to open the software it pops the "The current selected audio device is disabled, not present bla bla...Do you want to select another device now?"

and then when i go with YES, another one - "There is no supported audio device available."

I've tried to find the solution here, however after reading about 100 threads I gave up.

Can someone please help?

Thank you all in advance.

 

Interesting.. if we limit the TDP on the CPU does that give the GPU more breathing room potentially?
Last night I set my CPU voltage offset -.9v, but overclocking the gpu by just 50mhz still ended up in a random reboot about 20 minutes laters.

Have you had much more success?

 

I too would like to know the answer to this? I know it was working before.. but I'm not sure if it was after I upgraded to win 8.1 it broke or a more recent driver update.

 

It gives us thermal headroom to keep it from throttling and to overclock and overvolt the card. As my bench shows even a 4702 isn't limiting the GPU at 350Mhz, so for gaming higher CPU clocks ain't needed.
You will need to raise the voltage (NVIDIA Inspector) to reach clocks of 350Mhz+

You can find Win 8.1 driver here:

http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/e-services/Download.asp

 

Nice find.. wanna share your settings

I tried these with no success :'(

 

Hi guys,
bought this morning this wonderful notebook!
Can't wait to have my hands on it!
My personal configuration: i7-4700MQ - 1x8GB DDR3 1600 - 1TB 2.5" - Intel 7260
Will upgrade when arrives with an mSata SSD (maybe the Samsung EVO mSata that have been announced recently) + another 8GB DDR3.

 

Check out https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0An1ksLSUsclxdDU1NE8zR3dkMG8yRUs1Ykh6N19aVlE#gid=0

If you want to keep the same GPU, then pretty much only other <14" options are the P34g, Razer, Alienware and MSI GE40.

 

You need the latest Mod or stock BIOS/EC to use the Win 8.1 driver without glitches...my settings yeah good question...hmm CPU and Cache each -100mv, OCed 2 extra multis on each core, GPU 350Mhz+, vRAM 550Mhz+, extra voltage slider 2/3 up, RAM at 2133Mz... the run was also cool at 80c.

 

Yeah.. using v1.1 of your bios... Not sure what's up with it. I get the feeling I need to do a fresh install of Win 8.1. I continually get errors from windows when in game "low memory" - even though im only using 35% of my 16gb.

Hmm wouldn't increasing the the multis on each core pull more power, leaving you less for GPU over clock?
Also I have 2 x 8gb dimms in this laptop. I imagine that also requires more power.

 

RAM doesn't really draw much power, it also doesn't share the heatsink so I would't worry about it.
The CPU is 35W and undervolted on top so the extra 2 multis have a minor impact on heat, but in general you are right.

 

Prema if you have any spare time, could you run some benchmarks with those settings? Ideally in-game ones like Bioshock Infinite, Shogun 2 etc, but 3dMark will be good too. I'm hesitant about increasing the voltage and would like to see where it can get me.

 

I posted the 3DM11 benchmark a page back! My net is too slow atm to download the other ones in a reasonable time...

Here it is again, nothing optimized, just a small bench:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4702MQ,Notebook W230ST

 

Hey guys, I just got the w230st and couldn't be happier.

HOWEVER, I seem to be getting seriously low scores (X1330) on 3DM11:

All I've done to this thing is load Win7 ultimate and drivers. Nvidia is at 331.82.
BF3 runs custom settings a little over high and achieves 40-50 FPS. That's faster than my desktop so I'm assuming its good.

Any ideas on the low 3DM11 score? BTW, I'm using a cracked version of 3DM11 and this is the first time I've played around with the program.