*** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

Very easy to upgrade to bluray later, a simple open up of the laptop, unscrew a few screws, unclip a connection, slide out dvd drive, replace with bluray drive, reclip connection, screw back in and thats it.

Well thats how it was for my old clevo d901c, cant be much different for the x7200

 

You have to buy a extreme processor to use your ram @ 1333

 

That is a shame. It is an artificial limitation in the BIOS by Clevo because the Core i7 900 cpus and x58 can natively support 1333 ram on ANY 1366 cpu

 

Scook, Sandy bridge will support 1333 natively and the XM CPU's will support 1600 (SB). I honestly don't think 1333 makes a practical difference but you'd probably notice going from 1066 to 1600. I'm only fueling the debate in your head with the things I'm debating myself

 

No debate, just looked it up and you are indeed right, the 1333 is extremes only for this generation, that is my bad. Shame though

Hate artificial limitations like this

 

1066 and 1333 pretty much have the same prices. As long as 1600 doesn't raise the price by $100 I might get it.

 

I threw 1600 in my desktop just because I figured, might as well get something that will perform well (and I was already partial towards dominator ram lol)

Wish we had some Dominator Laptop ram to compete with HyperX

 

There are just too many things I don't know about computers.

 

How do you guys check the screens for dead pixels?

 

Good question, I'd like to know too

 

In the limited time in preparing your order it is visually checked.

If one finds a problem after it ships then your unit is treated as DOA, and a replacement is sent to you ASAP, with free shipping back and forth.

 

This is with the optional dead pixel guarantee purchase only though yes?

 

It's a rhetorical question. It seems that many resellers only do a brief visual check. On FHD screens stuck/dead pixels are almost invisible from normal "working" distance and regular lighting conditions. Thus many screens are shipped to customers with dead pixels. Some buyers won't even notice those during the first few months, lol.

Turn off the lights, switch to a solid black background color and look from a very close distance from the screen (10-15cm). You can use a magnifying glass. Most stuck/dead pxls will be found near the corners/sides of the screen. You can then switch to other solid colors (including white) and check again

 

I've never ever noticed a dead pixel in one of my many laptops

 

Yes it is optional. Those that purchase full system orders can add this insurance to the order.

 

Looks like mine has already shipped and will arrive later today ... unless the accessories weigh 29 lbs, in which case I will need a much stronger desk

 

What's the chance of having dead/stuck pixels on a screen? I'm not sure if it's worth the insurance. But I guess that's just like other insurances.

 

Chances are small. That insurance is a big money maker for them

 

That sucks, somehow I feel that I will have the bad luck of having dead pixels if I don't get the warranty but if I do get it then the screen is going to be perfect.

 

Edit: Noticed LPC/XoticPC and others are charging $60 for the dead pixel guarantee which is a fair price. Last I checked with resellers in the past, it was $200 which was a rip off.

 

My good man, whats the deal?!?!?! Arrived!?

 

so still no word on ETA for SLI 460m/470m in the x7200?

 

I was told I get better performance with dual 480M and the 950 rather than a single 480m and the 980x so I changed again. Do all agree?

 

Yes absolutely. I'd get the lowest spec'd desktop processor with this system because even a 920 desktop is more powerful than a 940xm mobile processor.

 

I may be simply confused, but I thought a dead pixel was covered for the first year under the manufacturer's warranty. The insurance was just to get the free shipping back and forth and expedited return of a new unit. Am I totally wrong on this?

 

From Sagernotebook.com:

 

Usually in the warranty there is a certain number of acceptable dead pixels. This additional insurance brings that number to 0.

 

that is quite a bit of a stretch there. if that was two dt 480's yes. to mobile 480s..gonna have to say no.

you'll get better gaming performance with dual 480m's
but you'll get far better video editing, decoding and trans-coding along with running multiple task at the same time with a 980x, plus easy over clocking.(extreme edition) or you can use a 975 or a 965 as well. both are extremes also.

 

Yes and some companies can find up to 5 stuck or dead pixels acceptable so in this case because your paying some hefty loot it might be a good idea to opt in to the pixel program ..

I think today ? was the last day for the price of $60 for the pixel insurance ..

 

Yes I think you are right about the special ending today. Thanks for the info on the dead pixels. I have only ever had one screen with a dead pixel, but dropping a lot of cash on a laptop only to have a dead pixel on it would really suck.
@Patrck_744: That is where i got the idea that the insurance was just to cover the expedited shipping and DOA consideration. Kind of lame that a manufacturer or reseller would consider three, four, or five dead or stuck pixels to be acceptable and not cause for a return under warranty.

 

Well Sager has a 30 day money back guarantee i believe but you have to pay all the shipping back and i think you also lose the initial shipping cost included so its probably cheaper just to get the insurance lol..

 

lol. I was just thinking that with shipping it both ways and insuring it in transit, they have positioned it so you really are many dollars (potentially) ahead by buying the insurance. Blast!!!

 

Most manufacturers spec that there can be no dead pixels in the center and no two dead pixels can be within a certain distance of each other. They spec it to convince OEM's that they won't be shipping them unacceptable LCD's. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

sagers dead pixel insurance is because they are a smaller company. You need to understand they dont have unlimited supplies like hp and dell.

If you want service buy Dell/Alienware i had a bad pixel red top corner after 9 months no questions asked picked it up next day got it back 4 days later.

 

Wow, that is great service. However, I would rather have a good computer at a good price. A comparably spec'd Dell is twice what Clevo/Sager runs. I wil gladly pay the insurance for that difference. I am tempted to not worry about it, but the way my luck has been running I should get it.

 

What year are you living in?

 

Yes, alienware is going mainstream after dell took over. My cousin just bought an AW m15x, which is only about 200 more than 8690 for the current price, so he got the m15x anyways because he likes the design. I have to admit that AW does feel quite solid, I would probably have gotten it if not for the weight.

 

I looked at a Dell and configured it the way the 5125 I will probably end up with was congfigured and it was almost twice the money. I could not believe it.

 

What?

/10char

 

Wut indeed. Just checked both configurators myself, had to make sure Bobby Kotick didn't buy AW.

 

Before you crucify me here, I know the Precision is probably a better built unit with lots more upgradability than the 5125, but on a 15.6" with the i7 620M, the Precision is the one I was looking at an it was 2919 vs 1700 for the 5125 through xotic. I am sure that not all Sagers and Dells have such a price discrepancy but this one did. Even with a latitude it is not as expensive.. only 2600 but has a lesser HDD and video card. So I still hold by my statement that the Clevo is a deal and I would rather have better components at a better price than customer service. Though from what I hear, you can have that too with numerous resellers, notably XoticPC.

 

ok....so you posted about a Sager NP5125 in a x7200 thread whose only competition is the M17x.

Got it.

 

Yeah. I don't even remember why I posted, but an x7200 is in my future, but the 5125 is in the more immediate future. I should have been clearer in my juxtaposition. Apologies.

Edit: Oh yeah, the dead pixel policy.

 

How close to the x7200 does the M17x get? I know I nearly brought one because they are so stylely. But the Sager was cheaper and seemed far more future proofed.

 

Well the obvious difference is the fact that the M17x uses mobile processors so the x7200 has a large leg up there. In fact the only place the M17x is better IMO is the RGB LED 16:10 screen vs the 16:9 FHD screen of the Clevo. You can have either 5870's inn crossfire or up to the 285M in SLI, so the video can potentially be better in the x7200 as well. As you said, it is much more future proof because of the desktop processor in the Clevo. Also, you max out at 8GB RAM and only 2 HDD in the Alienware. Another big difference is the presence of 2 USB 3.0's in the Clevo.
But as you said the M17x is more stylish and has the IMO awesome backlit keyboard. I really wish Clevo would increase the quality of their screens and give the backlighting as an option at least. I think all this info is correct. It is late and I am tired so forgive any errors.

 

I am pretty sure that Core i7 2.66GHz would bottleneck GTX 480M SLi. You would not use all its potential. Of course differences are small but still. I am not 100% sure though. 2.66GHz seems to me little too slow....

 

It's there any third party after market backlit keyboards available that anyone knows of? I know I can get a standalone backlit keyboard, also does anyone know if the x7200 would run three monitors successfully?

 

I posted this in the X8100 thread today: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...-sager-8120-owners-thread-74.html#post6726371

I can probably hit 19k if I did some Windows service tweaks. Look at the GPU score though, it's slightly below what baby hemi got with OC'd 480M GTX SLi.

 

I recall some info on how to fix dead pixels, something like hold your finger in the spot while you turn off the power or something random like that. Will see if I can hunt it out.

Here it is How to Fix a Stuck Pixel on an LCD Monitor - wikiHow

 

Any non-physx Vantage score's yet?

With my M17x I've hit a GPU score of 18,600 before, but I didn't save it because my CPU score was lower than expected. I'd say this machine should be a great competitor to the M17x, but until we have proper score's we won't know.. 55k for CPU is a little high