*** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

Any more information on the release date for this powerhouse?

 

Again, thanks for the info. I knew actually posting here would be beneficial. I am new to Linux but so far am a big fan. I got so sick of IE crashing on me and the various issues I had with many MS products. So far Ubuntu 10.04 has been very kind to me. I am still dual booting it on my old Dell laptop but the gain in speed of everything I do is great. Can't wait to have a new lappy with some real power and see how it flies. AS for the GPU I guess I will just wait and see what people say on these forums about 480 and see what is available when I pull the rigger on MY computer vs my work computer... which will be the B5100M, which only comes with the 330M. But again, for a work computer that is plenty to accomplish my tasks plus a bit of gaming I should think.

Oh, and have you heard about being able to switchi out the keyboards on Clevos?

 

Some more pics of some internals and such for the x7200.

This major Clevo reseller states "X7200 will in turn open the full support of overclocking , vowing to build a laptop in the world record !"...

Thermal structure



Cooling air flow





Speakers

 

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16:9 ( So sad.

 

Lol. I was just thinking the same thing. With such a power house, it would really be nice to have a 16:10 ratio. Maybe on the one after when they are sporting SB CPU's. Fingers crossed on both.

 

As sad as it may be, I honestly think 16:10 is dead. We will not see it again. Sure, they'll go over 1080p in the future, but it will still be 16:9 or probably some other ratio.

 

i really hope they dont go any wider than 16:9.

 

Yeah i hope they don't go wider either killer man really is. So far this machine is really impressing me more and more, that thing looks like a beast so much inside!

 

No express card slot on the x7200 ? What about built in tv-tunner with built in TV jack (the kind of jack where you plug in the antenna cable) ?

And we are not gonna get those "slim" heatsinks on the gpus, the heatsinks are gpu dependant, right ?

 

Hi !

We`ll receìve our X7200 sample in 48h.

( Only with GTX 480M )

Is it possible to use the ATI 5870 Mobility from the W870CU ?
Is a CrossFire-cable required ?

 

Are those questionmarks intented? I doubt it, but anyway:

Ss long as the bios supports it, the Mobility Radeon HD 5870 should run just fine, but of course the heatsink will not make perfect contact. Otherwise it would be great to know which temperatures the MR HD 5870 achieves in the X7200's cooling system.

The Mobility Radeon HD 5870 delivered with the W8x0CU has no CrossFire cable connector. Without a CrossFire cable the signal would have to travel through the MXM slot which would be way too slow and render CrossFire useless. I think Clevo is yet to bring out MR HD 5870s with the CrossFire connector.

 

We were hoping you could tell us those things. When will the x7200 go on sale at mySN?

 

Good news! I was afraid that x7200 would stay as a prototype till Sandy Bridge.

 

Excellent. Please post your first thoughts as soon as you can. I always like the model I am getting to be out for a bit to figure out and address any hiccups. iPhone 4 anyone? lol

 

Here is a update from Sager:

 

Thanks, Justin. Hard facts sure beat rumors and speculation.

 

Thanks for the update...
Clevo know that they leave too little time room for this system with their delays. There will be a new desktop platform by the end of 2010 and many will simply skip x7200.

 

At least they're working on the bugs and not handing them over (cough DPC and CF flickering AW cough)

 

DPC latency and flickering are not exclusive to AW. It exists in Clevo platforms too and has been largely unresolved also....

AW and Clevo share alot more common genetics then you think, and share largely unresolvable hardware defects too. I mean afterall they basically with the exception of the coming x7200 share the exact same tech.

 

Yes this is a reasonable time frame. Just think...this is when the new i7 990X should be available...

 

However, to be fair, Clevo did not release CF 5870s due to what they perceived as issues (at least that's what we were told for the x8100). They also didn't use the platform the m17x R1 used in a flagship product. I guess you could say some people may be willing to live with the bugs, but Dell/AW doesn't advertise that there's an issue before releasing

 

You don't know the reasons they didnt release 5870's. Clevo has an exclusive partnership contract with Nvidia, meaning in return for enhanced business relations and early product releases they must release some systems with Nvidia only.

Secondly Clevo DID use the R1 Nvidia chipset platform in the M980NU that caused the exact same issues the r1 had. Flickering is also now a problem in the x8100.

 

We were told that it was a combination of business decisions and technical issues, meaning the second part was only one part of the issue, however there's no way I'll find where that was quoted.

 

And what technical issues do Radeons have in AW?
Anyway, there's nothing as bad as the latency problem that as was mentioned, affected both Clevo and AW systems.
I agree with nobodyshero, it's about money strategy more than anything else.
It's hard to generate a lot of income when playing with a 300$ GPU

 

The flickering in CF.

 

Yes, there was/is some flickering in certain games, but with every new hotfix and catalyst version things are getting better. In fact, the games I play, don't have any flickering.
But I only play a few now

Also,
Are you 100% certain that the new SLI systems won't have the same stuttering issues as the 2xxM?
I'd hate to pay 3x for the Greens just to endup in the same hell as I was with 280M's.

 

We`ll test all VGA configurations and OC.
Release @ Shop: 15th Aug 2010.

Notebookcheck.com will get the sample for a test.

 

Will you also be testing the SLI configs?

 

Is it common to get units for test with a laundry list of issues to fix?

 

Are we still gonna have this "flickering" in the x7200 ?

What does it mean? XTU bugs ?

I thought for a system this pricey, (alienware, x8100) there would be no bugs.

Hopefully the x7200 will be bug free.

Also note that OriginPCs offer x8100 with crossfire 5870.
How is this possible if the crossfire 5870 is not supported in the x8100 ?
http://www.originpc.com/shop/pc/configurePrd.asp?idproduct=122

To be honest, i like more the x8100 chasis, regarding the gaming buttons and the touch sensitive buttons.

Why were those not included in the x7200 ? There's plenty space.
Well, no point in askin' anyway, since the x7200 is gonna come out without those anyway.
Maybe the next chasis will have them.
I wonder if they are ever gonna make a 18" chasis, a x8100 succesor, to be more precise.

PS: For the money we pay for such systems, there should be -1 BUGS.

 

Umm, the bugs are why it's not released yet - they're working to fix them before release...

 

XTU is Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility. More Info Here They are experiencing some bugs with this feature.

 

i concur. was thinking this was a good thing, personally.

 

I like the way Clevo thinks of its customers so far, i really want to get this machine eventually and if their going to be this good and actually talk with their resellers and not keep everything under the hood cough dpc cough stuttering!!**

 

The XTU seems like a nice piece of software to have for your intel cpu system. I sure hope they fix the issue.

One question:
The motheboard inside the laptop, is that made by clevo itself, like asus makes motherboards, clevo makes motherboards too for their laptops ?
I noticed the layout is different from the d900f with the dimms beneath the keyboard.

 

Yes, Clevo makes their own motherboards. Of course they take some components from other manufacturers, like chipsets and stuff, but those cannot produced inhouse.

 

Do you guys have the sample now? 120h already.

 

They're not there... they're playing with the X7200 at this moment

 

I am bursting to find out their findings lol!!

Please hurry guys! We need lots of pics as well!!!

 

How many MINI PCI Express slots is the x7200 going to have ?
Same as the D900f ?
D900f has 3, but i think only one of the 3 has pci express 1x conectivity, the rest being usb.

 

Nice advertisement in Chinese...

 

LOL, what in God's All Mighty Name does it say ?
I bet nothing we don't know allready.

 

Any word on reviews for this system yet? And has Eurocom said anything else about the RGB LED option for it? If they do offer RGB LED, I'll be tempted to grab a 480M setup + RGB LED and ditch my M17x.

 

I doubt we will see an RGB option for this machine ever but a 120hz 1080p screen might be nice ....

 

Well I think a Eurocom sales rep did say that they'd offer RGB LED unless something has changed since then. I don't really care about 120hz, I'm not into 3D gaming.

Edit: Checked their website and no RGB LED option.

 

120hz is not just about 3d gaming, infact i could care less about 3d gaming to be honest but man games look SOO much smoother running on a 120hz screen its not even funny...

These screens are true 120hz and not the gimmicky TV 120hz ...

 

I'm curious how vsync would work with 120 Hz if flickering were still an issue.

 

Joker youre INSANE, realy. My laptop now is a 11" atom Netbook with 2gb ram, and 160hdd (i do have an external cdrom and 1.5TB hdd togther with logitecg z cinema), and the pc runs windows 7 at the limit supportability.

If i had your laptop, i would keep it for at the very least 3 years.
But that's human nature, allways wanting more, without reason, even if it has the very best. Don't get me wrong, i'm not blaming or judging you or something, what i want to point out here is the amazing difference that exists between people.

At least in my opinion, i am entitled to get the x7200, unfortunatly, i can't say the same about you

just to give you an ideea of how great my netbook is, i installed diablo 2, and the video test didn't find any compatible modes what so ever. AMIN for that !

Yah, but the thing is the sistem has to pump 120 fps for that, right ?

Good look pumping 120 fps in crysis in 1080p all maxed out (16AF, but no AA) even with 980x and 480m SLI.

EVEN so, crysis isn't the only PC game on the planet, and on many games it might work.
How about a RGB led AND 120hz screen.

THAT would be the real stuff right there.

 

No it does not have to pump 120fps to take advantage of the 120hz screen ...


The refresh rate of the screen has 0 to do with how many frames per second you are getting...