**Official Sager NP5160 / Clevo W150HNQ Owners' Lounge**

Can you go to your bank and send a check in US dollars to Xotic, or a Money Order? Since this laptop isn't going to even be in their hands until Feb., just findout if your bank can send something they will actually take.

 

I'm 20, banks scare the out of me i've got like $2000 in cash, but I'm saving that to travel to Europe.

I think the money order plan is the only way to go for me. Take my paypal money, cash it somehow and send the money order. Do i have to be linked to bank to send a money order?

 

Pre-ordered one on Tuesday, and am now waiting in great anticipation! After using an Inspiron 9400 (E1705) for years, it'll be nice to have some battery life

 

I might have to order myself one of these, been looking at the 8150, but the battery life on this one is a real plus. Anyone have any experience with gaming on this little guy yet?

 

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That is not likely since the first ones haven't arrived in the US yet, or anywhere worldwide for that matter.

 

Dag, I was hoping someone would've gotten one by now

 

Not for at least 2+ weeks...
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This is when Sager is expecting receipt. Machines will be going into production right away and shipments will start just a couple days later.

 

Quick question, does the GT 540M support DX11? Accoring to the specs page on Xoticpc it doesnt, but on the config page it does

 

Yes it does support DX11...

GeForce GT 540M
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This lappy looks really good. Only thing is that side vent near all the important cables...

 

have any difference from machines with sager logo brand from the clevo standard machine ?

BR

 

Depends on the resellers, and what they can do. Some resellers resell Sager's directly and some people take clevo shells and then put their own parts and other stuff onto them (like we do). So take a look around. There will be little differences between them all, just depending on what you are looking for.

 

Does anybody know how the 540m compares to a Mobility Radeon 6570? Debating whether I should get this instead of an HP Pavilion dv6.

 

Performance wise I would say they are pretty close as the 6570 is a rebadged 5770M series video. Don't have concrete numbers on hand, but I would say they would be within 10% of eachother, trading performance numbers back and forth.

 

My 8130 arrives Wednesday, after looking at the specs of this one + battery and weight I think I should've waited. Primarily photoshop computer no plan on gaming.

 

So whats the verdict on portability? Is the AC adapter a brick?

 

All AC Adapters are called bricks, it is just a matter of what size the brick is.

The Sager NP5160 uses a 90W AC Adapter, which is about as small as they come when you have a discrete video card.

Other models with higher end discrete cards will have AC Adapters that are up to 300W...now that's a brick!

 

the ATI Mobile HD6650 is close than what mobile board for performance comparation ?

BR

 

Is it wiser to buy it now with 2nd gen SB quad core processor or wait till 20th Feb'11 for a refresh/option with dual core 2nd gen SB processor ? The earlier quads were generating more heat than their dual core counterparts and, but no idea about 2nd gen i5/i7 processors. Please suggest.

 

I can't speak for mobile, but all the desktop sandy bridge reviews have shown they run faster and produce less heat then their Nelhelm counterparts. I'm guessing they figured out the thermals for these new mobile processors as well.

 

Hi all - new to the forum. Just ordered the NP5160 from XoticPC with the below config as my work notebook. I have a Crucial C300 256GB that I will swap in for the stock hard drive - should be a sweet machine.

One question - this notebook has HDMI and VGA external ports. Can you use the laptop screen and both external ports simultaneously for a total of 3 monitors? If not, what are the supported combinations? Thanks.

1 x Sager NP5160 / Clevo W150HN PRE ORDER () = $1,583.00
Xotic Gear No Xotic PC Gear
Warranty Sager 3 Year Parts & Labor Warranty, Lifetime Sager Toll Free Support
Software Bundle (Not Installed) No Software Bundle
Microsoft Office Software No Office Software
Operating System No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
Notebook Cooler No Notebook Cooler
Mouse / Keyboard Accessories No External Keyboard or Mouse
Fingerprint Reader Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters No Dock/Hub/Adapter
Spare AC Adapter Sager NP768x Spare AC Adapter
Car Adapter No Car Adapter
Battery Spare 6 Cell Battery (62.16WH)
Case No Carrying Case
Sound Card Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
TV Tuner No TV Tuner
Camera Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
Wireless Network Accessories No Network Accessory
Wireless Network Intel® Advanced-N 6230 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Blueooth
Bluetooth Internal Bluetooth + EDR
Memory Card Reader Internal 4-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO)
Floppy Drive No Floppy Drive
Back Up Software No Back Up Software
External Hard Drive (Back Up) No Back Up Hard Drive
Additional Hard Drive in Optical Drive Bay No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - When Selecting, The Hard Drive is sent in Optical Bay Caddy that will need Bezel Replaced from Optical Drive (When in use Optical Drive Must be Removed)
Primary Hard Drive ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) - Default
Optical Drive ~ 6X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive-
Exterior Finish Standard Finish
Ram ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)- Special
External Display Video Adapters No Video Adapter
Graphics Video Card nVidia GT 540M 1024MB PCI-Express GDDR3 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology
Thermal Compound - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Processor -2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2720QM, 2.2-3.3GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
Dead Pixel Warranty 0 Dead Pixel Warranty (30 Day)
Display 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Glare Type Screen

 

The Dual Core Sandy Bridge processors will be out 2/20/11 just to let you know. Just the quads launched first.

 

I ordered one for my wife from lpc-digital for $800, here's the config:


Display: 15.6" HD LED-Backlit Display with SuperClear
Zero Dead Pixel Insurance: None
Video & Graphics Card: 1GB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce GT 540M with Optimus *
CPU Processor: 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM
Thermal Compound: IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Operating System: No OS - Drivers & Utility Software Only
Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 2 X 2GB
Primary Hard Disk Drive: 320GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive
Optical Drive: 8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Wireless Network Card: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N *
Primary Battery: 6 cells smart Lithium‐Ion battery pack 48.84Wh
TV-Tuner: None
Microsoft Office: None
Warranty: 3 Year Labor and 1 Year Premium** Parts Warranty
Additional Power Adapter: None
Additional Battery Pack: None
Carrying Bag: Standard Carrying Bag
Shipping Method: UPS Ground

On the default config i've changed the thermal compound and the wireless network card.

Edit.: I have a Seagate Momentus XT 500gb to put in this laptop.

 

I know that dual cores will be lunched on 20th Feb but was worried about quad core Vs dual core heat.

 

The dual's TDP is 10W less than the quads, so you should be looking at a little less heat from the duals.

 

I just found out that Mythlogic has matte screens that they can sell to you OR have them install it into your 5160 for a reasonable price. Looks like we can get the best of both worlds, thanks for offering this Mythlogic, I'll be ordering one once i get tired of my glossy screen... which will probably be sooner than later

 

Are any price quotes available yet?

 

Is the graphic card upgradable? If I want to buy a 460m and put it later, is it possible on the NP5160?

 

Yes please check our website to see the prices for the screens, PM me if you want a price for us to swap out the screen on a laptop not built from us.

No i'm sorry, the video is soldered to the motherboard and is not upgradable.

 

Mythlogic and other NP5160 resellers,

Do you know why Mythlogic.com has the
i7-2720QM 2.20GHz upgrade for only +$19.55 and other sellers +$160?

Unfortunately, Mythlogic total price is about $200 more (I'm guessing because of the included 4years warranty). Mythlogic, is there anyway to not include the warranty to lower the price?

Do you know when there might be other notebooks similar to NP5160 with ExpressCard, removable/upgradable mid GPU? Do you know where we can find service manual or internal pictures of NP5160.

Thanks so much.

 

Our price difference is because we build them from scratch, so our pricinig is differen't which sometimes means we are a bit more and sometimes we are a bit cheaper and it allows us to have many more options for the laptops as we can use any compatible components. Also all of our components are all Kingston/Corsair/Seagate you won't find any a-data memory, or fujitsu or hitachi drives in our laptops. Yes we have a 4 year warranty with technical support. Also all our laptops are hand built and hand tested by us for over 72 hours before they ever get to you, using the same validation tools that intel uses when they prove their motherboards and cpu's as we are a direct Intel partner. So overall our component prices are a bit different and we put a lot of labor into building each machine to make sure that its ready to go, and we've done our best to kill it and then replace the failing components before we send it to you.

For internal pictures of the 5160, you can get the service manual for the 5135 which is the same model, but has the same connectors etc. You can get them from http://forum.notebookreview.com/7040924-post1052.html that post if you want to see the internals.

 

Thanks Myth,

So there are two Mini-cards mPCIe for ViDock?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/418851-diy-vidock-experiences.html

1.Mini-Card Connector (3.5G Module)

4. Mini-Card Connector (WLAN Module)

I appreciate the high quality & warranty for the more expensie / higher heat models. I hope you will someday reconsider giving buyers an option for the lower cost options on these lower end models.

Many of us are light / low milelage users, with other PCs, smartphones, work PCs, especially with SSDs and much lower heat new processors wiil appreaciate the lower costs & quality.

Thanks.

 

No worries, completely understand, also note that on 2/20 cheaper processors will be out (Dual Core) so you might want to check back then as that will make them cheaper and cooler which would be perfect for those types of uses. The only unknown on that m-Pcie slot MIGHT be wired USB instead of pcie+usb like on the 5135 but we don't have confirmation of that until we get to touch one, as Clevo also uploaded the wrong manual for this model on the website, so we can't check there either

 

Question, what do you gain by swapping out the thermal compound? Is that more of an overclocking thing?

 

The hope is that your laptop runs a few degrees cooler at both idle and load... this tends to help not only overclockers, but the longevity of the laptop overall.

 

Sigh... now all we need is one of these with a proper MXM socket to handle a 6970m, BIOS switchable graphics and we're laughing.

 

That's pretty sad :/
However, is there a plan to allow other video cards in the future?

 

Which CPU is being quoted here for the battery life?

 

Integrated video will give you 4.5~5 hours battery life.

 

I understand the machine is running off the IGP to get the extended time, what I want to know is the machine using a Quad or Dual CPU to get the 4.5-5 hours of run time. It will make a difference which one is being quoted for the time.

 

The sandy bridge currently listed are 45W and above, see here.

So their power usage will be about the same as 1st gen quad i7 , such as the i7-720.

I am waiting for the release of the 25 and 35W sandy bridges to check their benchmarks, they should have a significantly longer battery life.

 

Doesn't it have to be the Quad core Sandy-Bridges that are being used? For one, the quad cores are the only CPUs being offered with this model, and for two, I don't believe the dual core Sandy Bridge is out yet.

 

Not necessarily, since this laptop will support both duals and quads, the factory testing will have validated both types. For the resellers to quote numbers they have to get back to Sager or Clevo, so the numbers they get could be from either class of CPU’s. Not from just what you could buy now.

 

The 4.5~5 hour battery life quote is from actual testing using Sandy Bridge Quads and the integrated video.

Testing with the discrete card is not done because there are just too many variables of use, and therefore the battery life will vary widely. However you should expect, given proper settings to maximize battery life, the most important of which is to have your screen brightness turned down as much as possible and still have it comfortable to read, you should see something in the range of 2~2.5 or more hours given normal computing tasks. For gaming, cut it in half.

 

Can you tell me what version of memory is used for the 540m graphic card? Clevo website says GDDR3 but that does not seem to be an option according to:
NotebookCheck Specs
According to that, only GDDR5 and DDR3 are available.

 

Nice! So with a 35W Dual (I am thinking the i5 2520) we should see a solid battery life north of 5 hours.

 

Just from Sager:

 

Does this affect all sager/clevo resellers? I'm not sure how the whole business works.

 

Yes, that is correct.