*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

I have been shopping for a few weeks for one of these. Dude works for one of the resellers, gets a great discount, and had 4 for sale when I saw it. Within a couple of hours, only had the one I wanted. I have heard so much about these, and have spent about 6 weeks or so researching. Was going to buy a 2720 with the new Ati card, 4-6 gb ram, until I saw this. Everything I have seen says these are not only top of the line, but the most user configureable lappys available. I can't wait for the next few days until I get my hands on this. I have an extra ssd to put into this, so I can't wait.

 

nice dude. any yeah, you can easily access every component in the laptop for repair or upgrading.. you know which reseller? would be interesting to know

 

hey question. how long does it take for your windows 7's to start up from the first boot page to the desktop? (not counting in the login page if you have one)

i have a 2720, 8gb 1600 ram, momentus hybrid drive and i'm running win 7 64bit but it takes about 40seconds for it to boot. is this normal?

 

my current dell w/ a 5400rpm hd takes easily twice that sometimes lol.

if you restart your computer a few times in a row, it'll prolly speed up since you have the hybrid drive.. has to learn which files to store on the ssd section

 

It really depends on hoe many processes you have running and what progams are launched during startup. 40 secs does seem long especially for the momentus xt. I had one before and id get 23 secs on boottimer and 28-30 on bootracer and that with 55 processes on startup.
Are you by chance using itunes? That thing slows down bootups a lot imho.

 

It is yes. The USB 3.0 controllers are the same for all three models. I'm using these right now.

 

The Momentus XT can take quite a number of system restarts before it 'learns' the most efficient and quickest way to organise the start up files, or most requested files. Have you given it enough time to do this?

I rarely restart because I just use hibernation but I can resume hibernation in abut 20 seconds it seems. I will be measuring boot times later to get a more accurate figure though.

 

Does it really matter?

 

Yeah it would, if not he would be better off getting a cheap 7200 rpm drive dont you think.

 

Yeah, lol. That was kind of an unnecessary question...

So basically you're gonna wanna check your start up programs list (start --> search for "run" --> in run, type "msconfig" --> click Start Up). Disable all the ones you don't need. If you're unsure, a quick google search will tell you what each does

Then restart your computer half a dozen times hopefully it'll learn by then, and then let's us know your time

 

So does anybody know what's the deal with RAM? I've got the i7 2720, will 2x4gb of 1600 hyperx ram run at 1600 on the P150hm?

I've found many different answers, but none confirming that 8gb of 1600 ram will run at 1600

 

The motherboard only has support for 2 slots that run at 1600Mhz. Everything else runs at 1333. That means you can only have a max of 8GB running at 1600Mhz.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Thanks! I will take this as confirmation my 2x4gb 1600 set up will work in 1600. =)

I'm guessing from what i've read the ram will not run at 1600 by default?

 

it depends. currently, theres two types of DDR3-1600 SO-DIMM RAM modules: one that only runs at 1600 when XMP is enabled (only supported on the P170HM) and the other one natively running at 1600 (meaning its JEDEC compliant). the latter one would be the only option for the P150HM to run 2x4 GB of 1600 RAM, since it doesnt support XMP with its BIOS. So better check what kinda RAM modules u have installed!

cheers

 

hey guys these are my temps while playing bad company 2 at 1080



I feel like its a little bit to high if there is in fact thermal paste. I feel since they forgot to put the 2720 in my laptop they may not have put the ic diamond in, although sager said they did =[

 

They are a bit high, but they didnt forget the thermal paste, although they didnt do a very good job.

 

seems high to me. what is your room temp? are you blocking the fans while playing maby?

if not you might want to redo the paste job.

so its confirmed that the p150 can run 8 gig @ 1600 now? source please?

and if not, the kingston hyperx will run @1333 on lower timings, so hyperx is better anyway or atleast i think

 

The Clevo P150HM service manual states that a total of 2x4GB DDR3 1600 can be placed on any two SO-DIMMS slots.

 

Its around 20-22c in my room. I am not a computer expert and wouldn't know where to begin with repasting. The fans are not being blocked =[

 

those temps do seem a bit high for your ambient temps. however you could try putting the fans on max speed by pressing fn+1 and see if that helps your temps.

 

not hard to do. you will do fine just some screws, bada bim bada bam and done.

get some ic diamond 7 from ebay. its about 10 bux. also get a bottle of condense remover from a car store. then i guess we can guide you trough when you got the parts you need.

 

has the manual been updated lately? i have read that it suports 2x2gb 1600mhz ram, and some says that it theoretically should pull of using 2x4gb

have not yet seen anyone succeed tho. here is a thread about this issue

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/563987-ddr3-1600-p150hm-b3.html

 

Just so you have some comparison, mine goes to about 79C when I max out BFBC2. Ambient temperature is usually 19-20C.

 

I have the exact same specs but opted for the matte screen. Mine is doing atleast 10c more than you.
I think I am gonna return it and opt for another sager or asus model.

 

This seems to match the research i've been doing. So that means that the Patriot Signature Ram is the only ram that will run at 1600 for us right now since it's JEDEC compliant.

It's strange how manufacturers of the p150hm sell the Hyperx 1600 even though the P150hm can't run it at 1600 because the p150hm doesn't support XMP.

Now the dilemma: Should i cancel my order for the HyperX 1600 I have from newegg and buy the patriot signature?

I know that the HyperX have a pretty good reputation for reliability and gaming...


Kingston HyperX:
Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model KHX1600C9S3K2/8GX
Patriot memory:
Newegg.com - Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model PSD38G1600SK

 

I do not know if the manual has been updated; PM user "theriko" regarding manuals (he's the expert in that field). I remember someone having the 1600s in their laptop and gaining the right CL timings and I was thinking of ordering a pair myself.

 

Perhaps check the application of the thermal paste. If it wasn't well done, take a pic of it, re-paste, then take it up with your reseller to see if you can get any compensation for the re-pasting.

 

I'd say that you may see about exchanging it. If it was only temps, I'd tell yoh to repast yourself, and see about getting compensated by your reseller. But since they already screwed you on the processor, I'd say that's the end of the line. I personally am not going to be very forgiving when I drop $3k on a laptop, and they screw up my order..

Did they ever like refund you for the processor screw up?

 

RAM is RAM.

Buy the cheapest stuff available.

 

lol, very "qualified" remark indeed

 

A bit high? When I play Crysis 2, I use a Zalman laptop cooler and the GPU hits 75 C. This is with the IC Diamond TP.

 

Gah! This morning the laptop was "out for delivery". Now it says "in transit" again, and delivery has been "updated to Tuesday 4/12/11"...

 

Was someone home to receive it? A signature is going to be required.

 

Sager production usually take 6-12 business days, right?

Does anyone who has already received theirs know if production time was on the shorter end or longer one for them?

 

Xotic told be Sager says to expect in on the long-end, like 10 business days.

Lol my UPS guy will leave a $2k notebook on the door step, like it's a $0.25 newspaper.

 

It's going to the front desk at my dorm.. So yeah, Id assume someone would be there. Supposed to be someone there 24 hours a day lol..

And it doesn't say anything about a failed delivery attempt

 

A fast question, what is th battery life of this laptop along with the different video cards?

 

Yea they offered me a refund on the processor or free shipping back to them to to get the CPU upgrade. I did not want to send it back and have the laptop in transit, which may have caused further problems.

Trying to decide what laptop to get now >_< Or order the same one again with the AMD card O_O



@Tiptip battery life is around 3 hours depending on what your doing.

 

Does anyone else get the white screen of death while playing Bad Company 2? I don't think it's a hardware issue, as it happens on my friends computer that I was using before I received my 8150. What happens is that the screen goes black after playing for about five minutes, and then screen screen goes black before turning all white. You're still in control of the game, as you can move and hear all the sounds, but you can't see anything.

The only fix that works was forcing the game to run in DX9 but modifying the GameSettings configuration file.

 

If you guys are interested, rjtech is selling the 6970m standalone with heat sink for 8150 at a price of 550usd.

 

This seems to be a widespread issue.

 

Not sure if I should return my 8150 to switch to the 6970M. (Wonder if my reseller can arrange something like they send me a 6970M and I send the 485M back).

Even I switch to the 6970M, I could even afford to get the 8150-S1 with the matte screen since the price difference between the 6970M and the 485M is quite substantial.

Not sure if the ~2 week round trip merits it though.

 

guys. it's here. it's fantastic. i'm in love lol..

 

Congratz! What do you think of the screen?

 

Please take pics of screen, and next to another laptop's LCD, if possible.

 

I'll get some pics up here in a bit. Not done playin lol. Right now I'm watchin transformers on blueray. My first blueray movie exciting times. I'll do benches and stuff too in a little while..

Found a bad pixel bit it's covered by myth. I can send it in at my convenience

 

Sounds like you got a lemon. I think you should at least receive a full replacement with shipping fully covered.

 

Just Wondering on the memories, would these work?
Newegg.ca - Patriot Signature 4GB (2 x 2GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model PSD34G1600SK

 

How do I know if its a lemon? Nvidia claims 90-95c are safe temperatures but looks like I was the only one getting this high.

Since I am in Canada Sager has different policies on return/shipping. They will only replace the laptop once a return RMA has been initiated, but they will not cover the shipping from me to them, or to xoticpc (They need to remove the screen upgrade and put the stock screen before going to Sager).

I already started the RMA, tomorrow I am going to UPS/Fedex to ship it back. It sucks that I have to pay the return shipping but I guess this is the burden of not being satisfied with the purchase.

 

these were results from Mythlogic (pinned to desktop):

3D mark 11 (Performance presets)
-Total PCMarks: P2874
-Graphics Score: 2654
-Physics Score: 5796
-Combined Score: 2538

Vantage
-Total PCMarks: 17515
-Memories Suite: 9943
-TV and Movies Suite: 6428
-Gaming Suite: 17189
-Music Suite: 17323
-Communications Suite: 15952
-Productivity Suite: 19602
-HDD Suite: 27166

Heaven (all high settings, 4x)
FPS: 26.9
Scores: 678
Min FPS: 8.0
Max FPS: 9.9

AvP D3D11
-Number of frames: 3590
-Average Frame Time: 29.2ms
-Average FPS: 34.3

screen comparison photos against Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop. you'll have to excuse the iphone 4 quality pics lol
8150 pictures by hizzaah - Photobucket

anything else? gonna try my hand at overclocking in a bit. see if i can up those scores a bit. just wanna get 3DMark downloaded first