*** Official Sager NP8170/Clevo P170HM Owners Lounge ***

I second that motion!!

 

OR is it simply: "conned"

 

Bricking this thing scares the hell outta me, although I reflash my nook color all the time ...

 

Agreed. It will be cool to see some "official" bios downloads for specific models from our resellers instead of risking the integrity of the hardware because of these "general" bios

I hope my machine comes with the most stable/recent bios tho ^^

 

Mine has Bios: 1.01.03 ,EC: 1.00.05 and Vbios:70.24.26.00.01.
I got it just 2 weeks ago from Malibal. so I guess the above may be considered the current "tried and tested" bios versions.

I also have the fn+1 interval hickups as some folks here do. however I don't find this an issue at all. In fact the fn+1 max speed is doing very good job at keeping the GPU temps well below 80c during gaming and even intensive Cuda rendering.

In normal mode - when turning off the fn+1 speed,- the fan runs smooth and kicks at highest speed when temp is around 80-85c.

The fn+5 for sound boost is noticeable and working well.
The 9-in-1 card reader is working well.
I didn't check the Wake-up after suspend and USB power things because i really don't use them.

 

A query I pose in sheepish prose:

When I run msinfo.exe, my BIOS version states

BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc 4.6.4 13/05/2011

This in no way looks like the BIOS versions I'm seeing on the clevo bios thread - is there another way to find my version to see if it needs updates?

 

Next time you start up, hit the F2 key during the splash screen. Among the data displayed will be both the BIOS rev and the KBC/EC rev. The numbers you record there will be the ones you are looking for.

BTW Animatrix, love the poetics !!

 

So, I checked mine, delivered back in June:

BIOS 1.01.07 aNS1
KBC/EC 1.00.05 SA1

This is indeed interesting as it would appear that my BIOS has a higher number, yet was delivered earlier.

One of my favorite movie quotes, from Aliens: "Don't nobody touch nuthin".

I await "official" guidance before I do anything, er, touch nuthin.....

 

Does anybody know if our laptops support Dolby Digital Live out the optical toslink port? I want to buy an Astro Mixamp but I don't know it it will work

 

Looks like bios revisions did not survive the economic recession afterall...

 

you and me brother, "If it aint broke, don't fix it", our saying in the Navy!

 

Dude FN + 5 key makes a world of difference in sound quality. Any other FN keys I don't know about

 

Since you have a Sager bios...don´t flash a Clevo bios or there is no way back.

 

The only keys not listed in the user manual are:

FN + 1 = max fans
FN + 5 = speakers/sub

The rest are pretty standard

 

Did you check out the ESM? P17xHM_ESM.zip (Thanks to theriko)

 

FN + Power >>> USB Charge Function (from EC 06 onwards)

FN + B pressed then startup...do we smell a bios recovery... (come on Resellers how does it work?)

 

Yeah!

We want a bios recovery!

 

What would be nice would be a set of unified files that work with Sager & Clevo, less chance of the Dreaded Brick Syndrome. Gives me shivers & stuff.

Now, will there be a BIOS recovery mode coming soon?

 

I do not think a BIOS recovery is in the works at this time. Sorry.
_

 

Wait what's this now?

I've never updated from the 03, but this might get me to flash it.

 

As Tim the Toolman would say, "AHwooaAAH??"

Someone kindly enlighten me as to what a 'usb charge' is? (I have one port on this for sure that I get power to when the beastie is off, as my coloured mouse kaleidescopes all night long.

 

That's typically what's referred to with "USB charge". It just means an always on USB port, even when the system power is off.

 

Thanks for the info on the SATORI P170HM-3D! mine should be shipped today and delivered tomorrow, according to the notice provided last week by MALIBAL.

OMG *-* I'm looking forward to this, YAY~

 

Ooh yeah, I need that in my life. I guess it's time to finally flash from the original March EC.

 

Are you serious about FN + Power=USB Charge Function?
Here is my bios
Do I have the latest version?

 

i'm in the same boat as you - was waiting on the 120hz 3d screens - but i haven't heard from Malibal so i'm thinking they didn't ship them out today

 

Yes this is the latest SAGER bios and EC for the NP8170.
_

 

I am not even going to worry about it. My laptop idles around 100F and the fan barely comes on now and then. It is so quiet. The newest driver for the sound did amazing things for me. It is much louder now. I had it in the garage watching a movie while cleaning and this beast is amazing. I don't want ANYTHING to change for now. It does everything for me that I want and could not imagine changing anything for now.

 

Who sound driver are you talking about.
You mean the latest on Sagers website?

 

yessir, driver version is:

11 Feb 11
6.0.1.6307

I believe it made the laptop much louder. I had to change my settings to make the new driver work.

On the fun side, I just configured the most expensive 8170 on the planet:

Configuration Summary
Total Price:$13,586.84

Mobile Chassis MYTHLOGIC Nyx 1711 Chassis (Clevo P170HM)
Mobile Display 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) 120Hz Matte LED Backlit LCD, 72% Color Gamut (nVIDIA Graphics Only)
Dead Pixel Guarantee MYTH Pixel Perfect Guarantee
Monitor Calibration Free MYTH Professional Monitor Color Calibration
CPU Intel Core i7-2960XM 2.70GHz, 1600MHz DDR3, 8MB Cache, Socket G1 Mobile Processor
Thermal Compound Free IC Diamond Thermal Compound
MYTHLOGIC Exalted Overclocking Free MYTHLOGIC Exalted Mobile Overclocking | Requires 2920XM Processor
System Memory 32GB (4 x 8GB) , PC3-10600, 1333MHz SODIMM Quad Core Processors Only! (Samsung)
Video Adapter NVIDIA Quadro FX5010m 4096MB GDDR5 DX11 Compliant Professional Video Card
3D Glasses 2 Pair of 3D Glasses for use with Nyx 1711 w/ 3D Ready Screen
Optical Swap Out Optical drive for additional Hard Drive
Bay Accessories Optional Hard Drive Caddy for Optical Bay (Standalone)
External Optical Drive Asus External USB Powered BDR Drive (Blue)
RAID [Requires Identical Hard Drive Selections] None
Hard Drive 1 Intel 600GB 320 Series SATA II 3Gb/s Solid State Drive
Hard Drive 2 Intel 600GB 320 Series SATA II 3Gb/s Solid State Drive
Hard Drive 3 Intel 600GB 320 Series SATA II 3Gb/s Solid State Drive
Headset Logitech G35 7.1 surround sound USB Gaming Headset
Mouse None
Webcam Integrated 2M Webcam
Fingerprint Reader Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Network Card Onboard Gigabit (10/100/1000 Mbits/sec) LAN subsystem
Wireless Card Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module 350MB Total Bandwidth
Bluetooth Integrated Bluetooth 3.0+EDR Only With Intel 1030/6230 Wireless
Operating System Windows 7 Ultimate
Anti-Virus Software Microsoft Security Essentials
Productivity Microsoft Office Professional 2010
Extra Battery Extra Battery
Extra AC Adapter Extra AC Adapter
Laptop Sleeve | MYTHLOGIC Recommends SLAPPA Gear SLAPPA 18" Ballistix PTAC Matrix Sleeve with Shoulder Strap
Laptop Case | MYTHLOGIC Recommends SLAPPA Gear SLAPPA 17" HardBody PRO Laptop Case
Notebook Cooler NZXT Cryo LX 120mm Fan Aluminum Notebook Cooler - Black
Laptop Soundbar Philips Notebook SoundBar SPA5210B/27
MYTHLOGIC Assurance MYTH Lifetime Assurance with 4 Years Labor + 3 Year Parts Warranty, 3 Yr Free 2-Way Shipping Canada
Phoenix Upgrade Plan Lifetime Phoenix Upgrade Plan
Total Price:$13,586.84

 

Hey RS,

So just to be clear you are a Sager, not a Clevo for revisions? Or does it matter when it not the BIOS?

 

I got the sound driver for the realtek sound system from SAGER. I will NOT reflash the BIOS at anytime in the future unless it was a. From sager and b. It was as safe as rooting a nook color to honeycomb...

 

You're mostly welcome and sure you will love this machine,

Could you please post your bios and ec versions once you get hold of your system? I just want to know since our systems are similar.

 

As Garth might put it: " I'm not worthy".

Guess I will remain in the : " Don't nobody touch nuthin"-mode for awhile longer then.....

Hmm, up late once again. Where's my grindage Pauli? Wrote an offer to buy a house today! Nibiru missed us, whew.

Now back to the topic.....

 

I keep the system plugged in all the time and I wonder whether I should remove or keep the battery in my laptop.
In the manual they recommend keeping it in. however, I have read few articles stating otherwise.
Any advise? I just want to keep a healthy battery for those days I need it most.

 

Charz since you are still up this late.....

A Sony laptop I had (& returned for credit, but that is another story) had a neat battery app that allowed one to set the maximum level of charge that would be delivered. IMS, they recommended an 80% charge for times when the lifetime that yielded, would suit your needs. Occasionally a 100% charge and maximum discharge was to be done. They had graphs that showed a longer and more stable lifetime. I'm just saying.

Love to have an app like that for my Satori !!

In the meantime, I take the Clevo battery to 8% from time to time and keep it charging most of the time.

 

Dude, it's still morning where I live now...

Yea, the app you mentioned is quite interesting for sure. I really wanna know if keeping a battery at 70-75% charge in a cold place is better than leaving it continuously charging in a plugged in laptop.

 

IMHO, if your are going to 24/7 using via the psu adapter, just take out the battery. though the lest palm area might feel kinda weird since there are no support when the battery are taken out.

to fix that issue, i just use external keyboard.

 

If you pay with cash we can give you a 3% discount making that: $13179.23 and we can probably throw in some free shipping too So what do I have to do (besides give you $13K) to get you into this laptop today? :laugh:

 

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These are my current BIOs settings. I presume these are out-dated?

 

Does anyone know if there is a way to make Fn+5 "stick" on permanently? I sometimes forget to press it right away, and wish that it would automatically be enabled on logon. What about a scripted solution added to the logon script, run from the Startup folder as a batch file or run as a Scheduled Task? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

I am a Sager and will only accept sager updates. period.

 

Dude! You are such a car salesman. Wife said I can go ahead when we win the looot!

 

That is my exact BIOS version

 

Is anybody using the built-in "Microsoft eHome Infrared Transceiver" with Windows Media Center in Windows 7 64-bit? Will any Windows 7 compatible MCE IR remote work, or do I need to look for something specific? What brand/model of remote are you using that is fully functional? Thanks!

 

If you're referring to the IR port on the front of the laptop, that is a "manufacturer select" kind of option that is normally disabled by Sager when they order these machines. However, if you have a type of USB stick with IR functionality you should be able to do it

 

I was indeed referring to that port, but it would appear that it is not disabled - since these two device drivers are installed and enabled under Human Interface Devices:

. ITECIR Infrared Receiver (EC)
. Microsoft eHome Infrared Transceiver

And this device driver is installed and enabled under Keyboards:

. Microsoft eHome Remote Control Keyboard keys

Or did you mean that there's no physical internal connector from the motherboard to the IR port on the front of the case? If that is what you meant, can a connector be installed?

Thanks!

 

I can clock down the CPU, any way to clock down the GPU?

 

In the NVIDIA Control Panel, Under Performance - Device Settings - Clock Speeds. Choose Custom and move the slider(s) as desired.