*** Official Sager NP8170/Clevo P170HM Owners Lounge ***

It has been mentioned before but basically: yes if you game the 6970M will most likely clean the floor with the GTX 560M mostly because the 560M is just a high performance card and not really a "gaming" card, at the very least you wont be able to run new games maxed out on the 560M while the 6970M will give you a very nice frame rate on most recent games ^^

However, if you plan to play only WoW, then both cards should be able to play it with no issues at all =)

 

No need to be too hard on yourself. We all have done similar things over the years.
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Since I already had a 4gb stick that was compatible with my new Satori, I ordered it with the 8gb (2x4gb) option and added my memory right after I received & tested it. Shortly after that I was on Crucial's website & was delighted to see that the memory prices were, IMS, about $40 for the 4gb stick that this machine uses. So I am @ 16 gb.

I use CS5.5, it loves & utilizes memory. Also, I performed the GPU card hack that enables the CUDA cores to be utilized in Premiere Pro (the Mercury Playback thing) and I'm well pleased. If you go with a nVidia card, I could dig up the link again for the hack, it is a simple text edit on the list of "supported cards" that PPro looks at each time it starts.

I don't have any input on the gaming side of things, not my thing.

 

My 8170 through xotic has shipped!! I can't wait to fire it up as my current machine is about to bite the big one. Just in time. Hopefully we have some float plane flights out to where I live so it doesn't sit in town for too long. The joys of living remote in alaska.......

 

how much is the coverage of the monitor ( srgb and adobergb ) ?

 

Would you mind explaining a little more? Thanks.
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I picked up a NP8170 with an i7-2720qm, 8gb ram, 6990m, and crucial m4 ssd. It seems to do quite well, but does get warm when using the gpu. After about 10 minutes of Crysis this is what my temps look like:



What is the difference between the GPU temp, and the higher temps down below? Above 100 C sounds warm.

 

That is a dangerous temperature.

I suggest you reapply the thermal paste, I think it was a botched job at the factory..

 

Those temps are very high. The 6990m runs warm, but temps over 95C are an issue and over 100C are unacceptable. Are you using it on a hard flat surface? You can also try raising the back edge of the laptop, running the fans at full speed (FN + 1), and repasting the CPU/GPU (as a last resort).

Also try contacting your retailer for support as well

 

It's on a hard surface.

Rising the back helped a bit:



It's hooked up to an external monitor and the lid is closed, that might be part of it.

 

Hitting FN 1 helped even more:



I does seem to oscillate a little bit though. Every 5-10 seconds the fan blips down in its speed, anyone else have this?

 

What is the date of the original purchase? The latest bios-EC package addresses the fans as to when they go on and such.

Do you have the latest? You might check with your dealer or reseller.
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That is also a contributing factor. The machine does get a bit of ventilation through the keyboard. Try leaving the screen open at least a little bit as well. Not only that, but the external monitor will cause the GPU to ramp up a bit more even on idle, so it's not helping temps any either.

That's normal, it's part of how the EC controls the fans. The latest Bios/EC cut down on that, but it's always going to be present. It's less noticeable when you're at full load though.

 

Thanks for the info. Idle temps running two 1080p external monitors are around 60C.

 

cmor - pardon me but what do you use to run 2 external monitor? via the hdmi and the dvi port?

 

Hi is there a way to stop the fans from cycling when idel? I have the latest bios and ec...

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/416916-clevo-bios-thread-187.html#post7993138

 

Just a note: It is highly recommended if you have a Sager branded NP8170, you should stay with the bios-EC upgrades that are available through your dealer or reseller.
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You can do two external monitors that way, but only if you disable the onboard screen. The laptop only supports a maximum of 2 displays at one time. If you want more than that you'd need a Matrox or something similar.

 

how much colour space ( in adobe rgb , and in srgb mode ) can show the 3d monitor ?

 

Thank you. Hopefully others will chime in here as I do not have this data.
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That is so cool, two screens, can you send a pic of your setup. Do you use HDMI AND the digital out of the back?

 

72% NTSC color gamut. No idea about adobe rgb or srgb.

 

Thank you! Is there a difference though in taking 8gb of the 1,600 vs 12gb of the 1,333?

 

Without having test results of the different configs...... here is my take on this:

More memory at a slower clock is more valuable for me. That is because my apps like memory. In a perfect world (that is to say, if I had unlimited funds) I would go for both speed & capacity. Adobe apps use all the memory that you give them "permission" to use.

GAMERS might chime in here & state how the faster memory could affect the games they play. I have no data on that.

 

Great answer, thank you

 

Made a thread about the different speeds and also googled a bit some days ago:

It isn't worth the money to upgrade for the faster RAM.. more RAM (more than 8GB) might be useful depending on what you do (virtual machines, editing stuff, CAD,...).

 

Everyone is right.

For a gaming machine you want the fastest possible Mhz and timing. (these days 8GB is plenty)

For a Video/Pic editing/rendering machine you want the Most possbible.

All money price/performance but aside, get both!

 

Thanks again guys, hope to order tonight. I appreciate the assistance.

 

I agree. For gaming in the Sandy Bridge machines, 8GB is a great spot. Only when doing heavy Photoshop, video editing with large files, and the like, etc, would I opt for 12 or 16GB.
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or if you have a tiny SSD main drive have 16gb of ram so you can turn off your swap file.. =) Probably wouldn't do it if i actually had plans for all 16gb however

 

I personally opted for 8Gb of 1333MHz with a moderate latency configured as (4x) 2Gb SO-DIMM's hoping to let the quad core processor access it faster. It also happened to be the least expensive option due to the current promo. Still in build Stage 2 @ XoticPC, so I cannot comment on performance as of yet.

Side note: I know this system's power brick is going to be big, but does amyone have a pic of it next to anything else for reference?

 

Well i bought 4x 4GB Kingston HyperX 1600 Mhz (PnP version) and they run insanely fast, and runs very stable, no issues at all!

Having 16GB of ram is awesome for everything! and in my opinion a cheap upgrade!

 

You can find the pic here
Review Schenker XMG P701 PRO Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews
The 220-Watt AC adapter is as long as a DVD case.

I hope that if I'm wrong some of the owners can correct me.

 

Its not bad, i have it on the floor the whole time anyway so im not seeing it when i use my laptop, and its easy to get into my 17" backpack when moving my laptop around!

Yeah it might be bigger than standard AC Adapters, but i think its fine as it is, no problems there and still keep in mind that this laptop uses a lot of power for those high-end components!

 

Yes this memory has been running well in many of machines!
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My 8170 got delivered to our company office today. Now I just have to wait for a flight to bring it out to me!!! Perfect timing as my current machine is on its last thread of life. I am thinking maybe pull whatever components I can out of the old machine and give it a proper burial. With a seal bomb.

 

Hi i ve installed the new 10.10v3 driver and it seemed to have increased my idle temp. also my gpu temp 2 seems to be warmer than the others by 5-6C underload. i,e when the rest is on 85 or 8- gpu temp 2 will on 90C. but it read that overall its at 85...

 

Hello, i just have one doubt woud like to see other owners opinion:
I have the NP8170 with the 2760qm and the hd6990m.

If i try to play when i`m on battery, i set that litle laptop icon on tray to Performance, and also the windows battery icon on tray to high performance,
then i start playing, and right when the Fans try to kick a higher speed the laptop shuts down imediattely. When on ac power is everything normal, no shutdowns.

Obviously, the battery alone can't supply enough energy to keep the machine powered on and it shuts down, just want to know if its normal or if i should worry or complain with the seller....

Obs, if i play on battery with that laptop icon on tray set to balanced, there's no shutdowns, but performance isn't the same, looks like the processor becomes crippled....

 

The issue of the performance becoming severely crippled on battery is normal. The battery cannot provide enough power to keep everything running at full throttle, so the system throttles.

However, as far as the system powering off completely, that doesn't sound normal to me, but I could be mistaken as I've only had my 8170 for a little while now. None of the other laptops I've had did anything like that however.

 

Now its time to test what this thing can do

Time for Battlefield 3

 

Yes, others laptops i had also didn't do this,
I think its not normal.

 

It may be shutting down to protect the battery. Set to High Performance, you're forcing the GPU to ask for ~100W, and the battery may be saying "Hell No!"

 

yes, i think thats exactely whats happening, the battery can't stand for the system full power.

But, as mostly i won't play on battery, and even if the system didn't shutdown when using full power on battery i should get around 40 minutes before it drains, i won't make any complain about that.

The system is great, i just found that strange...

 

Just let the computer run og low power consumption when on battery and you will be fine the battery can not deliver that amount of watts the system requires on full load!

 

Anyone else have the above temp increase with this driver?
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I had a green screen of death show up today. I was playing BF3 when the game shutdown and my screen went totally green. I was using an external 1080p monitor through the HDMI port. I tried alt tabbing, alt ctrl del and got no where, unplugged the hdmi, replugged back in and everything was ok. I've been watching my temps because they were high to begin with, but lately the gpu has been staying below 90. Any ideas what this was?

 

What graphics card are you running? I've seen that happen to my screen when the Nvidia display driver "stopped responding" and reset. Unplugging and replugging the monitor seems to indicate that something like that happened, but it's hard to be sure.

 

6990m. It hasn't recurred since, hopefully it was just a minor hiccup like you suggested.

 

Pilares, by chance are you running 1.00.08 ec in your BIOS?

This is a known faulty ec which causes high fan speed at idle and also reboots/shutsdown notebook.

I downgraded my ec to 1.00.06 and the notebook is super dooper..
Let us know what you find.