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    *** Official Sager NP8180 / Clevo P180HM Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ryan, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    There is now a NP8180 release, or the clevo's namesake P180HM.

    Resellers are welcome to add information to this thread corresponding to the model.

    :D
     
    Ryan, Sep 15, 2011
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  2. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Nice! We'll add some info on this model shortly.
     
    MALIBAL, Sep 15, 2011
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  3. klaus_2011

    klaus_2011 Notebook Geek

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    Nice to see a P180HM owners lounge :)

    Let's start posting all the namesakes:
    - Clevo P180HM
    - Sager NP8180
    - Schenker XMG P801
    - DevilTech HellMachine (this one is certainly my favorite name :D )
    - ONE T2200
    - Kobalt G180
    - BTO X•BOOK 18CL36
    - Bullman Grand i7 Extreme 18

    This list is probably not complete, but those are the namesakes I've found so far...
     
    klaus_2011, Sep 15, 2011
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  4. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    Here you go! Below are the specs and some pics of the NEW Sager NP8180 or Clevo P180HM, starting at around $1,689.00. Or for NBR people even less! :)


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    Larry@LPC-Digital, Sep 15, 2011
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  5. Justin@XoticPC

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    It is up for order now :)
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Sep 15, 2011
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  6. trvelbug

    trvelbug Notebook Prophet

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    only one gpu choice?
     
    trvelbug, Sep 16, 2011
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  7. daevilwithin

    daevilwithin Notebook Enthusiast

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    18.4" is huge, I doubt I can fit it into any backpack o_O
     
    daevilwithin, Sep 16, 2011
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  8. klaus_2011

    klaus_2011 Notebook Geek

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    Yes

    Some resellers offer a fitting backpack as an optional accessory :D
     
    klaus_2011, Sep 16, 2011
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  9. Mr_Mysterious

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    Holy wow...Any news on the weight?

    If I had to guess, it'd be like 10lbs x.x

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, Sep 16, 2011
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  10. klaus_2011

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    According to the specs the weight is
    So you'll need to add the weight of the disks (up to 3).
     
    klaus_2011, Sep 16, 2011
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    I'll add this device to my guide when it's official :D

    My take: Not for moi, but it will fill a few peoples' needs. So...good job, Clevo! Diversifying and expanding your market is always a good idea :)

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, Sep 16, 2011
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  12. klaus_2011

    klaus_2011 Notebook Geek

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    It won't take long - I have ordered the monster today :D
     
    klaus_2011, Sep 16, 2011
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  13. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    In less than a week this baby will be shipping. :)
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Sep 16, 2011
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  14. soundsyst64

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    It lacks the choices of graphics card :(
     
    soundsyst64, Sep 16, 2011
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  15. Mr_Mysterious

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    Come on...this is clevo. Of course it's upgradeable! :p

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, Sep 16, 2011
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  16. Donald@Paladin44

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    Oh darn, it only has DUAL nVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M 192bit w/1.5GB GDDR5 in SLi...and for under $1,700.00 :eek:

    I guess if that is the only complaint we are doing OK...eh? :p
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Sep 17, 2011
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  17. Alim Custom Computer

    Alim Custom Computer Company Representative

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    This thing is a beast!
     
    Alim Custom Computer, Sep 18, 2011
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  18. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    Welcome
    Be sure to read the forum rules before continuing to post
    Take note of the Reseller Rules
     
    Alex, Sep 18, 2011
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  19. genocidew

    genocidew Notebook Evangelist

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    i really hope this machine come with higher configuration of gpu and add on PSU just like the x7200, IF possible :D
     
    genocidew, Sep 19, 2011
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  20. Thisisalamp

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    Looks like a battleship :D

    Like everyone has mentioned, seems lacking with GPU choices. Wondering why the 580m/6990m isn't included right at the beginning; lucrative and attractive if they were included.
     
    Thisisalamp, Sep 19, 2011
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  21. klaus_2011

    klaus_2011 Notebook Geek

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    So far I've found about 10 resellers offering the P180HM and none of them sells it with a more powerful GPU. This suggests that perhaps the barebone has some kind of technical limitations - heat and power restrictions maybe?

    On the other hand: One of the resellers (EvolutionsX) offers the option of buying it without GPU, which suggests that you could buy & install a GPU by yourself (which is probably not an easy thing to do).
     
    klaus_2011, Sep 19, 2011
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  22. supralover23

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    Or a financially prudent thing to do :)
    How would the dual 560m's compare to the single 6990m?
     
    supralover23, Sep 19, 2011
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  23. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    It has to do with the power threshold of the system. At this time Clevo has designed this with the 220W Power Adapter, thus any dual GPU setup would have to meet that.

    The 580M, 6990M does not in a dual configuration. :)
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    Larry@LPC-Digital, Sep 19, 2011
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  24. imabrokendownload

    imabrokendownload Newbie

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    Hi there, I just bought a brand new notebook (Sager NP8180-Gaming Laptop) from Powernotebooks.com after searching through forum after forum for great deals for atleast month. They had wonderful prices, definitely beating any competition that ive come across, and gave me free shipping.
     
    imabrokendownload, Sep 20, 2011
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  25. Donald@Paladin44

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    According to Notebookcheck.net DUAL nVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M cards in SLi are a bit faster than a single Radeon HD 6990M.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Sep 20, 2011
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    Hrmmm, I was tempted by this new Clevo P180HM, and I was thinking back and forth about single higher ranking gpus over two smaller gpus in SLi.
    SLi GTX 560M vs. single GTX 485M, GTX 580M and Radeon 6990M.
    And I may just go with a single GPU note book my self, considering SLi almost always involves special driver treatment, one game may favor SLi more than another, results may vary, and blah blah.
     
    JADabandon, Sep 21, 2011
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  27. harmattan

    harmattan Notebook Evangelist

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    It does say the GPUs are "user upgradeable", so I'd expect you could plop in two 580m or 6990s. Hopefully, the higher-end cards become a standard option because I see no reason to get dual 560s over a single 6990 or 580m.

    The PSU is 300w which could likely handle the higher cards unlike the x7200 which had the power suck of a desktop CPU to deal with.

    We knew Clevo was coming out with a high-end Sandy Bridge contendor... my questions would be 1) is there switchable graphics 2) what's the battery life? 3) what's the display like 4) what's the build quality/hardware like?

    The use of the same old, non-backlit keyboard is decidedly unfortunate.
     
    harmattan, Sep 21, 2011
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  28. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    @ harmattan, this unit only has a 220W PSU unfortunately.

    Also I will be shocked if Clevo incorporates switchable graphics for this upcoming beast.

    We all hope for a top of the line display, a 120Hz.... we hope.

    As far as the build quality if we go by what Clevo has done in the past with these desktop CPU systems, it should be solid, built well. This is what many say about the x7200 now... :)
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    Larry@LPC-Digital, Sep 21, 2011
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    lzykocp1002 Notebook Consultant

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    a x8100 was being sold by resellers with 2 x 6970m, the problem for me is not whether you trigger the psu shutdown, every system can go OVER the recommended point, the problem for me is if the bios officially supports the cards 485m/580m

    can one of the resellers in here take 10 minutes out of there time and just put in a 485m/580m and boot up into bios really quick, just confirm if it's detected, hell if you want boot both into windows and just confirm that sli option is there.

    that's the bottom line question at the moment, what cards does the bios support, only way is to test, resellers can clarify this if they put in the cards in the system and check


    edit: o btw what panel does the barebones from clevo come with n184h6-???

    edit2: also resellers of the x8100 had options for 470m,480m, but not for sli(maybe they didn't want to take a gamble on shutdown during load) point is that the 470m/480m must have had bios support, otherwise they would have ran into the 2gb ram limit issue like i did when i poped in a 485m, it's very possible this motherboard can support newer cards.
     
    lzykocp1002, Sep 22, 2011
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  30. Thisisalamp

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    ^Same observation here.

    My reseller is actually selling NP8180 with 2x580Ms...so I was wondering how is that going to work out.
     
    Thisisalamp, Sep 22, 2011
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  31. harmattan

    harmattan Notebook Evangelist

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    With a 220w psu, and if the motherboard can't support a higher watt psu, dual 560ms is about as high as you could go.

    I don't see the point of this laptop :confused: I suppose if you REALLY wanted an 18" screen, but didn't want to shell out $2000 for an x7200...
     
    harmattan, Sep 22, 2011
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    i don't believe that theory at all, nobody has TESTED, a gpu doesnt consume 100w power all the time, plus that's just a default threshold, it will consume less, not to mention it's very likely to operate over required power usages, depending on quality of the board

    if your reseller is selling a 580m, that mean's that the bios detects the card, which is a huge plus, however it also might mean your reseller didnt get stock of barebones yet and is assuming, again no tests only speculation.
     
    lzykocp1002, Sep 22, 2011
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    By ,"adding information" does that mean that you will be building the 8180? If so can you give an approximation of what, "shortly" is?
     
    Blade49, Sep 22, 2011
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    you referring to me? i don't recognize those quotes. Right now nothing has been officially released or shipped out so i'm not building anything ATM, if the bios supports other graphics cards, would be very informative, and would enable sli/crossfire.
     
    lzykocp1002, Sep 22, 2011
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  35. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    No one is saying that the 580M, 6990M or others will not work in this machine, it is that Clevo will not back it with support at this time. It is a warranty thing.

    I suppose if a individual reseller wants to use those higher end GPU's then they are on there own. This is my understanding. :)
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    Larry@LPC-Digital, Sep 22, 2011
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    I am buying it because I want a laptop with 18" + 3 harddrive bays + BluRay Burner :) Regarding the GPU, for me personally a 560M SLI is more than enough.
     
    klaus_2011, Sep 22, 2011
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  37. lzykocp1002

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    nobody can say anything period, nobody knows, however facts do remain at the moment currently it's all about the bios, reseller can put in a different card, but if no bios support prepare to have a crippled system, like x8100 was with unknown vga card.

    warranty or no warranty will not change the bios supporting the cards or not. thats what i would definitely like to find out, but i guess waiting game...

    edit: i wonder would your company be willing to try out different model cards in the p180hm next week :)
     
    lzykocp1002, Sep 22, 2011
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    Clevo should just have made it with a 330 watt PSU like Alienware does with their M18, then the problems would be solved, cause if this baby had the support of 2x GTX 580s, then i would absolutely have bought it.
     
    Delpan, Sep 23, 2011
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    Who is your reseller?
     
    kMaN_(KYA), Sep 24, 2011
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  40. Mr_Mysterious

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    ^ I'm pretty sure that Thisisalamp's reseller is LBO (Logical Blue One) in Australia.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, Sep 24, 2011
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  41. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    This is interesting...I wonder if your reseller is using a different PSU.

    The 220w one that Clevo is sending out with this machine will not support the Dual, SLI 580M's or the CrossFireX AMD 6990M's.

    These cards themselves pull 200w when under any load let alone what the CPU, Display and other components need. :eek:
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    Larry@LPC-Digital, Sep 24, 2011
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  42. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Yup, even with a 330W there's a chance of hitting a PSU limit if you begin overclocking the cards and CPU.
     
    Aikimox, Sep 28, 2011
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    so did anybody get a np8180 yet, nothing is uncertain until it's tested, by the way can one of the resellers answer a small question what panel is the p180hm equipped with,

    you can download hwinfo32/64 and it will give the display model number. i'm guessing a n184h6-l02(wondering what revision)
     
    lzykocp1002, Oct 1, 2011
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  44. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    I can check on Monday about the exact model of the display. It totally escaped me to do so earlier... :eek:
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Oct 1, 2011
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    use hwinfo32/64 and run it, there will be a monitors tab, just expand it and take a screenshot if you can, it'll display the exact panel that the p180hm is equipped with, as well as week, date etc etc
     
    lzykocp1002, Oct 1, 2011
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  46. Ryan

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    Believe in Larry, he's a pro.

    :D
     
    Ryan, Oct 2, 2011
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    i'm just stating the software, i'm not aware of any other software that shows such accurate detail of the lcd panel down to the week of manufacturing, so he'll most likely use that.
     
    lzykocp1002, Oct 3, 2011
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    Since this little baby is pretty new, i'm having trouble finding some information about it.
    How's the heat?
    It seems that 560m sli is ahead of single 6990M but what about heat dissipation in the P180HM?
     
    Farad77, Oct 4, 2011
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    jml00a Notebook Guru

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    Those "gaming buttons" on the side seem...odd and out of the way. Anyone have one yet and are they individual buttons or do they alter the original keyboard keys like holding ctrl or shift in some games?
     
    jml00a, Oct 5, 2011
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  50. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    You might check in the below thread for info on the gaming buttons. The x8100-NP8120 has the same layout.

    Sager is out of stock on these for a week or so. Sorry. :(

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo-reviews-owners-lounges/459920-x8100-sager-8120-owners-thread.html
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Oct 5, 2011
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