Ok -- I have made at least some measure of progress by turning off the "Click Lock" function in the Mouse Properties. Most of the items listed were resolved in deselecting that item. As soon as I saw it I knew I selected this to "try it out", but then had directed all my troubleshooting efforts into the Elantech settings and options when everything suddenly was noticeably going haywire. The "Click Lock" may in fact be useful with a mouse -- but it is hell's own nightmare re: touchpad functionality. For example, Cut/Paste wouldn't work because the "Click Lock" requires an additional click to "set" the selection of highlighted text -- rather than just highlighting and CTRL +C etc. Which I now understand from first experiencing the behavior then subsequently re-reading the description.
A good idea would entail a function which allowed a user to see a clickable listing of all settings which have been changed in the last 24-48 hours-- 7 days etc. So that users could try features with which they might not be familiar -- without having to then rely solely on their own recall to wade through for instance-- the four distinct and variously located utilities within which are contained several subsidiary blocks housing dozens of sometimes overlapping settings related simply to mouse and touchpad functionality in the ATIV 9 alone. But I won't hold my breath.
Thanks for the input and feedback all. I'll be back with more queries I'm sure.
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I get it. I am not so well organized about my install folders but you may have shamed me into clearing them out from time to time so this will be a good habit to get into.
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I suggest just simply exporting your HKCU\Software\Elantech\SmartPadDisplay key from RegEdit to a .REG file (select key, File-Export). Then open that .REG file in Notepad (right-click .REG file, Edit) and change all dword:00000000 values to dword:00000001 and save. Simple as that, it'll take less than 5 mins. Now, anytime you want to use ETDAniConf, just run (Merge) that .REG file first.
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Hi everyone
I'm pretty sure this issue has probably already been discussed and I apologize in advance for that, but since I couldn't find an answer I thought I would ask the question again.
What browsers are folks using on their AB9+ with the QHD display setting? Here's my take:
--Chrome--
Speed: Excellent
Two finger scrolling: Very Good
Text rendering: Average
-- Firefox --
Speed: Good
Two finger scrolling: Very laggy / unusable
Text rendering: Excellent
-- Internet Explorer --
Speed: Slowish
Two finger scrolling: Excellent
Text rendering: Excellent
To me, text rendering and 2 finger scrolling are the most important features so I'm stuck with using IE (even though its a little slow) since Firefox is awful for two finger trackpad scrolling and Chrome has poor text rendering compared to IE even with hidpi scaling enabled.
Does everyone feel the same way? Has anyone managed to get Chrome to REALLY work as well as IE or Firefox in QHD mode?
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Is / has anyone else had a problem with their keyboard--- namely keys not working on the first depress? I have to hit -- especially the space bar with a full intentional mindful stroke in order for it to execute on depress. Any thoughts beyond a hardware issue?
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Well they all have the same settings but I do think the yellow patch was installed now how do we uninstall it.
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I'm having some problems with the mouse cursor when trying to play games on this laptop.
In some eg. Dota 2, in any resolution other than native the size of the cursor goes really large, its still playable, but hugely offputting.
In another (Dawn of War 1) the cursor goes away entirely, invisible, making it unplayable.
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I'm looking for a 512GB M.2 SSD and there's not a lot of choice.
The reviews of the Crucial M550 didn't look great for idle power consumption.
I can't see any evidence of the Crucial MX100 M.2 being released soon.
Various others such as the Toshiba HG6 are impossible to obtain.
There's a fairly new Transcend MTS800 512GB SSD stocked by a few places, but I can't find any reviews. Does anyone have any experience of this one, or any others that are worth buying?
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so got my mini hdmi to hdmi adapter which cost like 2 bucks on ebay sucks that Samsung couldn't just put a full hdmi and don't include the adapter for a 1300 dollar computer might cost them like a dollar I mean they think Ethernet is more important. I bet they didn't want to pay the hdmi royalty twice or something like that.
Anyway scaling on my second 1080p monitor is just stupid, IE which I already knew does this can't seem to figure out a decent resolution so if my laptop is at 250 zoom the 1080p it somehow guess that 375 would be great which makes no kind of sense. And the toolbar/titlebar for ie is super large but explorer and other programs are normal I don't get it. -
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My concluding advice for all notebook owners is to check their battery health before the end of the warranty period (normally 1 year for batteries). Also keep a copy of any advertising claims about the battery longevity.
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Mine doesn't turn yellows into mustard on battery either. I have read in places that even with the fix for that installed that it would leave the color inaccuracies on battery simply because correctly rendering bright colors does increase power usage, but I'm not sure that's true - ie, that even with the fix installed you should still be getting mustard yellows on battery. Something worth playing with to see if any settings materially change battery usage would be to change the color settings in the Samsung "Settings" control panel (Fn/F1). I tend to leave mine on "Movie Bright" because I just like the brightest possible screen and I find the AB9+ to have disappointingly low brightness at maximum and visually the "movie bright" setting seems to tweak the brightness of the backlight a bit. But you might want to pick the setting that visually shows the most dim looking image and check the impact of that on battery run time - **
A few other things if you're looking to maximize battery run time**:
1) use that Samsung "Settings" control panel (FN/F1) and under Power Management check the "Eco Mode" box. I'm not entirely sure what it does beyond lowering screen brightness (which you can offset by using the FN/F3 to re-brighten to your preference), but I would guess it does a number of the kinds of things you can do manually in Power settings on the Windows power control panel, some of the most useful of which for me have been:
1) Set wifi and graphics to "Maximum Power Saving"
2) Set cooling to "Passive"
3) Set maximum processor to around 30%
And, in Intel Graphics control panel, reduce screen refresh rate from default 60hz to 40 hz (only other setting available) - this alone can get you close to an hour more run time, depending on how much video you are running. What's best about this one is that, even if you are watching video, you really won't notice a difference unless you're watching very high fps "action" video or sports, and even then it will probably be negligible.
I would guess that some of the things the Samsung "Eco Mode" setting does are included in my list above (which is not exhaustive, btw, there are plenty of articles you can Google to get many more, though I think these - particularly the screen brightness - are the most useful.
** For any adjustments you may want to try to increase battery run times you will be most successful if you have a good utility that shows - in close to real time - the effect on wattage drawn of any incremental change you try. I find Battery Bar entirely inadequate for this task; it takes as much as several minutes to recalculate power consumption and not only is that like watching paint dry, but by the time it registers change in power draw other things going on in the background may be changing power consumption as much as the step you took to reduce it. I am very impressed with a battery/power real time "dashboard" that shows you - in 30 second intervals if you wish! - what your power consumption is and to quickly see the impact on power consumption of incremental changes, such as lowering screen darkness, reducing number of open browser windows, even engaging the Eco Mode (something I keep meaning to do but haven't!). It's called BatteryInfoView and you don't install it, just run it once and pin it to your taskbar, desktop or wherever is convenient.
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Yeah for me 9 hours is good, but have not hit that yet maybe 7 1/2 I measure because I work on my laptop all day so I start at 8am and just see how long it can get. I usually am always streaming music or my slingbox brightness is almost all the way down because I work in the dark almost. Its better that my vizio which got like 5 but not MacBook level. I gave up on the yellows thing because I must of installed the patch thinking it was something else but yellows are really yellow on my screen same as when power is plugged in. I am just learned that there was a fn lock totally overlooked that was upset Samsung didn't have a utility but this is better.
Only issue for me is just stupid windows dpi scaling and running at full resolution 3200x1800 it just works for some things others do not. If remote desktop worked perfect I would be not as upset I have to use remote connection manager which is almost the same just have to do some tweaks. Kinda should of got the 8gb model as I am almost maxing out ram and running hyper v will be an issue later for me doing a lot. I mean I am used to it my vizio was the same 4gb 128gb ssd. I would by an bigger ssd but I know it will cause the fans to kick in more as it will get hotter same thing happened to me when I bought the Samsung evo for my vizio. This is why Samsung don't even use there own ssd in this laptop Toshiba's run cooler by a few degrees.
two apps I found and love are mysms so you can my calls and sms from your computer and all your devices are all sync'd and hyper youtube which lets me stream youtube and only play audio. Even though I have been using windows 8 since it came it out I really see it's pretty good they just gotta fix these dpi issues and so do people like adobe I don't want to run at lower resolution. -
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If not, then it may not be properly connecting electronically.
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Hi
Haven't posted on here in a while and not sure if this is the right place but here goes....
Am looking to get my son a new laptop for school and want one that will last the school day, so around 6 hrs i guess.
Last year got my wife a Chronos 7 Series with touchscreen - awesome laptop, can't fault it, especially the 10hr battery life. Anyway, have my eye on an Ativ Book 9 for my son but can't decide between the Lite and the Plus. I know the AB9+ is way better than the Lite (similar to the chronos in many ways) but it is TWICE the price of the Lite. If it was for me I'd have to have the AB9+ because I do a lot of heavy stuff in work and would need the extra power but my son is only going to use it for email, internet, and some school project stuff which mainly means light use of office applications. He's not a gaming freak either so no need to worry about that.
It's the classic dilemma of Heart (AB9+) -v- Head (Lite)!!
Advice/comments appreciated.
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Hahahahahahahaha.
I think I've found a counter-intuitive but effective solution to heat and noise.
Steps:
(1) Get your scotch tape out.
(2) Block the air vents underneath the chassis with the tape.
(3) ????
(4) Profit!
I've learned the fan noise is primarily caused by the air sucking into the fans from the underneath the chassis.
so blocking it helps to get rid of the noise.
Also, blocking the air flowing from underneath the chassis actually helped the laptop to stay cooler.
The air underneath is not particularly cooler than the air inside. In fact, feeding the warm/hot air into the chassis was one reason why my laptop stayed hot. So while the lid is open, the hot air inside the laptop gets pushed out through the vents near the hinge, and no hot air is sucked into the device.
If you think about it, macbook airs have only one fan and they have no vents underneath the chassis.
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@lovelaptops how do you set the refresh rate to 40? I only see 60.
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currently, i just simply limit the max cpu utilization to 45%-65% instead of using a separate app like throttlestop.
for the time being, i noticed that only the left vent makes loud noise whereas the right vent does not, so i decided to keep blocking the left vent only, and no taping for the right vent.
unlike np900 series where the vents were placed more towards the edge of the laptop, the vents for np940x3g are placed way too center/middle of the bottom chassis -- not enough cool air flowing.
well those are just my thoughts. no scientific proof of course.
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the silent mode does NOT increase the fan kicking in threshold.
on battery fan kicks in at around 60'C
while plugged fan kicks in at around 56'C
regardless of which power option you choose: silent (low / auto) and off (+whichever profile)
I am more curious as to what you guys get for cpu temp.
I use realtemp to monitor the temp, and I see that even at idle, my cpu temp is at around 42-45'C and quickly reach 55'C, browing the web and beyond 60'C while playing 1080p youtube videos, and scrolling a lot.
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1) Silent Mode is ENABLED whenever it is set to AUTO or LOW. The CPU will be capped at it's lowest speed (regardless of Max CPU setting in the profile, unless ThrottleStop is used), and the Power Saver profile will be activated (switching to Passive system cooling). The difference between AUTO and LOW is only whether the fan is kept running at a permanent low speed (LOW) or turned on/off by temps (AUTO).
2) Silent Mode is DISABLED only when it is set to OFF in Settings (or toggled off with Fn-F11). This will un-throttle the CPU and revert to the Samsung Optimized profile (or whichever profile was used before Silent Mode was enabled).
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I've only had my AB9+ for two weeks and had yet to explore the Intel HD control panel and when I did, to give you "directions" I found that Samsung has taken away the 40hz leaving only 60, which is particularly weird because the color management cp has a drop down for refresh rate, but when you drop it down the only option is the defaut, 60hz! I know it's not a Windows 8/8.1 or Haswell thing, as I Too bad for us.
They took away the ability to drop color bandwidth from 32/16 bit and left it similarly stuck on 32 beginning, I believe, with Ivy Bridge/4000HD graphics adaptor settings; that too was a great power saver, though I usually did them both together (the 40hz and 16 bit) so I'm not really sure if one or the other plays a greater role in power reduction, but together they saved 10% - 20% power/battery usage and for the most part there was no noticeable change for the worse of the image/video display quality.
I'm guessing there is probably a registry hack for each of these settings, if not both, but I don't have an inclination right now to look into it - by all means, Google it if you are so inclined and let us know what you find. Just an aside, but there's a guy from Germany called "Pyr0" who used to be extremely active on he Sony forum, especially threads dealing with the "legendary" Z1 (Spring 2010) and Z2 (Summer 2012, I think - note: I still own and use almost daily the above-cited models. Anyway, Pyr0 is a very talented programmer who loves to tinker and hack and he found that there was a wealth of functionality adjustments "locked into" the BIOS of each of these and published BIOS hacks for each of the two models which allowed for all kinds of additional power settings, fan settings, screen adjustments, etc. I bring this up only to see if I can entice someone with the skill set, time available and desire to change the world, if only in a small way
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Though each mfr handles it differently, I have been amazed at how many options were hidden away in the BIOS/Windows registry, especially on Sony's (now a "former" computer mfr) premium models. Example: it turned out that the screen backlight settings for the Z1 (and only the Z1!) were incredibly conservative. There were 8 registry settings that enabled you to change the rate at which the backlight increased/decreased and the top setting was nearly 50% higher than the stock setting that the computers shipped with, which meant going from a top brightness of 280 nit to over 400! What's amazing is that I never read in any professional reviews about this capability and they all rated the maximum at around 280 nit. I have a hunch there is a similar way to "unleash" the full 350 nit brightness Samsung quotes in their lit when all the professional tests I have seen register around 260-280 max brightness.
Sorry to turn your simple question into a major "lecture" on the subject of hidden adjustments - and for having misled you in my earlier post about the ability to lower the refresh rate "easily." especially when I know of none - except the one that Dannemd provided as an adjunct to the standard Elan touchpad settings which is enormously useful.
I'll try to poke around Google, Anadtech and numerous high quality tech sites to see if I can't come up with a straightforward way.Best, Jeff
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Thanks for your response. Yea I like the hidden functions for Elan touchpad as well. I also made a few scripts to be loaded when making multi-finger gestures on the touchpad. Though, many functions were already built in as you could find inside the .ini file for the touchpad drivers, I needed a few extra.
Anyhow, monitor wise, I've tried pstrip, intel's custom resolution modder, and a few others but it turns out that given that Intel HD does not support direct write of some stuff (I already forgot) for changing monitor properties, I don't think we have an easy way to override the Intel/Samsung's defined options for the monitor.
Btw. I live close to Arlington, VA.
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FAN wise, I am just curious about whether having the Silent Mode enabled on LOW indeed lower the temp by at least one or two degrees.
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New device shows up as in my pictures and no further progress... still needing the cure all
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1) Try the adapter in different USB ports and/or on another computer.
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any thoughts on "horizontal" scrolling? i feel like i saw it working on my machine before, but now it is not working... horizontal scrolling is enabled in the ETDAniConf :/
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Webcam issue?
Hi,
I just got the Ativ 9 with the i7 processor to replace my aging 2010 macbook pro. Generally happy with it, but I am not sure that my webcam is working properly. The images are soft and slightly blurry. I couldnt find any settings in the camera app to adjust (other than aspect ratio and refresh rate). I compared it with my old macbook pro under same light and the Ativ 720p webcam has softer images than the macbook pro. I was hoping to get better image quality with the 720p webcam. I called the Samsung helpline and updated everything as they have suggested and made sure that the lens is clean. They logged into my machine, but said they cannot verify if the images are up to the mark. Is there any webcam settings (other than in skype or camera app) that I could try? Whats your experience with image quality on this machine?
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lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!
Blue NP940X3G??
I have recently come upon an ad for a "barely used" KO5 version - i7/8GB/256GB that a friend wanted my opinion on. For his benefit, I am not going to post the link until he decides go/nogo.
All of the questions were answered satisfactorily and the lister claims to be the first owner, etc.
When I asked about the odd bright blue (!) color in his photo (below) he said it is not from unusual lighting, but an accurate reflection (no pun intended!) of the color of the case, claims there were quite a few of them in the market earlier.
Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, Jeff
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2013 Ativ Book 9 Plus owner's lounge (NP940X3G)
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