I haven't paid the closest attention, but I didn't think any one particular model was identified as having consistent issues. Personally, I would go for 8GB as the RAM is NOT upgradable, but if you're sure you don't need it you could save some $. I don't think there's much point in stepping up to i7 over the 8GB i5 though, unless you find a good deal (we seem to be seeing more bargains recently) or don't want to deal with the lack of quality after market m.2 ssds.
Mmm. I like tacos too.
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UPDATE:
I was still weary about the no returns through eBay so I checked out the Microsoft Store because they have free returns. MS store has a deal for students on the S03US where you could bundle it with Office 365 and save $150, plus an additional 10% student discount. It came out to $1090.73 after taxes, which I think is a great deal. Hopefully it all goes well and I can officially join this thread!go45cvi likes this. -
lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!
The above notwithstanding, I would keep your eyes peeled for even better deals soon to come - possibly even from MS Store as we very soon get to back-to-school season - especially for the K03US model, which I've seen as low as $873 in the past month - again an open box but from a reputable reseller of primarily open box units, primarily first sold on MS Store but MS does not resell it's own returned open box models, but I know several people who purchased a number of these items (the supplier is Blinq.com) and it seems almost weekly that they - and a few others - are coming out with similar items (I believe the new, sealed in box ones are soon to follow) which, again, gives you 30 days to test and see if Samsung considers it unregistered and thus subject to full factory wtty. That's if a couple hundred dollars - and perhaps a few weeks' more wait - are of interest. I can well understand your deciding to keep this one you got, though, due to all the MS discounts and throwing in the Office Software. Just wanted to make you aware..
Finally, though I consider the 9 Plus to be a superior product, close on its heels is the Acer S7-392 (Haswell, i5/8GB/256GB (RAID0 900 sequential read/write, 2.6 lbs, QHD IPS screen, $849 for students from MS Store http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...425-Touchscreen-Ultrabook/productID.295782300 As much as I do love my S9 Plus this would be awfully tempting to me compared to the deal you got, largely due to the weight savings, QHD - a little easier with scaling than the 9 Plus' QHD+ - and a slew of great reviews pretty much putting it on par with the 9 Plus. Your talking over $200 savings for a machine with a better config - and still 30 days to test and decide and - again with no guarantees - a good chance for a better deal on the 9 Pus if that's the way you want to go after trying the Acer S7.
The biggest downside to buying the 9 Plus is that, while Samsung's customer/wtty support has never been very good, it has been widely reported that Samsung will not continue to sell notebook PCs and I would expect the support to worsen (biggest present issues: 7-14 business day turnaround on all wtty repairs, numerous reports - including in NBR - of refusal to cover obvious hardware defects as wtty claims. Is Acer's support any better? Not that I have heard! but they are ascendant in the notebook business, with increasingly impressive and well priced models and aggressive discounting of most recent previous models and a commitment to the business that often portends better and better customer support.
Disclosure: this is becoming an old saw for me, as reading this thread will confirm (!) and both additional discounts on the 9 Plus, especially with higher config, may not occur in the time frame you need and no guarantees on Acer support. A third option could be a Dell XPS 13 with same config as your K03US 9 Plus listing (on sale) at MS store for $999 (again, your student discounts may get it down to $800-$900) and while Dell's support has had tremendous ups and downs, this is the third incarnation of the model in 2 years and they are definitely in this business for keeps and - very importantly - Dell will sell you an upgraded, 3 yr wtty NBD on site including ADH coverage. The keyboard on this machine is a good bit better than on the s9 though it does lack an SD card slot and it has had a problem with "coil whine," a noise from the keyboard when backlight is on, supposedly with a fix soon to be released by Dell. There is also a 256GB SSD model for $1,299 a little less than the starting price of your S9 with similar discounts likely.
Why do I sound like I'm either trying to talk you out of a Samsung into another brand or making it sound like you may not find your deal as attractive in as little time as a week or two? No reason other than that these alternatives seem to be universally viewed as options to the S9 and advantages could be as I have conjectured. I seem to have developed an obsession with tracking prices of the premium Haswell UBs and like to keep folks abreast of what I'm seeing in the market place solely to provide NBR members options some - possibly you, possibly not, no "bad decisions" or bad choices here - may want to look into. I sincerely hope I've not planted seeds of doubt in you when you were very happy with your purchase. If nothing else, try to keep your eyes peeled for deals while you're in your 30 day "free" evaluation period with your s9.
Best of luck and keep us posted if you like. FWIW, I am in the last week of my return privileges for my S9 Plus, described at the beginning of this "novella" on the state of the market, and I am 80-90% sure I will keep it, but some of the other deals I've pointed out won't let go of my consciousness.
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Hmmmm....that ACER S7 looks pretty interesting and one I haven't considered. I don't know too much about ACER. I know this is a Samsung thread, which I've been watching closely, but the ACER fits all my specs and price. Off to research....
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While I'm a sucker for a "pretty girl" (not sexist, just old expression for anything that just looks so good you can't take your eyes off!), I have little patience for a company that sells a product for more than $1,000 and all but abandons its customers. Aint no saints here, so I say try to sample all those that appeal to you and decide based on your gut reaction, because in this segment, they really are all the same machine and none have good support but none have zero support and Samsung has superb support in the form of NBR (Take several bows, Mssrs Ratsey and Dannemd) so you will not find your $800- $1,000 wasted. Bear in mind: resale value is probably highest for the Dell XPS, followed by the Samsung, then Toshiba, then Acer (until it gets years of good quality under its belt.) Of course Lenovo, which doesn't offer a competing Ultrabook (the Carbon is way overpriced and inferior in a few respects) enjoys historically high esteem, support and resale value. While the esteem and resale values will probably stick for a few more years, the increasingly poor quality control and reduced support quality are hampering it.
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I'm having a terrible time making up my mind and dragging my feet. There's a Microsoft store near me that has the S7 that I may check out this weekend. I think they also have the Ativ 9+ but I'm not paying what they are asking. At least I can compare the two. I can always try it out for 30 days an return the computer if it doesn't work out.
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Wow! First of all I sincerely thank you for the help. I find myself reading threads day after day with more and more confusion but you guys are helping me immensely with this.
(Now getting to it...)To be completely honest, the Office 365 is not something I was ever/am intrigued by. It was a good way to get the discount. My reason to sticking with Samsung is the quality of this particular notebook, from the little research I have done I have found that the S7 has a few more common quality issues that I would rather not deal with, although I've also heard great things about it. With the Dell, I just can't get myself to get one, again because of quality issues of their older models. If I can be convinced of the XPS, there is always simple workarounds to problems like the SD slot that dont bother me. I don't care too much about the minute differences in weight or slimness or crazy high resolutions (but the 128gb SSD is kind of frightening). I am really looking for quality and reliability and cannot stress that enough, which I know can be more of a guessing game and with laptops.
But I do like the idea of the 30-day test period. I'm assuming if the price drops any lower and/or back-to-school discounts come into effect I will just head back to the MS Store, or if I love the laptop and find it cheaper through Blinq or other reatailers, I'll bite. Thanks for the heads up, I will definetely keep my eyes open during the 30 days. -
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So Engadget has a review on the 15 inch 2014 Edition SB9+, is there any news of the incoorperated DAC and updated keyboard on the 13 inch? Because that would be a huge deal for me.
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the updated graphics driver removed an option in the Power menu that controlled brightness of the screen while on the battery mode.
i had to disable that option so that the screen does not constantly change the brightness. now that the option is gone from the menu, i cannot disable that option anymore.
i forgot what it was exactly called, but it is gone. now i only see "panel self-refresh" and "extended battery life for gaming."
no, i am not talking about the usual Windows adaptive brightness option.
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lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!
I don't observe "mustard" yellows at all, never have due to age of my AB9+. I received mine basically unused in late June. At that time I:
1) ran some 100+ Windows updates, all Samsung SW Updates and upgraded to W8.1
2) since then I have run WU daily and a few Samsung SW Updates (none related to graphics or display, to the best of my recall)
3) I have not performed the recent "graphics update" in Samsung SWU
I have put my AB9+ side by side with two Sony "Z" models (Z13, Z22) each with 98% Adobe RGB (way over 100% sRGB) and while colors are not exact (AB9+ covers only 75% of sRGB) the yellows (using Adobe codes and Best Buy's web site logo for comparison) have similar tones and the Samsung does not have exhibit "mustard bias," on AC or battery, mid thru full brightness.
Thoughts/explanations anyone?
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1. go to bestbuy website.
2. set your brightness to max.
3. change brightness back and forth between 90 and 100
4. you will notice only the shades of yellow change -- yellow becomes dull while other colors pop out.
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Just got my AB9+ today and my first impressions are WOW. This thing is awesome.
I'm just wondering, is there any out of box settings I need to adjust? Also, how loud should the trackpad 'click' be? Mine is definitely audible but I'm not sure if it is normal or not.go45cvi likes this. -
lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!
How bizarre is this??? Yeah, I get the 90/100 diff (never use 100 - always want some "reserve!"). But all that I read months and months ago was that it was on battery only that the Yoga (and I guess this too) had the mustard thing. Why even have a top setting if it screws up the colors, why not just cap the backlight? Is the backlight in the Yoga the same one as in this one? What have the geniuses determined is the reason that at exactly a certain degree of backlight the colors distort, not one nit before??? Also aren't there some others (not just this and Yoga) using this screen? Almost certain Fujitsu does on one model, no? I though it was an IGZO screen, made by Sharp? Do you know who makes it?
(I knew there was a reason I liked my HP Spectre screen better than this! Still the best looking/working UB I've encountered - only because the Spectre had a funny keyboard)
Thanks for the explanation. A little bummed by it though
EDIT: Turns out the mustard on max only happens when plugged in; on battery yellow is yellow on 10/10 and it's just as bright as plugged in. Stranger and stranger!
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You must have the "Display Power Saving Technology" option enabled inside the Intel HD Graphics Control Panel.
That feature automatically reduces the brightness ever so slightly to save battery.
And result of that, you don't really notice the yellow turning into mustard. At most, you are likely at the 95 level brightness.
You can get to the settings as I described in my earlier post.
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lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!
Truthfully, the part of my ego that this damages is where I've been preaching/crusading about for at least 5 years:
1) All [premium] laptop displays should not be TN (ok: IPS/PVR/PLS, etc)
2) " " " " should be 300 nits or more
3) " " " " should have accurate representation of 100% sRGB
4) " " " " should have black levels below 0.5 cd/m, preferably below 0.4
5) " " " " should, therefore, have static contrast ratios near or above 1,000:1
6) " " " " should be matte, or coated for low reflection if glossy
7) " " " " should offer options where "better" is subjective: eg, resolution, touch
Owning Sony Zs in 2010 made me feel smug and superior - NO, scratch that, lucky and blessed (to know the difference and be able to afford it). Now, in late 2014, I seem to attached myself to a truly wonderful piece of hardware that does nearly everything very well - in the very limited fields of performance for which we have enabled the brands to charge us $1,000 - $2,000 - except that its screen:
-- has at best 75% sRGB gamut coverage and decent accuracy at best and this whacky yellow thing
-- is highly glossy and touch enabled, with no options on either
-- has ridiculous screen density - which I happen to enjoy but is in no way right for the times, certainly without other options
-- averages barely 275 nits bright, despite mfr claim of 350
-- largely due to ^ manages only some 775:1 contrast ratio
In all, despite still being a very enjoyable display, this one violates all but 2 of my "must haves" from 4 years ago: it's IPS/PLS and has a black value of 0.39. Pretty abysmal overall. Then again, it's kind of like, I own several laptops with near "perfect" displays but I don't do professional or even hobby work which require the top 5% of displays, and being in the top 20% still gets you a very fine display, warts and all.
Plus, I truly believed Samsung was "above" this yellow issue, had it totally nailed months ago, long before Lenovo even acknowledged the problem. Also, I thought all the 3200 x 1800 13.3" LCDs were Sharp IGZOs - wrong! They're IGZOs or --- Samsungs! At least Samsung has managed to engineer equally power efficient performance, if not the brightness or thinness, among other virtues of IGZO tech.
Funny, I sold my HP Spectre 13-3000 for two principal reasons, one of which was that in HP's inimitable [non]sense of timing, it decided to discontinue that extremely well received, very well priced model 5 months after it's initial release; although that company plans to continue to make notebook computers for the US market - for now (they announced their exit from it in 2012, only to reverse the reverse in 2013!)
Consumer electronics is no place for perfectionists to ply their neuroses! Ditto European sports sedans - I finally learned to buy Hondas-only, no matter what I felt I could afford or how much I drooled over designs and performance. It just plain feels crappy to spend $40,000+ on a car full of flaws that the mfr won't/can't fix. Ditto $1,500 on thin/light laptops. I got this one for a "stupendous" $1,025 - $600 under market and only $200 over value among competitive models and plunging prices. Trouble is, there is no Honda in consumer technology except, er..."Samsung" - or so it used to be. They've just spent too much time proving they could play in Apple's sandbox, in which overpriced product is mandatory!
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Did Samsung really make it so that adaptive dimming can't be turned off on battery? Has anyone found a workaround to this?
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I ended up popping open the back cover (carefully remove 10 screws with a #00 precision phillips), then lifting the battery pack (4 slightly larger screws, maybe #0 precision phillips). You can tilt the battery back from the front edge of the notebook to expose the underside of the trackpad. I then cut down a piece of polyethylene anti-static foam (many computer parts come shipped in it, like this: Anti-Static Foam Pouches, Anti Static Foam Pouch in Stock - ULINE), folded it over, and placed it underneath the trackpad so it becomes wedged in between the underside of the trackpad and the battery once the battery is reinstalled. The result is a slightly firmer trackpad feel, no more cheap rattle, and more of a satisfying thud - closer to the way my first AB9+ sounded. It's been months and I've had no problems.
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2. Yes - here are two methods that do the exact same thing:
The quick way is to press Fn-F1 (Launches Samsung Settings). Then select "Display" on the left, then "Screen Brightness" at the top, then deselect the box next to "On Battery".
Alternatively, if you are avoiding Samsung Settings, go to Control Panel->System and Security->Power Options, then select "Change Plan Settings" the the right of your current power plan, then near the bottom select "Change Advanced Power Settings", scroll down and select the drop down next to "Display", then the drop down next to "Enable Adaptive Brightness", then click next to "On battery" and set to "Off". -
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Actually I already did driver rollback to an earlier version.
On the new update, the option is enabled by default but there was no menu to turn that off.
Seemed like Samsung/Intel purposefully removed it from the menu.
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Adaptive Brightness rite of passage
Four places to disable Adaptive Brightness (w/Settings screenshot)
FIVE places to disable Adaptive Brightness in Win8 after Settings 2.0.0.49
Note that the Charms setting moved to a different place in Win8.1 from the Win8 location mentioned in these posts.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned, but does anyone know what the main difference is between the NP940X3G-S03US and the NP940X3G-K06US? Looking at specs it seems that the S03US has 8GB of RAM while the K06US only has 4GB. But the prices on Amazon.com are pretty much the same. I tried looking at the specs and otherwise they seem to be the exact same computer. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I'm missing. Also, does the S03US have the SideSync stuff in it like the other computers?
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FYI those with touchpad issues, keep your laptop away from magnets (ie, Samsung Galaxy Tab S case). I noticed my touchpad was getting jumpy on first turn on, and I realize it started having problems since I purchased the Galaxy Tab S (they both sit in my bag on top of each other). I believe the STRONG magnets in the case messes up the touchpad temporarily. Since keeping the tablet in a different compartment, my touchpad issues went away
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As for any necessary drivers, they can be downloaded with SW Update -- as noted.
As mentioned by member leftbrain99, Microsoft Signature models also do not include Samsung Recovery Solution, which has a few nice features (such as built-in cloning of the SSD, including SRS itself). But I believe Microsoft sets them up with Windows Recovery instead, which takes up less space on the SSD.
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I've had this computer for about a month. In the past couple of days, my trackpad has stopped working a couple of times. Have had to restart the computer and then everything is back to normal. This is obviously very disruptive. Any ideas what can be the problem, and anything I can do in terms of drivers to remedy this?
This has definitely not been prompted by any kind of magnets or interference from other electronics.
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HOW CAN I FIX THE YELLOW DISPLAY PROBLEM.
I know this is a known problem, but apparently now Samsung doesn't know how to fix it. The downloadable patch mentioned here doesn't work. My yellows are still brownish--the same plugged or unplugged.
At one point, support was able to walk me through installing a new driver so that yellow's actually displayed as yellow--so I know it's possible. But then new software updates reverted it.
The Samsung Software updater updated the display driver again yesterday and I hoped it would correct the problem but it hasn't.
I imagine most people don't complain because they go to web sites and watch movies and that all looks fine--but as a graphic designer, having the colors display so incorrectly is a big problem for me.
When I called Samsung they said I'd have to send my computer in for service--but we all know it's not a hardware issue, because software can fix it--only the patch they have now doesn't. For the world's biggest LCD maker, you'd think that being able to display yellow, one of the three primary colors in RGB would be a no-brainer, but, apparently, it's something they don't want to bother with.
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Can anyone help me with slooww IE Windows 8 version? Pages take too long to load. Hitting the back button often results in greyed out screen in continuous loading phase. Its really frustrating. I disabled add ons but no luck. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Am I blind or do Chrome Canary have HiDPI-support now on this thing? Looks realy good. Some elements are a bit smal, but rather that than too big like on the retina MBP.
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Chrome Canary does look good now, though scrolling in IE is quite a bit smoother.
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