2013 Series 7 chronos / Ativ Book 8 15" owner's lounge (NP770Z5E / NP780Z5E / NP870Z5E / NP880Z5E)

Did you check if your recovery still works after the cloning? It shouldn't. Try pressing F4 during boot

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I received my Samsung NP880Z5E-X01UB from bestbuy yesterday. Installed the 8GB mem simm and removed most of the bloatware. The Samsung 512GB 840 pro install is next up on the list of things to upgrade along with Windows 8 pro. Overall very pleased with the system. I ran diags to check for problems and none found. Ran several dead pixel tests, none found. LCD panel is beautiful with wide viewing angles. Was able to pull the Windows OS key from the bios using RW-Everything. I did have to disable secure boot to allow the app to read the bios.

I did have one annoying problem that I hope someone can help me with. The laptop has plenty of volume with headphones plugged in. So much so that it can hurt your ears. However each time I remove or insert the headphone jack Windows reduces the volume level to some pre-configured setting. I tried changing settings in both the control panel sound and Realtek audio options. “Do Nothing” is checked on the communications tab under control panel sound. These changes made no difference. Does anyone know of a solution to this problem?

 

After 1!!! hour it said to me "Error" but after reboot "Run as administrator" for C:\Program Files (x86)\Samsung\SW Update\sManager.exe take me easy and fast to flash

 

Thank you for the welcome. Much appreciated. Really love the new laptop. Now if I could just figure out how to keep the headphone audio from auto adjusting I'd be all set...

 

yup, doesn't work through windows or through F4. I think that's my fault for using a third party software to clone the drive that messed up the recovery partition.

 

When the next BIOS Update comes along I recommend using the standalone BIOS Update program as described here.

John

 

have you kept norton? should i use another antivirus?
Ps: why i cant write in the forum with google chrome?

 

why do i have
processor 7,6
graphics 6,9
graphics game 6,9

 

Hi firepri, welcome to NBR.

It does indeed sound like that clone is corrupted. I am sorry.

If it seemed like the clone was good, and it was only F4 that was lost (which is normal with 3rd party tools), I would suggest you follow this post to add Recovery to your Windows boot menu. But my concern is if there are corruptions on your Recovery Partitions, the results are unpredictable at best.

You can still try it, though. After adding Recovery to the boot menu, if you manage to boot your Recovery, you should create a Bootable factory Image Backup on a 32GB USB stick, then boot that stick and start over re-imaging your SSD. That procedure is discussed extensively in this thread.

Alternatively, you can try cloning again from the HDD (now in an external USB enclosure) to the SSD (now internal). Member go45cvi recently reported successfully restoring a Clonezilla disk image and preserving his F4. That is the first such report I have seen.

Or if you're really adventurous, you could try booting Recovery on your external HDD, as described in this post. This is theoretical, I have not heard reports of anyone doing this yet. If you do manage to boot Recovery this way (and if detects your Factory Image on the HDD) you could either create a USB backup (as described above) or use the Disk Copy feature.

Of course the safe and predictable approach is to swap the HDD back in. But I assumed you want to avoid that if you can

Please keep us updated on your progress.

 

I recommend uninstalling Norton. It's on the bloat list I linked to earlier (and which you Liked )

Win8 comes with pretty good antivirus, a hybrid of the good old Windows Defender, Microsoft Security Essentials and Malicious Software Removal. The only reason Norton is included on your PC is NOT for your protection, but because Norton pays Samsung to promote their software.

I use Chrome on all my PCs. What is the problem you are seeing? Please see this post from last time somebody posted about chrome issues.

 

ok ive just restart the pc and now chrome works.

i think i'll install bitdefende,avast or avira.. the best?

should i install the update of :
mediasdk patch for widi 1.0
px profile list?

why i cant find the 2.0.0.055 version of settings? the last one i can see in sw update is the 2.0.0.49

 

i would recommend the windows defender, in w8 is really good, consume less than others antivirus

 

Thought I'd do a WEI test in Windows 8.1 to compare to previous results on this laptop - and it's gone (WEI, not the laptop ) - looks like Microsoft have killed it off! Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.

 

I'd agree, stick with the Microsoft offering, it's as good, if not better than all those you've mentioned. (I paid for ESET just before buying this laptop, that's pretty good too, but I lived without it on this laptop for ages, and actually the Microsoft version is probably more lightweight and just as powerful)!

To find the 2.0.0.055 version, you have to use the "Find Model" button in SW Update, and find a later version in one of the 880Z5E, Windows 8 lists, it's not in all of them, though, so you'll have to do a bit of a hunt (I think it's in the 880Z5E X01CA folder, but check me on that!

You can install both of those updates.

 

I'm also experiencing the black boxes flickering on a NP870Z5E. Any solution, besides reverting back to the official SAMSUNG drivers?

 

Going to buy mine from my local store! (Ativ book 8, 880Z5E X01-IL, 8870m, Touch Model) :

Buy NOW Samsung ATIV Book 8 NP880Z5E-X01IL - Mineral Ash Black

I have a question. If I swap the HDD with an SSD at the before I click for the first time on the power button, will it boot without problems and automatically install the windows on the SSD?

 

What is the diffrent between To find the 2.0.0.055 version and the old one 2.0.0.049
??

where can i check which catalyst version i have??

cheers

 

If only that were possible. No, you need to turn the laptop on, and immediately press F4, create a recovery image (LOTS of information on doing that across these forums, at the very least, see post #1 of this forum!), then install your SSD and then use the recovery image you created.

All the information for Windows/Recovery/default install is stored on the HDD, so swapping for the SSD before you create a recovery image, will just remove all the information from the PC.

 

+1 I really like win8's antivirus. Effective, light, easy to use and free. I wouldn't not recommend norton since it's expensive, annoying to use (imo) and probably not much more effective than windows' antivirus.

IMO it's a good thing. To me, it has been the least representive and reliable benchmark I've ever used.

 

So you guys would suggest removing a 3rd party antivirus (I'm currently with avira free) and keeping the stock antivirus? I'd like to save up as much ram as possible and I'm trying to have as few startup processes as possible on my machine. If I can safely surf and download from the web with only win 8's antivirus installed, I'd definitely remove Avira from my laptop!

 

I think that with Windows 7 Microsoft gave us a good level of protection with Windows defender, and from what I read here it seems that they further improved it in Windows 8. I can just share my experience: in my old laptop I ran windows 7 for several months without any antivirus, just Windows Defender; then, one day I installed Kaspersky, ran a full scan and not a single virus was found... And I do really a LOT of web browsing and downloading just be careful about where you surf you can always try to stay without antivirus for a couple of months, then install some free antivirus (i.e. Avast, or Avira if you prefer it) and check if windows defender did a good job if yes, uninstall the antivirus again

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Where is this version with 8870m available in U.S.
Can anyone tell me?

 

Well got my Samsung book 8 finished up last night. Performed the F4 image backup and full backup onto a USB hard drive. Installed the Samsung 840 Pro 500GB SSD. Performed the F4 restore after adjusting the bios settings. All partitions, OS and personal settings were installed on the new drive. Rebooted and tested to make sure F4 still worked and all appears ok. Powered up the laptop and with the option to add new features upgraded the OS to Windows 8 Pro. Installed MS Office 2010 and a few other apps. With 16GB ram the Windows performance index was at 7. The slowest item on the list was the video card. Most everything else was about 7.9-8.1. From power down to restart is 8 seconds. From power on to Windows 8 login screen 4 seconds. Now I'm happy. This is now a very nice laptop. Next up is the battery test.

 

Yeah, where can I find one of these things in the U.S? What's the difference between the chronos and the ativ or is it just a rebranding?

 

Hi folks - i've searched this thread but still unclear as to the difference between Windows' own Recovery option (refresh or reset with a clean install) vs. Samsung's F4 recovery.

I assume that Samsung's uses its own recovery image and sets the computer back to factory default state.

I assume that Windows Recovery - using the reset option - does essentially the same (is that correct?) - both involving a reformatting of C:

Finally, Windows' refresh option would simply re-install Windows keeping the user profile in place so as not to affect the existing default libraries.

Is this correct? I am wanting to start fresh from a factory default state and am not concerned about files and settings - they are all backed up. Since I bought my nP780Z5E a few weeks ago, i've been farting around with it and would like to put it back to the default state and start fresh with the bloat removed any my main apps installed, then create an acronis image of that state that I can go back to when I want to start over.

The other thing is, I am a technet subscriber and I used the Windows Anytime Upgrade to take the OS to Windows 8 Pro (even though I really don't need it but wanted to check it out). I am assuming that the Samsung recovery will take me back to the vanilla Windows 8. Would that be a safe assumption?

Thanks again!

 

try the amd enduro fix by another user of this forum, machater I think. when I was on 13.5 beta 3, running his soft. solved those issues in my 870Z5E

 

Slightly off-topic, but I wonder how many remember the good old DOS days when Norton Antivirus was THE antivirus to have, then with early Windows 95, Norton Utilities was THE AV/Utilities tool to have - now anything with the word Norton seems to be just bloated and resource hungry. I gave up on it being the first thing I'd install on a new PC/rebuild to the first piece of bloatware I'd make sure to remove each time.

And before anyone shouts at me, your experiences of Norton may vary, this is just my opinion - I used to be a massive fan, particularly of all the disk tools - sadly redundant in this age - and the antivirus, which used to be amongst the leanest on resources!

I now use Win 8's AV - for a month or so, I have been using ESET, but that's just raised a whole load of problems in Windows 8.1 (virus signature updates failing, error messages & false "security" warnings) - so back to the Microsoft AV I go - again!

 

Thanks for the thorough reply! I tried adding Recovery to the boot menu, but the just resulted in a black screen. I do indeed think that something is corrupted in that partition. Trying to boot recovery from the original HDD resulted in a black screen too. As for cloning the drives again with Clonezilla, the website states that the target drive must be equal or greater in size to the original drive, which it isn't in my case.

At this point, I think I'm going to have to cheat a little bit. I have a retail version of Windows 8 for System Builders, so I'm currently looking into making that into a bootable USB and just using that. I realize it will wipe my recovery, but since I'll already have a bootable version of Windows, and I'm pretty good at backing my files up, I think this solution will work for me. I was anyway planning on getting rid of the recovery partition at some point as it is taking up valuable space on the SSD. My only question is to how I can get SW update. There seems to be no link on the Samsung support page, and as far as I'm aware, that's the only way to get the drivers.

 

I think it's a perfectly logical decision to go ahead with a clean install, since you have Win8 install media (which many don't) and given the situation. You have your original HDD if you ever need to go back to factory, just keep that safe.

After completing Win8 Setup, install the drivers listed in the post linked below.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sam...780z5e-np870z5e-np880z5e-132.html#post9255035.

If that post doesn't have a download link for SW Update, then try this one:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sam...windows-7-8-via-usb-np700z-4.html#post9191509

I'm not on my pc, so extensive link work is difficult

 

I have the same problem with sound, though I did not even re-install windows. I suspect updating bios killed my speakers, - they were working 100% before the flash. I tried restoring factory image, new drivers, etc, all to no avail. I am in the process of sending the machine back to Samsung for a warranty repair now..

 

Thanks for all the help Dannemand, it worked! I made the bootable USB and it worked like a charm! Only 5 minutes for a new Windows install with the SSD and USB 3.0. Got SW update, and as far as I can tell, everything is working. Settings starts up, and all the function keys work as well, as do the Switchable Graphics (which was one of my concerns with a new Windows install).

 

I remember those days ... though I started "banning" Norton Utilities on Windows 3.11 machines. Norton UnErase was great ... for a minute.

Moved to McAfee with Win95, AVG around XP SP1 and finally Windows Defender with Vista.

--L.

 

For those in the UK who don't want touchscreen:

Samsung NP770Z5E-S02UK Laptop, Intel Core i5, 2.6GHz now down to £649 (was £799) Buy Samsung NP770Z5E-S02UK Laptop, Intel Core i5, 2.6GHz, 8GB RAM, 1TB, 15.6", Silver online at John Lewis

Samsung NP770Z5E-S01 Laptop, Intel Core i7, 2.4GHz is down to £889 (was £999) Buy Samsung NP770Z5E-S01 Laptop, Intel Core i7, 2.4GHz, 8GB RAM, 1TB, 15.6", Metal online at John Lewis

The Ivy Bridge Ativ Book 8 is about to arrive.

John

 

Bump!

I really want to know where to buy this notebook in U.S.(interested in 8870 m version)

Any resellers,shops,etc.(particularly in Ohio)

 

Great news John, thanks!

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but the NP770Z5E-S02UK and Ativ Book 8 have the same chasis, same great screen and same battery life.

Ativ 8 has a slighty faster GPU, faster CPU and touchscreen. Also better JLB speakers.

NP770Z5E-S02UK is slightly lighter and almost half price.

If I'm missing anything please tell me now cos this deal seems incredible at 650. Just have to figure out how to get it to Japan...

 

That looks like it really IS just a rebadge of the Chrons NP780z5e S01UK, it's even the same silver colour and from what I can see, identical specs - and about £300 more than I paid for my chronos in March - the only addition I can see is side-sync which I think I can live without, or probably just download from SWUpdate! Naughty Samsung!

 

Look like new BIOS for 870z5e became to eat battery. not more but near 10-15% less in same everyday work modes(about 30-45 minutes). Is the way to recover BIOS and where to find previous version?

 

Thank you for the update. Good job getting that all working so smoothly. We don't get many reports of clean Win8 installs for these models (because most people don't have Win8 install media). It's good to hear that Earth is still spinning at normal speed and clean installs work as they are supposed to

Also thank you for testing boot of Recovery on your external HDD (which seems not to work). This is something I've been curious about for awhile, but unable to test myself with SRS6 (since my Sammy has SRS5). It was always a long shot, but at least now we know!

 

Oh I remember that. I think I got my first Norton Utilities in 1983, and it really was a great suite of tools back then. But something seems to happen to some programmers when they discover how to write resident code; seems like they become obsessed with the idea of their code running all the time, even when it serves little purpose. So they want as much code as possible being resident -- and that's how bloat and high latencies come about. Norton was a utilities pioneer back in the day -- but became a bloat and latency pioneer later.

 

My experience as well. When the consumer NAV started bloating I switched to NAV Corporate because it was much less bloaty. Then I went to ESET until they started adding everything and the kitchen sink. Now I am just going with MS and being careful where I dip my digital wick.


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One more point I think worth noting. After a few hours, I noticed that whenever I closed the lid, the computer would either crash and reboot or BSOD. I figured out the hard way that you have to uninstall the generic HD4000 driver Windows automatically added and let SW update install it. I don't exactly know why (I suspect that it has something to do with the switchable graphics) but that solved the problem.

 

I'm still using ESET (AV not the Smart Security) and it's using 72 MB of RAM and negligible CPU. I've just gone to V6 and one change I've noticed is a little pop-up window when I plug in a removable device and it asks whether or not I want to scan it.

John

 

I am confused. In the Samsung USA site if you compare the ATIV Book 8 with the ATIV Book 6 the only difference appears to be that the Book 6 has 1GB of DDR5 Graphics memory and the ATIV Book 8 has 1 GB of non DDR5 Graphics memory. That isnt a type the Book 6 has the DDR5 memory. Is this the Samsung site just having content wrong? Or is it that the ATIV Book 8 in the US is neutered.

 

Can anyone confirm if this model features the JBL speakers as in its bigger i7 8870m brother:

NP770Z5E-S02UK
Buy Samsung NP770Z5E-S02UK Laptop, Intel Core i5, 2.6GHz, 8GB RAM, 1TB, 15.6", Silver online at John Lewis

 

yes it does feature JBL speakers.i bought it yesterday from john lewis,i was going to wait for the i7 to fall to £800 but for £650 the i5 is a good price.since I don't do gaming its ok for me.

 

Thanks for the reply. I went ahead and ordered the i7 from JL.

The i5 is probably better value for money, although I plan to use mine for gaming (as well as work).

I have spent too long waiting for the refreshed Ativ 8 and/or Haswell version and it will probably be much more than 900 when its available.

 

congratulation it is a beautifully built machine,if you are going to use it for gaming you do need the i7.i bought mine just to use it in the kitchen,the wife doesn't allow smoking anywhere except the kitchen.my main use is stream watching latest tv shows and films.all i need now is a dummies guide to changing the hdd to ssd especially the os side.

 

Copied from the first post on this thread (page 1) and after clicking 'show'.

 

I managed to avoid the problems with graphical corruption in Metro (Windows 8 Store) apps by forcing the laptop to use integrated graphics by default, and only use the Radeon when requested by the Configure Switchable Graphics settings.

I did this by:
- click on the battery icon in the system tray amd selecting More Power Options.
- Change Plan Settings for Samsung Optimised (which was set, rather than Power Saver)
- Change advanced power settings
- Go to Switchable Dynamic Graphics | Global Settings
- For both On Power and On Battery, select Optimize power savings

Metro apps tend to be optimised for the likes of the Surface Pro that only has Intel 4000 graphics anyway, and you're best to set any games or 3D productivity apps to specifically use the discrete graphics from the AMD Switchable Graphics settings you get by right-clicking the desktop.

This seems quite acceptable for me, and if people agree that is reasonable, I'd suggest we add this as a common bit of advice to the first post. It took me a fair while to figure out where all the settings were for all this. That Advanced Power Options dialog is a little Aladdin's Cave.

I was avoiding metro apps since installing Catalyst 13.5b3, but since I'd bought a touchscreen Chronos, I was feeling a little bit sore losing access to all the good touchy stuff. But now I can Fresh Paint to my heart's content.

 

Is there any portable antivirus that I can keep on my drive and run sporadically just to check the situation, rather than waiting for an indefinite time and then running through the installation of an antivirus suite, which I would probably uninstall right after running a scan of my laptop? If so, I'd give it a shot and uninstall Avira..