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    Can you disable optimus/switchable graphics in the new series 7 chronos/gamer laptop?

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by BattlefieldEarth, May 10, 2012.

  1. BattlefieldEarth

    BattlefieldEarth Notebook Enthusiast

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    like topic, I really need to know that before buying the laptop? I do not want optimus/switchable graphics to be enabled because I just want nvidia/AMD graphics to be on all the time.
     
  2. spincel

    spincel Notebook Consultant

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    Unless you have that option in the BIOS, which I don't see Samsung would do that right now. For the record, we have been giving them the advice that they need to implement some sort of option to choose the VGA card to be default, but justify on the new screenshot for the new series 7 with IB, I did not see any thing that they changed into the bios. Of course they might change the board to incorporate that, but you have to wait until they release a new bios update in order to verify that. Until that, there is no way you can do.

    Another thing that I don't understand is why you need to use all VGA all the time. The Optimus solution is pretty good, compare to AMD switchable. It allows laptop to has more longer battery hour. Also, unlike AMD, Optimus will work on every graphical application like games or 3D rendering applications. Fo r application that does not need the power of VGA, using VGA card is pretty useless.
     
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    because I google optimus and people seems to have problems with it as well, one person modify the bios of a laptop to disable optimus and gets more than 30+ fps boost in games, and the laptop did said it is using Nvidia before, so basically Windows is lying about using Nvidia.

    If its not possible, i will find one that doesn't have optimus or switchable, thanks anyways!
     
  4. spincel

    spincel Notebook Consultant

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    Good luck with that :D. The Optimus is kind of additional software to the card. That why I said the OEM like Samsung could allow us to to use the dedicated card only. Most laptop OEMs consider about their laptop battery and how long you can use those. So that they will use any mean to prolong the battery. If you want to find a true gaming laptop, I suggest look for custom built laptop or Allienware. Those laptops can pack high-end graphic card and their systems do allow you to customize whatever you want. For the rest, you don't want to mess with BIOS in laptop because unlike desktop, which can have dual bios in case of the other fail, laptop does not has any ability to recover itself. Also, laptop BIOS has limited functionally, so that you cannot extend anything at all unless you modify and use a custom firmware. Nevertherless, you would damage your warranty on those as you try to force something that might not work and has not been test by OEMs, eventhough you some actually did that.
     
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    well, I want to buy the 15.6 inch chronos laptop, the main reason for that its light for its performance. Gaming laptop is too heavy for my taste because i do want to do my work with it.
     
  6. spincel

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    Most ultrabook or lightweight laptop restrict user too many, BIOS, configuration, v.v. That why I said you would be lucky if you can find a laptop that meets all of that. For now, if you don't sastisfy with your S7, trade it to an Envy. HP had a BIOS that does allow you to force discreted card to be use all the time, the downside is that it use the AMD, not Nvidia card. Or wait until the release new BIOS and see if that update do contain a way to force the card or not, however, that would not be in the mean time, which you might see it about 2-3 months from now or maybe less or maybe more. Who'll know? :p
     
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    Seriously, i am the only one who cares about buying a laptop and not able to use it to its potential?
     
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    You can make programs use the nvidia card by default in the nvidia settings. Default is "auto-select" to save battery life but you can change it to always use the nvidia card.
     
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    Given to the last switchable graphic disaster and the potential problem of optimus, i rather have them disabled.
     
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    Have you use any Optimus switchable graphic before? The swichable from AMD is a joke, but Nvidia has done really good job at this thing. Nvidia driver is more stable and has more compatible with different laptops and Nvidia GPU.