Introducing The 2013 Series 7 Chronos with AMD HD8870M!

The 8870m version is a major disappointment with the 90w supply. The 8770m already pushes it beyond 90w. What a joke.

Sent from my GT-N7000

 

Another user with this problem said the problem worked itself out after he installed all of his Windows updates.

 

You have the 8870m version?

 

Apparently, because who would make a conclusion without having used the product! /s

 

He could be looking at benchmarks, or he could have the 17 inch version, or he could somehow has a 780z5e with it

 

He has been talking only negative stuff about a laptop that has not been released and not been tested. He has an agenda. Ignore his comments.

 

5150Joker has contributed more to this thread then most others. He was one of the first buying the 8770 version, and could have gotten his hands on a 8870 or talking about the 17" which seems to have a 90W power adapter

 

Based on what Joker showed in his results, the PSU is nowhere near big enough to get the full potential out of the 8870. Oh dear.

Looks even more like I'm sticking to the 8770 model now.

 

It has been released, just not here, and not with A touch screen.

 

My Samsung Chronos 7 is here! Can't wait to dive in and check this beast out.

 

Which model?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

 

The Best Buy one.

 

I also got an email that the one I ordered yesterday from Best Buy came in. I will pick it up after work today!

 

If the laptop is pulling 92W in full load and the PSU is rated 90W, it's obviously throttling the CPU down because of the lack of watts... But any 19V charger with more than 5 amps should do the trick unless the motherboard input itself is limited to 4.74A :/

 

Thats what I got out of that as well. If jumping to the 8870 just takes you from a 650m to a 660m then the 8770 is a better deal price wise unless you just have to have that performance.

 

Congrats. Have to let us know what you think.

 

if i buy the Z5E from best buy from another state, will i have to pay that state's taxes on it?

 

If you buy for delivery or in-store pickup at a best buy in your state you will be charged your states sales tax. If you order for pickup or just walk in and buy at an out of state best buy you will be changed the sales tax of that location.

 

is it possible to oder this computer from a different state to be delivered to me? if so, whats the state that charges the least amount of sales tax?

 

Not possible. Only options are...

- Delivery at your house, taxes charged as per your location.
- Delivery to a store for in-store pickup. taxes charged as per the location of the store, you must walk in to complete purchase of item.

So you can't specially say you are ordering from Nebraska and need it shipped to Nevada or anything like that.

 

Wow, that's great! Which country do you live in?

Here in the US, it is still not even listed on the samsung.com website

 

Pretty sure that you can order from a store and not pay tax, as Long as that store doesn't have any branches in your state.
So if person a lives in Florida, he can order from a store in Newyork like JR and not pay tax

 

He got it from bestbuy and lives in the US

 

I live in the USA as well. Its not listed I know. Which is weird. They only have a page for it but no details. Ordered it from best buy for about 1270 with tax and express shipping included.


Opened it up and first thing I noticed is that it feels great. Best machine I've felt in a while. About as good if not better than my friends MacBook in build quality.

 

Not even all the previous Z5A and Z5C models are on Samsung's website. They're painfully slow with their updates.

 

Wow, you got off lucky. It was $1299 ($1199+99 and change tax) for me and I walked into a store and bought it, no shipping.

 

Finally Found the AMD HD8870 IN 15,6 WITH TOUCHSCREEN ON SAMSUNG UK SITE
The links here:
NP780Z5E - TECH SPECS | Support Samsung This one with i7 and AMD HD8870


NP780Z5E - TECH SPECS | Support Samsung This one with i5 and AMD HD8850

 

The i7 version looks identical to the best buy version except for the 8870 instead of the 8770. It even has 4mb on board and a 4mb sim.

 

4mb? And sim? You mean 4 GB and RAM?

Edit: sorry I'm a little confused

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

 

Should I download the Windows 8 critical updates from the SW update software?

 

Just that like the best buy version there is 4gb soldered on the mother board and another 4gb in a memory card slot. They used to be called simms (single in-line memory modules) not sure if the term is still used.

 

Sorry if you'd mentioned it previously, but did you get the model w/ the AMD 8770m or the one with the 8870m?

I picked up the NP780Z5E-S01 w/ the AMD 8770m (1GB) at Best Buy, but I haven't seen the 8870m listed anywhere. If you did pick up the 8870m, care to share a link? I've been very unimpressed with the 8770m, but I guess that's just old drivers and the 8870m would have similar problems.

I did run 3Dmark11, and Performance Test/Passmark but I'm having a hard time telling which card it used. I tried to disable the Intel GPU in the device manager before running the tests, but then the tests wouldn't run or gave errors back for some results. I can't even get GPU-z to startup--it just hangs on the splash/startup screen.

 

Yes it's the 8770 model.

 

The link says the Hard Drive is SATA II....does this mean it wouldn't be compatible with the Samsung 840 Pro SATA III SSD?? That would be a huge bummer if so

 

Why don't you try explaining to me how a video card with nearly twice the amount of pipelines as the 8770M will be able to achieve full sustained performance when its constrained by the same power limitations as the 8770M version? Are AMD/Samsung going to release some voodoo drivers + magical bios updates that transform the PSU into a 120+W one? I'm waiting on your brilliant answers.

I'll put it this way: Any game or application that pushes the core will see throttling. That's why notebookcheck results reflect that in most of the games they tested. It has very little to do with the drivers. This is just a rebadged 7870M, the core is already mature. If they released a bios update, the only way to extract more power from the GPU would be to further throttle down the CPU so its a no-win situation. IMO the 8870M version is purely marketing at this point unless they change to a 120W design with a motherboard that can handle the load + cooling that can keep up with the increased TDP.

 

Yep, it sounds like the chronos is PSU bound so performance might increase a bit with optimized drivers over time the GPU just isn't going to be able to fully stretch its legs. I'm not sure thats all bad though. It puts the 8770 at a rough equivalent to the 650m and the 8870 to the 660m. Thats quite respectable, especially given the form factor and minimal heat levels they produce.

 

Excuse me. If you had any sense and saw what it says on Samsung's UK site you would see that "* Adapter is different depend on system." Just joined this forum to say this.
NP780Z5E - TECH SPECS | Support Samsung

 

Alchemist, how do I adjust the auto brightness? It's way to low and tried doing the different settings.

Edit: holy crap it is bright!

 

Or you could read what the guy in this thread got with his system which is 90W. I'm going on facts, not Samsung's ever changing website. If someone receives one with a >100W adapter, then we can talk. Until then, all we've seen is 90W.


Edit: Did you bother reading the specs correctly? Here I'll repost them:

60W / 90W AC Adapter*
* Adapter is different depend on system

Meaning 90W is the max rated adapter they have. I don't see anything higher, do you? In fact, they didn't even use the 60W adapter with the systems they shipped out. So if there's any hope, its that they wised up and upped the wattage (doubtful but still hopeful).

Yeah pretty much. It will still outrun the 8770M in select games/applications but it will be tied down by the 90W adapter limit. An aftermarket adapter won't really solve much if there's a sensor built into the system that regulates power draw (which there probably is). It certainly dashed my hopes when that other poster mentioned 90W because I had my sights set on the 8870M version for myself. Going to have to start looking elsewhere now.

 

If you read what's written, you are able to see that there are 2 units: 60W and 90W, so the supplied maximum PSU is only 90W.

 

True. Let's hope for the best.

 

This thing looks more and more like a failure
I was ready to spend 1600€ for full metal, pls screen and some power.

But Samsung messed up all the points...
Company remains silent -> failure.

 

This 8770 model is amazing. Screen is bright and clear.
Powerful as well.
Build quality is amazing as well. Don't care about the bottom because honestly who looks at the bottom of laptops?

 

Stop making assumption based on 1 guys who doesnt have the hd 8870 version wait until a reputable person or websites review it

 

If joker isn't reputable idk who is...

 

Have you done a stress test(Furmark+CPU stress), and monitor the battery?
Does it get reduced instead of increasing?
Sorry if I'm asking a question that already been answered.

Thanks.

Edit : while the adapter is plugged in.

 

Benchmarking Summary - Best Buy model with 8770 gpu.

Passmark-CPU - 8404
Wprime - 9.359 (best time), 9.5 (worst time)

3dmark-06 - 13002

3dmark-11 - 2217

New 3d Mark
Test 1: 44722 (48139 graphics, 35727 physics)
Test 2: 5669 (5683 graphics, 5662 physics)
Test 3: 661 (682 graphics, 7753 physics)

Boot
First Boot - over 40 seconds.
Best - 19 seconds
Worst - 23 seconds

Resume - 2-3 seconds.

Battery Test 1 - 50% Brightness, power saver profile with all timeouts disabled, adaptive brightness disabled, streaming serenity over wifi from netflix, running battery mon which logged to the hd every 10 seconds.
Run Time: 6:18

Battery Test 2 - 40% Brightness, samsung optimized profile (all timeouts disabled) with adaptive brightness enabled in a moderately lit room, running only battery mon which logged to the hd every 10 seconds.
Run Time: 8:46

Battery Test 3 - Recharge from 5% auto-off to 100% while computer was in use.
Recharge Time: 2:14

Summary
At this point i've pretty well run it threw its paces. The build quality is excellent, performance is great, the screen is beautiful. Its the best machine ive used in quite some time. The only hangup I really have with it is that its limited to 12gb of ram. Its also a concern that the 8870 model may come out soon at a good. So far thats the only things that have kept me from transferring the software flag so to speak and making this machine my primary.

 

Anybody updated the ram to 12gb yet?

 

I haven't yet. What's the best ram to put in it?

I like how it's easy access to that.

 

Just got mine and already having it download software. It's quick no doubt, and nice. I have an issue with the screen however. It's grainy. I think this is due to the touchscreen. Not sure if I am going to like that or not. But when I can see a grainy effect, that bothers me.