Next Samsung Series 9 Release

Should be some decent gains (if you believe the hype):

Intel sets Haswell launch for June 4th, details bold battery life claims

 

Can anyone with this laptop comment on the battery life? TIA!

 

Please clarify which model.

John

 

NP900x3e-a02us

 

Well, yes they can but they can't market it as an ultrabook without touch and I am not sure that is what they will want to do.

 

They'll probably do what they're doing with the S7 now (minus the eGPU) and have a touch and non-touch. Then they can market the touch as the "Ativ Book 9 Ultra Hyphen Galaxy Samsung Additional Descriptor Book". While technically not fulfilling the requirements, the non-touch will get the ultrabook association by being in the same product line, if not the blatant statement/sticker. Anyway, Intel's integrity record on the ultrabook moniker is pretty weak, I'm thinking about all those machines with hybrid-hard drives and 4lbs+ of body weight that got the sticker. In the end, they just want to sell chips.

 

I agree with the poster above: Nobody cares if the thing is called an Ultrabook or not. On the other hand, many people, including Yours Truly, don't want a touchscreen, let alone Windows 8, or 8.1...

 

You don't care but believe me the majority of people do and that is who the manufactures market to. The same people also want touch but I agree with you on both, I could care less. I am just predicting that whatever replaces the S9 will be called an ultrabook and have touch. As it is the pricing Sony put on the new Pro 11 and 13 is going to kill a lot of the competition anyway.

 

Yeah, hopefully Samsung will have to drop a couple hundred to compete. Very clear who Sony is gunning for.

 

According to its specs sheet the Vaio Pro 13 Pro non touch is an ultrabook: Sony Press

 

Already formed an opinion on Windows 8.1? That was fast. I don't even have the bits yet.

 

Samsung ATIV Book 9 Review

Review is out!! Just received mine today also from warranty exchange!

 

Thanks for the link which answers your question about the battery life.

John

 

Unless a notebook has a fold back screen, I can think of zero reasons to have a touchscreen, even discounting the reflective finish, just holding your arms of the desk for a short while will be very fatiguing !

 

Well there is one reason, Intel insists it be touch with Haswell in ultrabooks.

 

Intel are currently low in my estimations, Haswell is a flop for performance desktops due to the silly high temps people are reporting, so much for 50% energy saving...bet that's just in some rarely used processor powerdown state !!
Windows 8 has done worse than Vista and will return with bit's and bobs it should have had from the start so we may find the attraction of touch screens diminish, maybe they will call the non touch "classic Ultrabooks"

 

I agree there's no point in upgrading a haswell desktop, heck sandy bridge gives you everything you need. But, supposedly haswell is able to achieve much lower power draw at near idle (so word processing or light web browsing) that should translate to some good gains. I doubt 50% more battery life, though MS is probably praying for that on the surface pro. While I can get by in W8, I think they should have made a few concessions and adoption would have gone much smoother, but it is also a changing market. I've never used a touchscreen laptop, but I imagine my arm would quickly get tired and screen would get greasy

 

So where are we now?
Intel has released Haswell, what and when are the latest rumours/best guesses that we expecting from Samsung?
15" Display
PLS ?
Resolution ?
Touch Screen ?
8 GB RAM ?
Soldered/Upgradeable ?
512 GB SSD ?
20th June ?
Model Number ?

 

We might learn something on 20th June when Samsung will be showing something new. There was brief mention of an FHD display for the 15" version at CES but nothing more. Whether the 13.3" model also just gets a new board or a more substantial chassis redesign also remains to be seen. A mini DisplayPort instead of the mini VGA port is a much-needed change.

John

 

I have the current generation xps 15.

If samsung could release a 15 inch with a 512 ssd haswell and at least 8gb of ram and windows 7 i think i would trade the dell in

 

That should all happen shortly, unless they've killed this model, but you will have to use your downgrade rights to get install W7. Not saying it's gonna be cheap though, probably have to go to the i7 to get a 512 stock. The 15" really needs an improved display though.

 

Meanwhile the 900X3F showed up in Belgium, Italy, Greece, Latvia, Estonia & New Zealand. Are there any owners yet?

Talking to support it uses the same panel as seen in the X3E. Weight and dimension difference is caused by "built & design" aspects. lol

 

I wish a version like this comes out, 15 inch, 512 ssd, don't understand what is the problem of releasing this much needed update in the UK....

 

I thought that we had previously established that the X3F is a touchscreen version of the X3E, which slightly adds to the thickness and weight. However, no one here has reported getting their hands on this version.

John

 

If they did make a 13.3 touch it would need a load of weight in the base to stop you knocking it over

 

Nope, its doesn't come with touch screen. It's thicker, yes, but lighter.
Blame the 30g loss in weight on new materials of the port covers and the disappearance of the touchpad frame. The .3mm thickness difference is mysterious though, maybe it just got some new rubber pads.

 

don't know where you get that from about its appearing in Estonia. except for mostly lithuanian and some estonian online shops mentioning the model NP900X3F-K01EE, there's nothing. and they don't sell it yet, it's just ''available'' for pre-ordering.
atm we only have 900x3e base model with i5 and 128gb. sad, but no.

 

Something is going on...

Ordering System of my IT-Distributor:

900X4C-A0A is BLOCKED for ordering (no more available)
900X3E-A06 is BLOCKED for ordering (no more available)
900X3D-A02 is available
900X3D-A03 is available
900X3E-A05 is available

^^These are the ONLY Models which are listed in the Ordering-System.


They are all a special offer to sell those fast to have room for new ones...

 

I was just searching the samsung site. I've seen other samsung models available in stores before even showing up on the samsung site. Hence I was wondering if there are any owners yet. I didn't look for any dealers, sorry for misleading.

Funnily the Estonian model just shows up on the Latvian site, and the Australian one only on the New Zealand site. I assume those countries share their configurations but at the same time are not necessarily available in both of them!?

 

sounds like German version

Which distributor? How about 900X3E-A01DE?

 

They are all german editions.

Its a big distributor in Germany. I don't want to name it because of NDA for customer of the distributor. - I also found the 900x3e with 1080p Display 4 weeks before you found news about it on engadget/heise/golem and so on.

I listed all models which are listed in the shop. There is no A01DE.


Still waiting for NP900X4* with i7, 8GB of Ram and 512GB SSD with 1080p PLS/IPS-Display and *hopefully* Mini-Displayport because of my Dell U2713hm which has 2560x1440@60Hz as native resolution. (Samsung's HDMI is limited to 2560x1440@41Hz custom resolution - Series 5/7 and 9)

It's time for those changes because it's really embarassing that my Macbook Air Mid 2011 with i5, 4GB Ram and 256GB SSD can use my Dell Screen with 2560x1400@60Hz without lags or problems - just out of the box)

 

Aren't we all.

 

Let's see what happens at "Samsung Premiere" on June 20th In London where Samsung will unveil new "Galaxy and ATIV" devices.

It is fairly sure that Samsung will realease:
Galaxy Tab 3 8.0-inch model
Galaxy NX Camera (a mirrorless camera - amalgam of a DSLR and compact digital camera)
Galaxy S4 Zoom (camera phone)

As far as ATIV, there is no definite rumour, only that it will be either a Win 8 tablet or Ultrabook. Or an ATIV-branded Win8 based Smartphone

 

I am strongly considering Samsung series 9 as my next laptop purchase.

Is there any news as to when Haswell models will be available?
Do you think it likely that they will match 2013 Macbook Air's battery life (12 hours for light usage - recently confirmed by various review sites)? My impression of the Ivy Bridge reviews is that the 15" series 9 has superior battery life than the 2012 macbook air, so I hope haswell series 9 will stay close, at least.

Also, having never owned a Samsung laptop, I have a more general question (for point of reference, I have been using Thinkpads for last few years). How much crapware comes pre-installed on the series 9?

 

Samsung are premiering some new products in London on 20th June. We may then find out what is proposed for the Series 9 (recently renamed as the Ativ Book 9). The existing 15" Series 9 is capable of up to 10 hours on battery so Haswell should get that to 12 or more. However the 15" Series 9 is somewhat bigger than the Air.

There are some superfluous Samsung programs on the current Series 9s. However, they are relatively easy to identify and uninstall.

John

 

But only a 1/2 lb heavier, all it needs is a decent 1080p panel. That Samsung has neglected this for so long is a mystery, as they are able to manufacture panels themselves. Then again, they also make SSDs.

Or on W8 you can "refresh" the OS in a few minutes which returns it to a state where only software update is installed.

 

In addition to this information, you should consider another data point. Although I dig the Series 9, the Apple products command a MUCH higher re-sale value if you decide to sell a used machine.

You can blame Samsung for this and confusion they have introduced in the Series 9 models over the past 18 months. One minute they are selling a machine for $1499+ retail, then next minute they introduce a model that retails for $899. Unless you are an expert on chipsets, it is difficult to tell the difference so they hosed the re-sale market.

I am still interested in the 15", but it largely depends on the price and screen.

 

A member stumbled on what appears to be the 13" Ativ Book 9 numbering system: NP940X3G. There's a listing here with 4G/128. There's currently no hits for NP930X3G (ie different touch / no touch versions as on the Series 7) or NP940X4G (a 15" equivalent).

John

 

I need Windows and I need TPM. I also want very light and as long a battery life as possible without using sheet batteries or batteries that stick out. Is Samsung Series 9 the best choice? I also very much like Lenovo Thinkpad Carbon, but it does not seem to have as long battery life.

 

My wish: Optional Windows 7 with a large, high quality, matte HD screen (15-17 inch), 8-16GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, weight 3.5 lbs (or less) and a PCMark7 performance of 4500 or higher.

Unfortunately, most notebook vendors are releasing notebooks with Windows 8 and small 13 inch glossy touch-screens. (like the Sony Vaio Pro 13). I don't need touch and I don't need Windows 8. Lenovo is one of the few manufacturers that gives you a choice between Windows 7 and Windows 8. Perhaps that is why Lenovo is the most successful PC company right now. I hope Samsung can do the same.

 

UPDATE:

NP900X4C - NOT listed anymore

Listed models:

NP900X4D-A03 (Just B-Stock) (1)
NP900X3D-A02 - Available (<35)
NP900X3D-A03 - Available (<150)
NP900X3E-A05 - Available (<15)
NP900X3E-A06 - BLOCKED (0)

So I think at 20th June, the 15" Models (NP900X4*) will be replaced completely while the 13" (NP900X3*) is still in stock/production at samsung.

 

Lets just cross our fingers and hope. Just returned my 770z5e, so 15 inch 9-series with matte full HD screen is on my wishlist

 

So what is the difference between the E and F models. Seems weird. Amazon has the NP900X3E-K01US which is i7/256 for $1499 and the NP900X3F-K01US which is i5/128 for $1099. The price differences are expected but both are K01USs and that makes no sense.

 

The K01US suffix is a sub-product identifier (the US means USA except Best Buy models are UB). There's nothing wrong with having K01US versions of both the X3E and the X3F. What does puzzle me, however, is why there is an X3F and not just another version of the X3E. The specs suggest that the F is slightly thicker and slightly lighter but there's no obvious change in appearance.

John

 

The most obvious change in fact is the appearance


left X3E - right X3F

 

Thanks for reminding me: The F has lost the shiny bits that add a bit of style. However, there's no change in other aspects such as the ports.

John

 

Update again:

NP900X3D-A02 - Available (<30)
NP900X3D-A03 - Available (<150)
NP900X3E-A05 - Available (<15)

All other models are GONE (not listed anymore). So all 15 inch Series 9 devices are out of stock without replacement or new shipping date.

 

Now something strange happend...

This is listed when I search for 900x4*:

NP900X 4C-A08 B-STOCK: (900X4 are 15" models)
Details:
13,3 Inch, HD+, 8GB Ram, Win8 with 256GB SSD
CPU: i5-3317U

I think this is a mistake/typo....

Technical Details are still Ivy Bridge 15" Series 9....

 

Hi all,

Been following this thread with interest for 6 months or so. I would really like to get a 15" series 9 (or ATIV book if they must). So much so that I wrote a letter to Samsung to let them know what specs they need to be putting on it. I think my views align with a lot on here.

Maybe Samsung will notice.

Cheers!

 

Cool!
Did Samsung reply to your letter?
Does anyone know if Samsung monitors this forum?