No successor to Ativ Series 9 / Book 9 15 inch screen model (NP900X4C/D)?

If Samsung ignores refreshing the 15 inch version of Series 9, it will be really disappointing and after a long wait, I don't know where I should go. Does any one know about future releases or info about Ativ Book 9 Plus 15 inch screen?

 

@andex: I don't personally know anything that's not already out there. But what you're asking is the subject of extensive discussion in various threads during the day. I suggest you check the following threads:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/samsung/722485-samsung-event-london-today.html
http://forum.notebookreview.com/samsung/703622-next-samsung-series-9-release.html
http://forum.notebookreview.com/samsung/722548-samsung-ativ-book-9-plus-haswell-new.html

If you want, I can move your post to one of these threads (and I would close this thread in that case). Otherwise, if you don't get a response here, you can re-post your question in another thread after 24 hours.

 

I feel the absence of 15 inch screen is a big deal and we need to have a separate thread so that Samsung can easily see it. Don't you think so?

 

Absence of 15 inch screen is a big deal and we need to have a separate thread.

I registered just for the sake of telling you guys, and Samsung as well, that I too want a 15" matte. And I won't buy anything else. As one might say: "Samsung - shut up and take my money"

 

Yeah, I'm complaining too, but maybe we must admit that non-touch laptops are not wanted for the general population. Since Windows 8, all stores I'n my country promotes the glossy touch screens, there are very few matte screens left. Some have Samsung Series 7 Ultra, which is the best alternative for me, but I would prefer a 15".

 

I looked at my distributor: All 900X4 models are out-dated. Samsung does not produce the 15" Series 9 any longer.
They will be sold unti they are out of stock - Thats It. - If you need one, buy one NOW with the bad TN-Panel, there won't be a new one with FHD and IPS in the next time.

 

It's fine, I really just meant to let you know about those other discussions and offer to move your post there if you wanted.

I since see that you posted links to this thread and got some activity here, and that's what counts. I DO think we'll now have the same discussion in four threads (instead of three), but I am not big on telling people where they can and cannot post -- as long as they stay within the forum rules about cross posting.

 

We have to hope that Samsung are quietly developing a non-glossy non-touch improved 15", perhaps with a stronger focus on the needs of business users.

There's no indication that anyone in Samsung reads this forum otherwise we would have seen a change from the proprietary Samsung VGA port / micro HDMI to a mini DisplayPort in the new models. There's something wrong when the internal resolution exceeds the external display capabilities.

John

 

I too want the Samsung 15" series 9 Haswell with a 1080p matte (non-touch) screen and a 512 GB SSD - ideally with a choice between WIndows 7 and WIndows 8.

If Samsung can upgrade the existing Series 9 15" with a Haswell CPU and a better display it will have a winner!

 

+1
What other options are there for 15" FHD matte (none-touch). Ultrabook-ish mashine?

 

If Samsung was going to produce and sell a 15" model, it would be on full display yesterday. Announcing the discontinuation isn't normally done so no news is bad news.

At least that is my opinion.

I don't think a 15" will materialize. If they are planning it, it would have made sense to talk about it yesterday considering all the press they had around the event.

 

It's all purely speculation at this point.

My gut feeling is the press launch was centred around new and innovative products. Of which a 15" HD Laptop would not be one of them.

 

Let's take your post literally and look at it the other way. Touch is not wanted by the general population, but wanted for...

On the other hand it's maybe still early to make a conclusion. The Series 7 hasn't got a haswell refresh yet as well. I doubt they will be discontinued.

 

I'm also hoping for a 15" version of the ATIV Book 9 Plus. I could go with either glossy or matte, but prefer matte.

 

I feel better as I am not the only one worried. In my view, they might have decided to discontinue it. I think it is very easy to improve NP900X4D with wifi fixes and IPS or PLS screen with the same or HD resolution but they preferred to go big on the small 13 inch screen two times one with NP900X3E and again yesterday on Ativ book 9 plus. So I guess, the have decided to discontinue it.

 

Yep, that's the correct way to phrase this. Well, this is simple for me: No Windows 7, no deal.

 

Windows 8 Pro comes with Windows 7 downgrade rights. This is one reason for my suggestion that Samsung offer a 15" with a stronger business focus. I'm sure there's a significant market out there among the business users whose eyes are getting old and want a bigger screen than 13.3" without a lot of weight.

John

 

Yes, I know. Of course, that's only useful if you can get drivers for Windows 7, too.

Yep, that's me...

 

me too...disappointing "event" for me - shame on you Samsung...

 

Shame on Samsung is the word, I also signed in just to express my deep disappointment : there is a gaping hole in the market about high resolution and light 15" PC ! (even on non-Haswell devices there is nothing below 2.1 kg with decent screen).

As someone said (if the following characteristics are met) : "Samsung, take my money"

1) 15" screen, glossy or matte (but matte would be best --> touchscreen = useless)
2) haswell chip
3) weight < 1.6 kg

 

You just use desktop in win 8 to become parallel with Win 7 experience. After using win 8 for some time I truly don't understand the disdain for it.

 

+1, that's the only thing I want too, I am searching now for alternatives from other brands, like lenovo, any with those specs and at least:

- 8 GB RAM
- 128 GB SSD
- i7 haswell

Let's hope samsung reconsider and act as microsoft did with the xbox one taking the users feedback.

 

It is good if they reconsider their ignorance. I don't know if there is any 15inch laptop as light as Series 9. Does Lenovo has something close?

 

Here there is a thin powerfull asus 13inch ultrabook (asus zenbook infinity)
ASUS Zenbook Infinity Ultrabook Specifications, Price, Reviews and Gallery

And here a lenovo 14inch that could get better when they upgrade to 4th gen proccesors.
IdeaPad U410 Touch | Lenovo (US)

 

That one is in the same size range as the 13.3" Samsung series 9 (ATIV Book 9).

That one is heavier and has a smaller, lower resolution, display than the 15"Series 9.

The Thinkpad X1 Carbon is nearer to being an alternative to the 15" Series 9. However, the display is a size smaller. Products such as the Thinkpad 431s fall in the same category.

AFAIK, Samsung's 15.0" panel is unique and their claim that it is a 15" screen in a 14" notebook is just about true. The 15" Macbook Retina is a similar size of display but in a significantly heavier notebook and all the 15.6" notebooks are significantly bigger and heavier.

We just have to hope that Samsung are investing in a better quality 15.0" display and will take advantage of this unique product that fits between the 14" and 15.6" sizes.

John

 

Wait MS listens to the end user? This is news to me. The only evidence I've seen that Samsung listens to customer feedback is the new AB9P has improved backlit keyboard, because there were complaints the old lighting was only functional and not stylish.

 

John, Thank you for the info.

 

Anyone find info about 900x4c successor??
I read in other topic that someone finds name of model Samsung ativ 9 lite, maybe someone find next model 900x4c??
I would like to see the same notebook, but with new processor (haswell), but I can't find any info about it, even in Poland is hard to buy current version 900x4c-a03pl

 

As far as I know and according to this thread there is no haswell 15 inch Samsung ativ book 9. There was successor for NP900x4C but it is only with ivy bridge processor. It is called NP900X4D

 

So given that there is likely no 15" series 9... what are people leaning towards?

I'm going between the Asus 15" Zenbook and the Lenovo X1 Carbon. But I can't decide.

The Zenbook is
* better graphics
* larger screen
* memory a little more upgradable (I need as much as I can get as a developer)
* heavier at 4.5lbs

The Carbon is:
* light
* good keyboard
* crappy screendoor effect on screen

The real thing holding me back from the Zenbook is that it has the same Intel wifi chip as the Samsung, and I just returned a Series 9 due to the wifi not working well.

Anyone have any thoughts?

 

I feel, hp Elitebook folio is a good option with 14 inch screen and 3.6 Ibs. It can handle a full sized ssd.

 

"Likely" is overstating the current knowledge of the situation. We don't know what is happening and Samsung have given no recent clues. There's a lot of unknowns arising from last week's show.

The current options are either (i) grab one of the available 15" S9s - the display is a good TN panel but not up the the IPS / PLS standard; or (ii) wait to see what both Samsung and others have to offer with the Haswell platform.

I'm planning to upgrade my X4C with the 480 GB Crucial mSATA SSD once they are available. I've toyed with the possibility of swapping the mainboard to get a CPU upgrade from the 3315U to the 3517U. However, I might not notice the ~20% increase in speed. I briefly considered the Ativ Book 8 with quad core CPU but then remembered that there's not only the extra weight of the computer but also the much bigger PSU (90W instead of 40W).

John

 

John, I don't disagree with you on this. However, If there was any refresh, wouldn't we have heard at least an announcement date or rumor of it? Also, don't you think it is easy to upgrade the current 15 inch X4Cs and X4Ds? If not easy, what makes it so hard to refresh it? The last version of the 15 inch is only NP900X4D and there was a refresh for the 13 inch - NP900X3E, before haswell. Unfortunately, not talk about the 15 inch for so long. I feel, there are two scenarios.
1, they have silently discontinued it
2. they have some major bug, difficulty in improving the display, maintaining the battery life, etc.

 

Figured I would echo the sentiments on the off chance someone from Samsung is reading. I too have been hoping for an upgraded 15" Series 9 with matte panel (touch/non touch doesn't matter to me though), display port instead of VGA, wifi card fixes, and the other improvements seen with the new 13" model.

 

3. they are unable to procure enough haswell chips/boards/displays to roll out. note apple has not announced the mbpr update either.
4. they want to clear out ivy stock/sell as many high-markup plus models as possible first

It's early yet, if we haven't heard anything by back to school, then it's probably dead.

 

There's been no word about the Haswell refresh for the 2013 Series 7 / Ativ Book 8 either, but that will be a simple board update in an existing model. If Samsung only plan to update the X4 with new screen and board then there won't be any fancy launch.

We just have to wait, perhaps for several months, and see if anything happens.

John

 

The bad thing is that there is no really other "ultrabook" with 15' screen, i mean there is a zenbook or something but series 9 was kinda a good compromise between performance, size, weight and price. What i didn`t like was that there wasn`t any 8gb ram versions of it.

 

The 15" Series 9 has 2 SODIMM slots and will run with up to 16GB RAM (it is the 13.3" that has the fixed 4GB RAM although the new Book 9 Plus is reported to have an 8GB option). I find it to be the ideal compromise between screen size and weight. The one significant drawback is that the current X4C/X4D doesn't have such as good quality display as the 13.3" Series 9 (but, after calibration, it is still well above average with no problems such as the screen door effect).

John

 

Thanks for clarifications, i always wanted to buy one but i said that i should wait for haswell cpu-s because of the battery life and maybe they will add an 1080p to the 15' version, i really hope they won`t abandon the 15' 13.3 is just a bit to little for me.

 

What about this Vizio Ultrabook?
VIZIO 15.6

- 8gb ram
- intel core i7
- 1080p 15.6 inch screen
- 256gb ssd

And probably they will get the haswell upgrade soon. Any thoughts?

 

Nearly five pounds (vs. 3.5), but a slightly bigger screen and QM cpu. AFAIK Vizio is not known for their quality. I don't believe there is anything in the exact same class as the 15" S9. You need quality construction to make something that thin and light with minimal flex.

 

Could you tell me what is worse in X4C/X4D than X3C?

I have 1 new questions and 1 information for you.


1. Could you tell what is diffrent in x4c and x4d? Because I can't find 4xd version with i7 256GB SSD and 8GB, in Poland are only x4c. X4d are available, but only with i5.
2. I got information that 15" version with haswell will be available on August (the information was from Poland store, they wrote to Samsung and Samsung wrote it).

 

The main difference between the x4c and x4d is the chassis material and external finish. The x4d finish is silver like a MacBook Air.

If the 15" is coming in a few weeks with a Haswell chipset, I would certainly wait and see what the specs are before purchasing anything else.

 

1. From what I read,
- X4C has aluminum finish and X4D has magnesium finish. As a result there is a weight difference. X4C is 3.6 Ib and x4D is 3.5Ibs.
- As mentioned by Thor, there is color difference. X4D is silver color and X4C is mineral ash.
- X4C has no TPM security, X4D has TPM security.

Other wise, there is no other difference but the processor, RAM and SSD configuration could differ from country to country.

2. This is the kind of news that I was looking for. Would you elaborate on the news further.

 

My bad, I got confused with an older model VIZIO CT15-A4, it's an i5, 128 SSD, 4RAM 15.6 model. Anyways maybe the next gen with haswell processors could be thin and light as this one and powerfull as we expect.

 

You 100% sure about that? Some of the X3D's didn't have the TPM chip.

 

I never figured out which versions of the Series 9s came with the TPM chip. Logically, it would be those which were shipped with the Pro version of Windows.

Has anyone ever compared the motherboard part numbers for the different versions?

John

 

What is the TPM?

 

Trusted Platform Module - a security feature.

John

 

SkuterPL, could you tell me what shop that was and include the whole message, please? (I'm from Poland, too)