Samsung Chronos Series 7 VGA Dongle $$$?

, the Samsung Chronos Series 7 VGA Dongle cost so much $29?

Been shopping for the NP700Z5B on ebay and newegg and it seem like they usually don;t come with the adapter?

you get the i7 quad for $750 (free shipping even) but have to shell $30 for propriety dongle?

Anyone know of a replacement? Does any other model/manuf use the same plug and have adapter for less?

I want to use VGA dongle and HDMI to drive two external monitors when at desk.

 

google shopping search

Samsung VGA adapter 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15) - female - PC

 

Samsung AA-AH1NAMB/US Micro HDMI To VGA Adapter

"Micro HDMI To VGA Adapter"

Amazon.com: Samsung AA-AH1NAMB/US Micro HDmi To VGA Adapter: Electronics

Micro hdmi VGA | eBay

 

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I may be wrong, but I believe it's a 12pin connector (#B), I don't even know if the form is the same.. Maybe it doesn't matter, and the other 3 pins are used as a return path or something. If anyone has actually used anything else I'd love to know! I travel a lot and hate being bound to mail order for replacements for lost/broken parts.

 

I've done a search on this proprietary Samsung DisplayPort (or whatever it is) to VGA adapter like the links in the thread and 4/4 vendors had it on back order with 1month + lead time or they're charging north of $45 for the adapter.

Is anyone able to give an example of which HDMI to VGA dongle to use in this situation? I did a search, but came across enough cord types to make my head spin, not sure which apply to in this situation.

 

I have ordered one of these from a Samsung UK service agent. According to their system, Samsung UK have a few in stock. I will find out next week, when it shows up (or not). However, I agree that it's excessively expensive considering the production cost. I think that basic VGA connectivity should be included with all the samsung notebooks.

John

 

broke down and just got this:
Amazon.com: Samsung Chronos Series 7 VGA Dongle: Camera & Photo

$29.51 + $2.99 shipping

read somewhere that there is a chip in it

someone should buy this and let us know if it works -hahaha
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I'm cancelling the order mentioned above. The stock at Samsung UK clearly doesn't exist and the latest eta is 8th May.

I've now ordered one of these plus this adaptor. The problem is that the adaptor will block the adjacent ports on the S9 so I need to search harder for an adaptor with a short cable (I couldn't find one yesterday).

John

 

So you think the samsung's plug is a pure 'micro-HDMI' port and not a proprietary one? Crap i didn't need a vga and prefer two HDMIs. If so then any HDMI(micro converted) -to- VGA plug should work also... Please let us know if this works for you.

(fyi HDMIs are easily converted to DVIs)

Amazon.com: Fosmon HDMI to Micro HDMI Cable (6 Feet): Electronics

Amazon.com: AmazonBasics HDMI to DVI Adapter Cable (9.8 Feet/3.0 Meters): Electronics

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm under the impresion from what I've read somewhere in this forum that the port is a standard micro HDMI. After all, anyone getting a standard micro HDMI to HDMI cable to connect to an external display would expect it to fit and work.

The annoying thing is that the dongle to fit the VGA port is a simple pass-through connector which should only cost a couple of dollars (and is sensibly included in the box). Yet the only place listing that dongle in the UK is wanting even more money than for the micro HDMI to VGA dongle (and based on my experience trying to get the latter, I doubt if it is in stock).

John

 

Just bumping this thread because I was just introduced to the same problem.

Got a Chronos 7 without the dongle and I need to connect 2 external displays.

Did, since April, anyone found a suitable dongle to work on the Chronos 700Z3C or 700Z5C ?

Thx in advance,

 

I too just realized I was stuck with this proprietary crap. Proprietary dongles? What is this, 1987?

I got a refurb 700Z5B-S01UB which does not come with the dongle. I can confirm this port is not the same dimensions as mini-HDMI (I tried this, which I already had for another PC: Newegg.com - Nippon Labs Premium 6 ft. HDMI to mini HDMI cable with metal hood & gold-plated connectors Model MHDMI-6 , which is clearly not a fit)

Can anyone confirm if it's true we can't use the HDMI and this port along with internal display simultaneously? What about just both external displays at the same time? I've got HDMI/internal working fine, but need a VGA out for a current project.

This is the "best" deal I've found:
Amazon.com: Samsung Chronos Series 7 VGA Dongle: Camera & Photo

MrJxN

 

The straight through VGA adapter should give a better signal than the digital-analog converted in the HDMI - VGA adapter.

John

 

Has *anyone* had any luck with third party adapters for this ridiculous Samsung Display Port? I've seen some mixed reviews of micro HDMI to VGA adapters on Amazon - these mostly involve using Series 9 and some Series 7 Slates. Not being a Samsung product expert, myself, I don't know if the S7 has the same port(s).

I have a mini DisplayPort adapter that works with MacBooks, but this connector is nothing like that.

@John Ratsey, can you be more specific as to what you're referring to with regards to a straight-through VGA adapter? Are you referring to the Samsung (proprietary) VGA Dongle that seems to be the subject of Internet-wide price-gouging, or something else? Would you happen to have any first-hand knowledge of the successful use of anything other than the Samsung dongle?

I'd really like to get one of these for my notebook bag as I've run across several client sites that had monitors and projectors that did not support HDMI. Plus, if this port is actually a "standard" mini HDMI port (which the Samsung dongle converts to VGA) I'd also like to be able to use 2 HDMI monitors on this machine when at my desk. *That* would be a considerable productivity enhancement for me!

 

I was lucky that a VGA dongle came with my old NP700Z3A. I've used it and it works; but I really don't think it's a micro-HDMI, I think it is a proprietary VGA adapter. Personally, I always use the HDMI port instead: Picture quality is better and you don't have to use a dongle.

All recent projectors and monitors have HDMI or DVI, but of course older ones don't. And if you're presenting in a room with AV hookup, they often don't have HDMI either.

Update: The dongle that came with mine is marked AA-AV1N12B. Maybe that'll help you locate the right type -- and avoid the wrong ones.

 

The "pass-through" VGA dongle is a Samsung special for which no one else seems to created an alternative cheaper version. The VGA dongle is the same for the Series 7 and Series 9 (see packaging label here.

As a dumb piece of electronics it should be a <$5 part that is included for free. However, for reasons best known to Samsung the VGA dongle is more expensive than the HDMI-VGA adapter which includes a digital-analog converter chip (hence such a big housing for the socket) and there are third party solutions for the latter although I found the Samsung adapter to give a better (but not good) picture.

As noted above, use a digital input to a display if possible. Unfortunately, there are still some devices around which only take VGA.

John

 

@Dannemand: Thanks, as far as I can tell, that's the one I think I'm looking for. There are two that seem to be available on Amazon and I really didn't want to go through the exchange process. Recently I've had to use an amazing variety of projection devices and have resorted to carrying an old Asus 1018p which has a VGA port - just in case. Of course that means I've got to carry more stuff, *and* keep my presentation materials synced between three machines since I usually prepare that material on a dual-monitor workstation.

@John Ratsey: Wow, thank you so much for that particular link. That clears up an area of confusion regarding the S7's "Display Port"! In trying to locate this part, I've noticed that some users on Amazon have reported success with their "Samsung laptop" using the 3rd party HDMI-to-VGA adapters while others have had problems. Further, I've seen the S7's inane proprietary port referred to as mini DisplayPort, micro DisplayPort, micro USB, mini HDMI, mini VGA and others - so finding a proper 3rd party solution seems to be simply impossible.

Meanwhile, the Samsung part AA-AV1N12B seems to be in and out of stock almost everywhere, with the emphasis on *out*. Not to mention the fact that those dealers claiming to have them are pricing their inventory with markups ranging from 20 percent to over 100 percent! And, even though those prices are not outside my range, I really hate to encourage that kind of profiteering.

The situation overall reflects very badly on Samsung. Especially considering the fact that we're talking about a passive piece of wire here with the connectors providing the "value-added" element. So I heartily agree, this isn't 1987, and proprietary "crap" like this needs to be included - and not used as a means for Samsung to gouge their loyal customer base. That just really doesn't seem like a good long-term customer-relations policy to me!

Thanks again. I now understand that the micro HDMI ports are the ones on the Ultrabooks (which apparently also have these VGA-dongle ports) while the S7, and probably the S5, use only the VGA-dongle ones. That clears up this situation, finally!

 

Actually, it is even more confusing than that, as there are differences even within each series. I believe the 17 inch Series 7 (NP700Z7C) both has full size HDMI, full-size VGA and a genuine Mini DisplayPort. I think the Series 5 ultrabooks use the same mini VGA-port and dongle as the smaller Series 7 models.

All of which merely reinforces your point that Samsung should include whichever dongle is compatible with each model. I think they used to do that: Again, my old Series 7 Sandy Bridge included one, and so did a Series 5 ultrabook I tested before that. But at some point a newly graduated marketing wiz got the idea to save $1 on each unit by skipping the dongle AND make $40 each time they sold a dongle

 

So I've had the Series 7 Chronos for about a year, but now finally need the VGA adapter next week for a presentation- and it's sold out EVERYWHERE, including samsungparts.com.

Has anyone found any dongles/cables/whatever that will at least put a respectable image onto a projector? Doesn't need to be perfect, but needs to get me a through an hour meeting.

...just echoing how frustrating these proprietary parts are.

 

@sheffpc: Here is what I suggest (elaborating on what John described above):

1) Make sure you bring an HDMI-HDMI cable. If it is a recent projector, it will have HDMI input -- and you get better picture quality and easier connection than using VGA.

2) Bring an HDMI-DVI adapter. If the projector has DVI input (as some do) you can still use the same HDMI cable from your Sammy. OR alternatively, bring an HDMI-DVI cable.

3) Bring an HDMI-VGA adapter (which contains a DAC). Of course you will need a VGA cable as well -- although most clients should have one with their projector.

This way you should be covered -- and get the best picture their projector can give you.

I recommend monoprice.com for all stuff like that. Excellent quality cables and adapters at a fraction of the price you see elsewhere. Unfortunately I couldn't find the HDMI-VGA adapter on their site -- maybe I didn't try hard enough. Otherwise Amazon, of course, but you never know what you're gonna get when you buy cheap stuff there.

Update: Monoprice also has this Mini-DVI to VGA Adapter.

I wonder if it is different from the usual Micro-HDMI and is actually what Samsung uses. DVI supports analog (which HDMI doesn't) so I guess this could be it. For $5.60 is worth checking...

 

Two points:

1. The mini VGA port on the right side of the Series 9 is different from the micro HDMI port on the left side. The VGA spec requires 14 pins and, on close scrutiny I can see 13 (perhaps the casing is the other).



2. Get a short micro HDMI to HDMI adapter cable such as this. It avoids blocking the adjacent ports and the thin cable minimises stressing the micro HDMI port which would happen if you use a rigid adapter such as this in conjunction with standard HDMI cables.

John

 

Oh, I didn't even realize Series 9 used micro HDMI. That makes it five different external monitor connectors now on various Samsung models:

1) Full-size HDMI (on Series 7 and 5)

2) Micro HDMI (on Series 9)

3) Mini DisplayPort (on Series 7 17 inch)

4) Full-size VGA (on Series 7 17 inch, Series 7 Gamer, presumably various other non-slim models)

5) The now infamous mini-VGA (on all models that don't have full-size VGA)

As I mentioned in my last post, I am very curious if the mini-VGA could turn out to be an analog mini-DVI, compatible with that $5 dongle from Monoprice. Reading comments from buyers, I gather it was a port used on Macs a few years ago for connecting to VGA monitors.

 

I doubt if this plug on the MonoPrice cable



will fit into the Samsung mini VGA port (see my photo above).

john

 

You're right, John. If that is the mini-DVI plug it won't fit in the Samsung mini-VGA. So much for that theory

Update: For anyone looking to buy from Monoprice soon, I just saw the following 10% off Monoprice deal on techbargains.com. It's difficult to spend much money at Monoprice, so 10% may not be much. Still, a few bucks

 

It seems like this dongle problem has been roaming the net for a while. I was about to order the CDW AA-AV1N12B connection when I found that perhaps AA-AV2N12B (note the 2) might work. I just ordered it from Amazon at 34.99. I'll post here if it works in about a week when I get it in. Crossing my fingers!!!

 

I order the mine from here..

SAMSUNG AA-AV2N12B/E AA-AV2N12B/E | eBay

 

The prices are now looking more reasonable than before, but there's still a big profit margin for a piece of wire with a plug at each end.

John