Samsung NP930X5J / NP940X5J ATIV Book 9 (2014) 15.6" Haswell announced Jan 6, 2014

I finally seem to have managed to make the Crucial M550 run in LPM low power mode.

1) I put the M550 in Slot 0 and removed the Samsung SSD alltogether

2) I uninstalled Intel RST using windows 7 uninstall

3) In Device Manager --> "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers"
i uninstalled the Intel(R) 8 Series SATA AHCI Controller
the system reboots twice

4) in Device Manager --> "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers " I then uninstalled
ATA Channel 0
Standard AHCI1.o Serial ATA Controller
(make sure you click the "remove the driver" box. This is important.

4. I then installed the latest RST Version 12.​9.​0.​1001 from the Intel download center
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/De...apid+Storage+Technology+(Intel®+RST)&lang=eng

(I intentionally did not install RST Ver 12.9.3.1000 from Samsung SW Update.)

Result: My power consumption in idle is down from 10 Watts to about 8 Watts now.
(I am not sure which of the above steps actually fixed the problem.)
(For some reason, RST Ver 12.9.3.1000 from Samsung SW Update now fails to install, but I do not really care.)

 

FHD is an option in Europe but, surprisingly, I can't see it listed on the Dell US site.

Is that with a relatively bright display and the Samsung SSD put back in?

You should be looking for below 6W on minimum brightness and no web browser or other resource-hungry programs running.

John

 

It is with medium display and web browser running, but without the Samsung SSD in the second slot.
But you are right, the "minimum" column of HwInfo shows 6.2 Watts. So LPM is working now - I am so happy!!!!

 

Thanks everybody for your responses. While size does matter, I probably would give a try to a 14 screen for an otherwise perfect configuration. But, lenovo has 128 ssd, 4g, and I do not see where I can configure it, and if I do, it probably going to bump the price to unreasonable level, and also its battery life seems to be considerably shorter. My wife has MBPr, and it is too heavy. I am afraid that 3.9 is not what I will be completely happy with, but I am willing to try, and at least I know that i 'pay' extra in weight for extra real estate on the screen, which is useful for me. Thus, xps goes as too heavy, too. Dell E7440 is interesting, very business oriented, but with the diff in weight of only 0.3 and no HD, I lean toward trying a larger screen (hope I don't regret it). Also, I do not want to go more than FHD not to be too heavy on a batter and because of scaling. At the same time, I missed HD with 1600x900 (I think that was the resolution of my old one).

So, who knows why the non-touch is 100 more than the touch version? Also, do you think I will notice a difference between i7 and i5 mostly working with documents, listening to audio, occasional streaming, etc.?

Thank you,
Daniel

 

Yeah, there really aren't any good alternatives to this laptop. For its size, performance, and battery life it's unparalleled in the Windows side of things.

 

Hi
Has anybody used the Peacekeeper battery test here
Peacekeeper - free universal browser test for HTML5 from Futuremark
on Samsung NP930X5J / NP940X5J ATIV Book 9 (2014)
This test loops a script that mimics web activity using WiFi.
Please set the laptop to 50% brightness and disable sleep and shutting the screen, then run the test.
Thanks
Toto

 

I ordered the M550 512GB SSD drive. I was thinking about running both that and the OEM drive, but I guess I will just replace the OEM drive and hold on to it. My current ASUS laptop has 256GB and is nearly out of space. 512GB should last me a while. If I start running low on space, I could pop the OEM drive in slot 2 at that time and and take the hit on the battery. I am usually on AC and almost never use the battery for more than 3 or 4 hours at a time (waiting for a flight when there are no AC outlets available).

 

In case anyone wants to know: The NP930X5J can output to a second external 2560x1600 monitor via HDMI. I just tried it.
(The NP900X3C was not able to do this.)

 

You should be able to also have the OEM drive in slot 2 with Low Power Management working, as long as the drivers are set up correctly for the Crucial M550.

I just haven't tried it yet.

 

Thank you for reporting this. 2560x1600@60Hz?

Other members have reported 2560x1600 and 2560x1440 with AB9+ (and other models) but in some cases only at lower refresh rates.

 

Thanks. I guess I can try it that way and see how it does. I don't expect to need the extra disk space for a while. I probably won't need more than four hours of battery either, but you never know.

 

I no longer have the 2560x1600 monitor plugged in.
With my 24" Dell 1920x1200 display (which I prefer) I can chose between 59p Hz and 60p Hz.

p stands for "progressive"

 

hi all, i am new into this forum. I want to know all the pros and cons of this pc samsung ativ book 9 2014 edition. I want to buy it. Thanks all

 

Check out my earlier post:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sam...ll-announced-jan-6-2014-a-42.html#post9657788

Go get it before it sells out!

 

thank for info.
The computer gets very hot when it's stressed? How many hours does battery last? Cpu is powerful when you see streaming films? ssd is fast?

 

Computer never gets really hot. Estimated battery life typically about 4 -12 hours depending on use and screen brightness. CPU has no trouble with streaming videos.
SSD is fast (but not as fast as it could be if it had a PCIe interface like the MacBook Pro). PCMark7: 4678

 

ssd is fast? i read that this ultrabook has an DAC Wolfson for listen music flac lossless.
as you hear the music in the headphones?

 

Samsung says:
"The ATIV Book 9 2014 Edition comes equipped with the pre-installed SPlayer+, an exclusive lossless audio player that works in conjunction with high performance Wolfson DAC chip. -

The ATIV Book 9 2014 Edition comes equipped with a number of features to bring users the same ultra-high quality audio experienced in recording studios with the pre-installed SPlayer+, an exclusive lossless audio player that works in conjunction with high performance Wolfson DAC chip. - See more at: Samsung Introduces Latest in Popular ATIV Line: ATIV Book 9 2014 Edition | Samsung Electronics Official Blog: Samsung Tomorrow

Samsung Introduces Latest in Popular ATIV Line: ATIV Book 9 2014 Edition | Samsung Electronics Official Blog: Samsung Tomorrow

I am looking for the SPlayer+ but I cannot find it anywhere. Does anyone know where to find it?

 

really an software for listen music is foobar2000 with wasapi driver. but you listened music with samsung??

 

touchpad is good??

 

Touchpad is good, but we are waiting for the drivers.

 

Pre-installed in the Samsung apps (930X5J-02SE), seems to work just fine...

 

a what serve the drivers ? also, you could be more specific with regard to the battery? with use usually (wi fi, medium brightness, internet, and some streaming youtube or listen music), average, how long does it last?
thanks

 

Where do I find SPlayer+?
All Programs > Samsung
does not show it for me.

 

About 5 hours with streaming video and my Crucial M550 SSD 512GB)

 

Are you running Windows 7 or Windows 8.1?

I can't see S Player or Samsung Apps listed in SW Update for your model.

John

 

Have I missed the answer, or it is still not in the know? Does anybody know why 30x5j with i7 is listed for 100 more than 40x5j? Is the non-touch screen less reflective than the touch? Where will I feel the difference between i5 and i7 processors with this computer? I will be mostly using it for working with documents, browsing and sometimes streaming video and audio. Thank you.

 

Windows 8.1, non-touch.

 

Do both models you are comparing have the same version of Windows?

You are unlikely to notice the difference between the two CPUs unless you run benchmarks. I reckon that there needs to be at least a 25% difference in the CPU speed to be noticeable in everyday usage.

Thanks.

Huberth's X5J came with Windows 7 Pro and Samsung may have left this out because business customers don't like bloatware. However, they should offer it for download but I can't see it.

John

 

I just googled "Samsung Apps" and found this:
Using the Samsung Apps (S Camera, S Player, S Gallery, S Note) - Samsung ATIV PC

According to the above, Samsung Apps can be downloaded from the Windows Store.

But what if you are running Windows 7?
Perhaps this will work:
http://www.maketecheasier.com/app-store-for-windows-7/

 

I see Amazon has the NP940X5J available for pre-order and it says it will be released this week on May 29th. Anybody know if Best Buy will have them in stock this week as well? I have $150 worth of Best Buy gift cards that I would like to finally use.

 

Don't know about Best Buy, but the 940X5J pre-ordered from Amazon is due to arrive here on June 2, according to the Amazon update.Until then, I continue to enjoy the 930 with the Crucial 512. I get approximately 5 hours on Samsung Optimized, with the screen just a little brighter than on the plan. I am using W7 Pro as loaded from the factory. It is whisper quiet (and I am a real stickler on this), even when watching a Blu-ray ISO. The video is a little choppy when you jump scenes, but it syncs in no time and then is very fluid. The sound is unexpectedly good.

I have ordered an returned a half dozen systems currently on the market,most often because I cannot deal with the super-high resolution some manufacturers provide. My applications don't scale very well and they become useless when the menus get so small. I have also returned because of Wifi or BT problems or fan noise (as I said above, I am VERY sensitive to that). I will keep this system, in either 930, 940, or both. It is plenty powerful, for me, has great battery life, for me, and is extremely well made, something you appreciate when you work with it at length,

I also want to say how grateful I am for this website and particular discussion thread, It has been enormously useful to me on this system as well as others.

I generally don't post, but I did want to say this, if any of it is helpful (I know others have said as much earlier in the thread.

 

Review finally came,it seems 900X4C is still battery winner ,and that's why ,my winner.They still got one 900X4C in Slovenia so I better hurry up:
Test Samsung ATIV Book 9 2014 (NP930X5J-K02DE) Ultrabook - Notebookcheck.com Tests
This is for crying, Samsung was so close to perfect notebook,so close.They should only putt new processor and find 15" IPS matte screen ,they didn't have to do anything else.

SAMSUNG, YOU DIDNT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE!!!!! :cry:

UPDATE:Can someone please explain me why Ideapad 530 have better battery life then 930X5J ,considering Ideapad have discrete graphic card and 52Wh battery .
Yes 530 have only 192 cd/m² but wifi test was done with both notebooks on 150 cd/m²
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-U530-Touch-Notebook.115269.0.html

 

For tracking your battery discharge rate, run time and elapsed time I just installed the free version of BatteryBar and I can highly recommend it:

BatteryBar | PCWorld

 

The Ideapad review indicates that the CPU is throttled when running on battery. What does the X5J do? Did the reviewer use Samsung's power saver profile?

But be forewarned that that BatteryBar tries to apply some intelligence to the forecast of run time based on past usage.

John

 

I think they always use Windows Balance mode for testing.
What I am starting to believe ,when I see results of wifi testing of 900X3C,900X4C,900X3G and 930X5J ,that Windows 7 is still using less power when notebook working, not idling.That is only logical explanation if we know 900x3c and 900x3g or 900x4c and 930x5j have same battery.
Or those extra 4GB of RAM with browsing killing battery life?
So my testing was wrong .You know why?Because when I use Mobile broadband on Windows 7 I had Vodafone application which I notice use a lot of CPU resources(it is never under 10%) and on windows 8 I used only Windows Mobile broadband (Network ,right slide)which don't use any or maybe only 1% of CPU.
Windows 7 vs windows 8 vs windows 8.1 battery life benchmarks - YouTube

 

I pre-ordered an NP940X5J from B&H Photo. Their website said it would ship today, three days earlier than Amazon. But it was too much to hope for. It didn't ship and now their website says they will ship "near the end of May". I guess I won't have it to play with this weekend.

 

Does anyone know how I find the Camera Control Panel for my NP930X5J in Windows 7?

I did find the camera driver in Device Manager > Imaging Devices > Webcam SC-10HDP128B24N.
It uses the Microsoft Driver 6.1.7601.18208 dated 6/21/2006

I am trying to make the Skype zoom feature work.
In
Skype > Tools > Options > Video Settings > Webcam Settings > Camera Control
all the settings, including the Zoom Control are greyed out.

 

Good question.

In 2012 Samsung were including the Cyberlink YouCam software with their Windows 7 Series 9s.

You can hunt through your system software recovery disk to see if it is there (it's in folder BASW-12147A on my X4C's disk) but is not listed by SW Update.

John

 

I looked through the SYSTEM RECOVERY DVD that came with it. There does not seem to be anything useful in it - aside from System Recovery.

My NP930X5J may be a pre-release unit and I hope that the Touchpad, Camera and Sound (S-Player+) Control Panels will be coming out in a SW Update soon - perhaps even with the official release of the NP940X5J the day after tomorrow (May 29).

 

The System Recovery disk is the Windows installer. The Software Recovery disk is something the user creates using Samsung Recovery Solution which then backs up the Samsung-specific drivers and software from the files in the recovery partition.

At least, that's the way it worked two years ago.

John

 

You are right. The SYSTEM RECOVERY MEDIA DVD that comes with the NP930X5J contains WIndows 8.1 Pro.

 

But does the backup you can make using Samsung Recovery Solution include a system Software folder and does that contain a long list of sub-folders with cryptic names similar to the one I mentioned. If so, it is worthwhile searching through in case the Cyberlink YouCam software is in there.

John

 

When I try to make a Samsung Recovery backup to an external hard drive, I get a memory error and everything hangs ....

 

Is there the facility within SRS to make a driver/software backup (not a complete recovery backup)? I'm sure that's what I did on my X4C although it was nearly 2 years ago so my memory is fading.

John

 

I don't believe SRS6 has that feature (which SRS5 had) to create a System Software backup containing all drivers. But if huberth's X5J is a Win7 model, he should have it, because those models come with SRS5. (Unless they come from Microsoft Store, in which case they don't have SRS at all).

 

Does anyone else find it interesting that Samsung put a bunch of 930s on the market early, but currently is only listing 940s on their website? And that the 930s officially are Windows 8.1, but happened to come loaded with Windows 7, which is what people generally want, anyway. I feel like I am part of a secret underground movement, which is exciting, but at the same time concerning, since you can't order pizza to your secret hideout, and underground movements generally don't get a lot of support.

 

Yes, I also find it "interesting" and just a little (not a lot) troubling to be honest. When companies do this kind of thing, I always wonder if they are dumping systems that are defective in some way, but these also have a three-year warranty, so go figure. Anyway, I have W7 on my 930, but it has a W8 sticker on the bottom and a W8 recovery disk. The screen of course is glossy. I have a 940 on order, so between the two, I should have at least one I am happy with ;-)

 

Yeah, it's great to be able to buy the ultrabook I want (light, quiet and powerful) with the OS I want (WIn 7).
Welcome to the Samsung Underground.
(And get it while you can!)

 

Yes, I have SamsungRecoverySolution Version 5, but when I try to run the System Software backup to a DVD, after it re-boots I get the DOS type error message (ASCII text on black screen) "INVALID RECOVERY AREA". Is it because I cloned the 256GB Samsung SSD onto a 512GB Crucial SSD?

I googled the Error Message, but could not find a solution:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/samsung/412041-samsung-recovery-solution-3-problem.html

A possible solution would be to put the Samsung SSD back in and then run SRS5. But would the Recovery Disk work properly if I ever needed a restore with the Crucial 512GB SSD?