Samsung R20 notebook (14" widescreen)

Thank you.

For comparison the 3DMark05 scores from my reviews of Samsung notebooks:

Samsung Q35 (Intel 945/950 IGP) = 447

Samsung X60 (ATI X1400) = 2264

Samsung X60 plus (ATI X1700) = 4150

The 1250M is a bit over half as fast as the X1400 and only about 3 x faster than the Intel IGP in this benchmark (it was over 4 x faster in 3DMark06 which gives more emphasis to recent enhancements). That X1700 is powerful but consumes power and generates heat, even when doing little.

John

 

I 've found other review (well more or less)
http://www.emigrando.org/2007/04/05/samsung-r20-no-es-oro-todo-lo-que-reluce-a-veces-solo-es-chiste/
It is in Spanish (I´m Spanish BTW). The guy said that is a quite bad notebook. Some drawbacks:
-the guy doesn't like Windows Vista (well, I think this is not a R20 fault, isn't it? )
-problem with Linux drivers (not surprising in a new notebook)
-bad battery, only 1h 50 min, only 2600 mAh (yes, quite low capacity)
-heat (CPU temperature>60ºC) (perhaps a problem with speedstep in linux? the reviewer measured that in Ubuntu)
-noise
IMHO the reviewer is a bit biased, but, well it's another review of course

 

Kosh, I've just read the full review. Thanks for the link. I'm not totally surprised with the battery, but I am with noise and heat, which are factors important to me. I hope more R20 users can share their experience with it on this topic, mainly Vista users.

 

Well some criticism in the rewiew are not very important (the Vista thing) but the others ...
If you have any problem with spanish language in the review you can ask (sorry I don't translate it but it`s too much text for me) I hope that being a "neighbour", bluesyrio, you won't have problems to understand the review

BTW I have found the R20 T7200/2GB at 1.200 Euros ere in Spain (in a shop, online it´s slightly cheaper)

 

Thanks, I think I understood everything. The "neighbour" factor does help without a doubt.

I've been looking around in spanish online shops and have seen from 1134 to 1200 euros, but I haven't found any giving the possibility to include a PT keyboard. If you do know any, I'd really appreciate that info. The keys are not totally different (I've written in a ES keyboard before), but I'd rather have it in PT.

I've been in this big dilemma on which notebook to choose from and the heat and noise are really an important point... I guess one of the problems is that the R20 is such a brand new model with no mid-term experience reviews and very few short-term ones.

 

Thanks for the link and the key points raised in the review.

We know that a lot of people are not enthusiastic about Vista (I have yet to try it) partly due to unfamiliarity. In UK Samsung are releasing one lower spec model (512MB RAM, 80GB HDD, with XP Pro). However, I suspect that Microsoft is selling Vista to the computer manufacturers at a discount in order to be able to claim a high adoption rate.

Historically, ATI and Linux have not got well, and the R20 uses an ATI chipset. I believe that ATI are now taking Linux support more seriously and a check on the ATI website reveals a very recent (28 March) Linux driver. Maybe this overcomes the problems reported in that review.

The battery is only 4 cell and only good for around 2 hours, perhaps approaching 3 with good power management.

A CPU temperature is slightly higher than average, but it depends where it is measured. If it is the core temperature, and the computer itself is not excessively hot, then there's nothing wrong. However, as you suggest, speedstep may not be working properly under Linux and the CPU is running hotter (and battery life also reduced). It is more important to know what happens using Vista, which is the supplied and supported operating system.

And if speedstep was not working then the fan would also be more active.

Could R20 owners please comment on the CPU temperature and fan noise when running under Vista?? I believe that MobileMeter (which reports the ACPI temperature) works with Vista. RMClock should be able to read the CPU core temperatures but may have some compatibility problems with Vista.

John

 

did a second run of 3dmark 2005 - 1269

well, my C&C 3 runs fine at 1280x800 with all the settings set to the lowest. When set to highest, it is not playable, graphic is way too jerky and slow.

 

using ac power.

according to RMCLOCK it is 44c. (I am living in HK)

 

The R20 can run hot at about 4-5 hours constant use however if you leave it without doing anything (idle) it cools really quickly. The battery life is as expected but as I have stated previously, you can power manage the notebook by choosing a different setting.

noisewise.......The DVD drive can be a bit noisy when accessing lots of data on the disk but I would say its on par with any other notebooks/laptops out there ( I have tried a few!!)

 

Yes, I more or less can understand Portuguese ... (I see in your "What notebook to buy" thread that you are from Portugal)

Yes the same prices I see (probably the same webs: Optize, Abbys ...). I have found one shop in my city where it cost 1.200 so I'd probably bought there (If I buy it ...)

Sorry, but I haven't any spanish online shop where you can choose the keyboard

I understand, I think exactly the same

I don't need the notebook NOW, so perhaps I'll wait.

 

Yes, I am from Portugal. I was guessing you had seen that topic.

For me, it would come handy to buy it now, but I've waited so long... actually coming so close to the Santa Rosa launch, maybe might as well wait a bit more. The LG P1 has had price drops recently here in PT. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with this new Intel Centrino platform. Maybe with the Santa Rosa it will drop even more and then I can decide if I want the LG P1 with the current version (hoping it is cheaper) or a Santa Rosa version or a Samsung R20. Or even maybe the R70 (which I bet will have Santa Rosa), but only in June...

I guess that saying "You should buy a notebook when you need it, not when new the latest version comes out" is very wise. But when you've waited so much, you can wait a little bit more. So far my 5 year and half notebook has not gone dead. It's just painfully slow.

 

hello guys,
i just got my R20!its great n all but i cant seem to get it connected to my netgear dg834g ver.3 router.anyone encountered such a problem?please help!!

 

finally got it to work!could anyone tell me how to do the bios update?
thanks

 

BIOS update is easy. Just download it and follow the instructions. Probably the easiest I have come across.

 

I always use Samsung's Global Download Center for updates. It lists all models and seems to be one step ahead of their other download sites.

The R20 page is here. While you are there, check if any of the drivers or software are more up-to-date than what came with your computer. In theory, Samsung's Update Plus utility should do the checking, but I guess I am too old fashioned give it my full trust.

And yes, Samsung's BIOS update is very hassle-free. It runs under Windows and first checks for compatibility, so if you have got the wrong BIOS then it won't install.

John

 

Here I Spain I've found two R20 models. The best prices in physical shop:
-R20-F0001:CPU CD T2250, 1 GB RAM, HD 120 GB: 799 Euros
-R20-000:CPU C2D T7200, 2 GB RAM, HD 160 GB: 1179 Euros

 

Interesting...

-R20-F0001:CPU CD T2250, 1 GB RAM, HD 120 GB: 799 Euros Seems to be the lowest available model of the R20.

-R20-000:CPU C2D T7200, 2 GB RAM, HD 160 GB: 1179 Euros

This spec is better than what we have to offer (although the drive is the same as the one i got)

1179 euros thats approx. £900 give or take a few quid?

 

Got my R20 this morning, and so far pretty happy with it. This is the first time I've really tried Vista (though I have played with it a little) and I'm still not convinced. It's pretty slow to boot up and shut down and like a lot of people I don't really see any compelling features over XP. I'll probably dual boot for a while, and see how Ubuntu runs. I'll also try reducing the video card memory to see if that improves matters.

Quick first impressions - the keyboard is great, the screen is glossy (which isn't so great) but very vibrant. Seeing it lined up with all the fancy notebooks (which are twice the price, of course) makes the styling look very workmanlike, but build quality appears to be very solid. Setup is simple enough, but it does ask for 25GB for the backup. Oddly, it doesn't appear to have used it, but maybe I'll work that out when I start playing with things.

Anyway... the cheapest way to get an R20 in the UK. Comet still have the cheapest web prices for the R20 that I've seen, so the first trick is to buy Comet vouchers using a Virgin credit card. They offer them at a 13% discount over the face value. The card takes about 10 days to arrive, and the vouchers themselves take another 7-10 via recorded delivery. You only need enough vouchers to cover the web price of the laptop.

Now normally you can't use vouchers to buy things online, and they won't give you the web price in-store if you just ask. However, in the case of the Core Duo version (not the C2D) but you can get around this by using the collect from store option on the web site. Use it to find a Comet branch nearby with the R20 in stock. Alternatively, you can call up your local branch ( avoiding the 0870 number on the website) and ask where the nearest one is. Reserve it at that branch using the website (it's held until the end of the next day), collect it in person and pay with your vouchers. Simple.

Using this method, I got my Core Duo R20 for £417.60. You could get the Core 2 Duo model for £522. Both bargains IMO, and I'm already more than happy with my purchase. I'll do some benchmarks later to see how it compares with the C2D ones posted earlier.

 

Merc, your R20 is as the 1179Euro but with 1 GB RAM?

 

I've also seen the T7200 + 2GB version of the R20 listed on a German website (I think there was a link near the start of this thread).

The most basic version of the R20 that I have seen listed is arguably the T2250 + 512MB + 80GB + XP Pro. I presume this is aimed at business customers.

Unless you need either a 64 bit CPU or the extra performance of the T7200, the T2250 offers much better value for money. The only time the speed advantage of the T7200 is really noticeable is when you are doing something which loads the CPU continuously for more than 10 seconds. For the rest of the time the T7200 will just use a bit more energy because of more transistors. I make that remark based on my experience with the X60plus: The extra speed of the T7200 is occasionally useful but for the rest of the time is not needed.

John

 

Samsung R20-F001
Intel Core Duo T2250 (1.73GHz)
2 x 512MB DDR2

3DMark05
XP 128MB 1153
XP 256MB 1155
Vista 128MB 1176
Vista 256MB 1187

3DMark06
XP 128MB 509
XP 256MB 512
Vista 128MB 489
Vista 256MB 517

Sandra
Vista Mem Int Buffered 3006
Vista Mem Float Buffered 2998
Vista Dhrystone 11726
Vista Whetstone 8664

XP Mem Int Buffered 2983
XP Mem Float Buffered 2980
XP Dhrystone 11735
XP Whetstone 8652

PCMark05
XP 256MB 3469
Vista 256MB 3557

CPU-Z Memory timings
Freq 333.3Mhz
FSB DRAM asynch
CAS 5
RAS to CAS 5
RAS Precharge 5
Cycle 13
Bank 18
Command rate 1T

 

I've pretty much decided that I'll be getting the R20-F001 from Comet (instead of the HP dv6231 which was my original choice).

With my brother's staff discount (10% , it makes it an even more affordable £432.

Hopefully I'll be getting it early next week (although most likely Wednesday), so I'll be sure to come back and let you all know what I think of it.

GlasWolf, since you've bought the same one I'm thinking of getting, could you do me a big favour, and take a photo (if possible) of the keyboard layout? That's one thing that's made me hesitate about buying it. Specifically the layout of the right of the keyboard (Enter key, and around the Arrow Keys).

Obviously I'll get used to it, whatever the layout is, but it would be nice to see exactly what it's like before I buy it.

Thanks!

 

No probs. For what it's worth, I love the keyboard. The only thing I'd change would be to swap the Ctrl and Fn keys at the bottom left.

 

The R20 keyboard appears to be exactly the same layout as the X60plus. Personally, I'm used to Fn being in the bottom left corner.

Perhaps the only key which annoys me sometimes is the one with the house picture on the left side of the up arrow. For me, this starts the web browser, which I sometimes accidently do when aiming for the right shift key.

Any suggestions why F7 and F8 are a slightly different colour? The X60plus has this feature but not the Q35.

As a matter of curiousity, what is the width of the R20 keyboard? I wonder if it is physically the same size as the X60plus (width = 300mm).

John

 

Thanks very much for those results. Could you also indicate the make / model of the HDD since this will have a small effect on the results. I presume that the tests were with the standard 1GB RAM? You have managed a slightly better 3DMark06 score than posted by others. Was this using the supplied ATI driver / CCC or something newer?

I have been comparing these results with those for my other Samsung notebooks. This R20 scores more highly in PCMark05 than my Q35 (T5600 + Intel GPU) = 3059 and my old X60 (T2300 + ATI X1400) = 3456. It is still behind the X60plus (T7200 + X1700) = 4555 (and I would hope so, given the price difference).

I'm still trying to understand why the memory bandwidth results are a little behind what I am seeing on my notebooks. I have a hypothesis that the 333/667MHz speed is actually slightly slower in the Sandra test than the same RAM clocked down to 266/533MHz. Both the notebooks I have to hand are running at the slower RAM speed (the X60plus's RAM got swapped for some bigger and older modules).

It would be interesting to see how similar test results for the R20 with the other CPUs. I recall giving an opinion that the T5500 would not give much of a performance boost over the T2250. Let's see the difference.

John

 

Did anyone ever reply to my request to confirm that the R20's PSU is the 60W version part number AD-6019S? This is significantly lighter than the 90W PSU (see my Q35 review for a comparison).

What is the travel weight of the R20 with PSU and power cables?

Strangely, no one seems to stock the 60W PSU as a spare and expects people who want a spare PSU to buy the 90W version, which is significantly heavier.

Thanks,

John

 

Thanks for that GlasWolf - really appreciate it.

I would have to agree with you on the Fn/Ctrl positioning - I'd much rather have the Ctrl being the corner button, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.

John, I'm sure I'll probably hit that Home key by mistake a few times too (and maybe even the right Fn key), although that shouldn't be a problem if you can decide what that button does. Are you able to change what that key does/opens?

 

At the moment I can't see how to reprogram that "home" key. Both the X60 plus and the R20 manual mark it as "Launches Internet Explorer". I found a file called "DisplayManager.ini" in the Magic Keyboard folder but the key mappings in that file don't match what actually happens (the file seems to be for the older X60) so maybe the actions for the function keys are in the program itself.

My Magic Keyboard program has the Hotkeys Setup greyed out. What is the situation with the R20 version?

John

 

Lots of questions...

The HDD is listed as a Fujitsu MHW2080BH PL ATA, and all tests were with 1GB. The shared RAM for video was 256MB unless stated otherwise.

The benchmarks returned so far have been:

Merk2k6:
3DMark06 470

Poma:
3DMark06 477

ssgg:
Sandra mem 3319 and 3324
3dmark05 1292

So my CD is ahead of the C2D in the PC and 3DMarks (due to higher CPU clockspeed?), but behind in the memory tests.

Yup, 300 x 115 at the lowest point (cursor keys). No idea about the blue keys either btw.

Mine states AD-6019 without the S, not sure if that's significant.

I'm looking for a similar piece of software but I don't see it. The Samsung program group lists Easy Display Manager, Easy Network Manager, Play AV Station, Samsung Magic Doctor, User Guide, Samsung Recovery Solution II and Samsung Update Plus.

Also for the record, the slow booting of Vista disappeared almost completely as soon as I uninstalled McAfee - MUCH happier with it now. What I'd like to do is zap the whole HD and dual boot with XP and Vista. Does anyone know if the supplied Samsung DVD is a vanilla Vista installation or a factory restore (with Office, McAfee etc)? There are no Vista drivers or utils downloadable from the web site so I'm wary of losing power management, hotkeys etc. functionality. Not too bothered about the recovery partition as I'll look after that stuff myself.

 

Just to answer my own questions, the Vista DVD is a plain install. All the drivers and software are located on the other DVD, which I'd misread as just a copy of CyberLink. So I'm now up and running with fresh installs of both XP and Vista.

The Display Manager software adds the graphical overlays for the hotkeys (i.e. "WLAN Off" appearing on the screen when you press Fn+F9) but only gives control over hotkeys for things like resolution changes and rotating the display. Looks like we're stuck with that pesky home key!

 

Thanks for your lots of answers, particularly for bringing together the other benchmark results scattered around this thread. The comparison between the results for different CPUs is interesting, mut maybe the graphics driver / ATI CCC version may be a factor in both the 3DMark and PCMark results.

Fujitsu HDDs tend to be average performers, usually with below average power consumption. Samsung seem to use Fujitsu and Hitachi HDDs.

It looks like the R20 keyboard is physically the same size as the X60 keyboard, so it may well be interchangeable. The X60 keyboard has silver paint which will wear with time so the black plastic of the R20 keyboard is more durable (and I think the black keyboard, which I have got in my Q35 - most Q35s have a silver keyboard - looks better).

Thanks for confirming the 60W PSU. I don't think the S in the part number is significant. I was given the explanation of the reason for no 60W PSUs as spare parts as being that they are more expensive. I can understand that they would be no cheaper, but I see the explanation as being a cover for the convenience of one less product in the parts inventory: The 90W PSU will work with all the Samsung notebooks, so why bother to stock other PSUs? Never mind the customers who don't want their light computer weighed down by an unnecessarily heavy PSU.

Maybe someone else can give advice on the remapping of the Samsung keyboard functions? A forum member previously produced a utility for remapping the AVstation buttons on the X60.

I can't comment yet on how the Samsung Vista DVD works. You can probably learn a lot about the contents of the Vista DVD by browsing through the contents. Look for anything dated 2007. Has anyone else reinstalled using the Samsung Vista DVD?

John

 

And for those of you who, like me, think that the R20's silver nano anti bacteria technology is just a gimmick, have a look at this 3 year old article on the BBC web site.

So it may be safer to share your R20 than sharing other computers. Personally, I'm always worried about my computer's health if I share it with other people.

John

 

Well, I've had my r20 for a week or so, so I thought i'd feedback on thoughts about it. Firsty, this is my 4th laptop and is a big step up my previous one, a toshiba satallite pro which is about 4.5 years old. The R20 is lighter, quieter and runs much much cooler. I used to have sore thighs from that toshiba it was so hot! The r20 is pretty solid too and certainyl less creaky than my toshiba. I think the screen is excellent, i actually prefer the glossy look although I realise not everyone does. So far I've had no troubles at all but have yet to get to grips with Vista, there are some irritating quirks with this OS, but that is hardly Samsung's fault.

What is their fault is the crtl and functn keys being the position they are, to my mind every laptop user has to use shortcuts to get the most out of their experience, crtl shortcuts in my mind being more commonly used - this would, in my opinion, make the ctrl key the easier to locate in the corner rather than the Function key. My other gripe (if you look back in this thread my only reservation!) is the battery. I did my first test today, as to how long the battery would last in optimum conditions. The answer is 114 minutes. This was with wireless turned off, no cd activity, in fact no activity at all! the screen was on it's lowest brightness and I did nothing beyond have a look at the battery estimates every 10 mins or so. I've seen a few posts saying that 3 hours might be likely with good power management, I would say even 2 hours is going to be lucky! In actual use (some hd activity with the odd ping from the speaker) i suspect 80-90 minutes is more realistic! Does anyone know anything about the 8 cell battery and how much it is?

So overall, I'm happy so far although a better battery would have helped. If this laptop lasts as long as my toshiba did (4.5 years) with everyday use then I'll be even happier!

regards, grib.

 

Nice one Grib! The issues you bring up are ones im am finding with my r20 as well. The FN key is annoying as if yo uquickly need to hit the CTRL key i hit the FN key instead! Im a few weeks on my r20 (2nd one) and I love it. The glossy screen is annoying in the daylight but for video playback its superb.

Battery life is generally poor on it but until i invest in an 8 cell then i carry my cables around and find a power point where I can.

 

The issue of which key should be in the bottom left corner has been the subject of much debate. Personally, I'm used to the Fn key having corner position. Unfortunately, the Fn key is hard-wired and can't be remapped using a remapping utility. It's time that the computer industry gave users an option in the BIOS to swap the Fn and Ctrl keys (+ a box of stickers to put on the keys).

I'm disappointed to see that you are struggling to reach two hours on the battery under light use. It has been suggested that the batteries need several discharge cycles before they deliver their design capacity so you may see an improvement. The challenge is to try to work out where the power is going. I would hope that under light load the computer is using less than 15W. You can use MobileMeter to monitor the power drain. You can read my Q35 review (link in signature) to read some of my research into battery drain. After much effort I can get up to 5 hours (although Samsung claim 6.5 to 7 hours). You also need to turn off things like drive indexing, which stop the HDD from sleeping.

I also hope that other R20 users will report on their battery life and power-saving tweaks. (Also indicate which CPU -this might have have some effect).

John

 

Been reading this thread for the past few days and have finally ordered an R20 from Ebuyer. Used Google Checkout to get an extra tenner off. Thanks to everyone for the help.

 

Welcome ravmania. As I'm sure you have worked out, the R20 is not perfect but is very good value for money.

John

 

I bought one of these last month.

I found the build quality to be suspect, its outer appearance was above average, but the rest of the machine was just average.

I also found the display to be below average, it had poor viewing angles and was rather grainy in appearance.

But worst of all, the battery life was terrible. 1:45, on power save- crap!

I find it amazing that everyone is recommending this laptop. It is average at best, with an above average exterior.

I returned mine and got a Q35 red instead, and I am really glad that I did. The Q35 is a quality product.

I’m saying that the R20 is just an average laptop with a sexy exterior- dont be fooled!


(however it does have good graphics performance, additionally my 1.73ghz t2250 was overclocked to 2.5 ghz using clockgen)

 

Valuable comments, but any comparison between the Q35 and the R20 should acknowledge that the red Q35 costs about 50% more than the R20 (~£850 vs £550). I stand by my opinion that the R20 presents excellent value for money at its current pricing. The Asus W3 series has better build quality with a price to match. They have been discontinued but you can pick one up here. (but don't believe the weight - it's actually 2.5kg - I had one until just over a year ago).

Battery life is one of the R20's weak links. Perhaps Samsung think (probably correctly) that most notebook users move from one power socket to another. What is atrocious, however, is the money being asked for the 8-cell battery.

It remains to be seen whether Samsung decide to provide the 8-cell battery as standard with the R20. I believe the Q35 started off life with a 3 cell battery (which was flush at the back) and then discovered that most potential purchasers wanted a better battery life. If you can afford the Q40 then you get two batteries included.

Anyway, glad to hear that you are pleased with the Q35 after the false start with the R20.

John

PS: Did you try ClockGen on the Q35? I presume it worked fine with the ATI chipset on the R20.

 

I've been looking at the prices on the comet website for the two models of the R20. Is it worth paying the extra 90 pounds for the bigger hard drive and core 2 duo processor on the F002? Or should i just stick with the cheaper model?

 

Benchmark results further up this thread suggest that the T5200 CPU has no significant speed advantage over the T2250 so, unless you want 64 bit compatibility, the T2250 gives better value for money. If you want the T2250 with the 160GB HDD then look at model NP-R20F000-SUK at DigiUK, Laptops Direct, etc.

John

 

I agree with John,the SAMSUNG R20-F002 represents the best value for money for the price range. I am not the type of person who will just go for looks, I researched laptops for about 2 weeks before deciding on the R20.

YES the power life is crap but if this is a problem get an 8 cell. Bottom line is for the money you get a C2D laptop with a kick ass graphics chip, really fast (suprisingly) with 1 gig and it looks nice too. OK it comes with VISTA but the more time you spend playing around with it and turn off all those annoying quirks it's livable.

I did actually ask Samsung if I could get hold of XP for it but they said no. No harm in Trying!!

 

Are 8-cell batteries available for the R20? If so, how much do they cost?

Ashaman - if battery life is important to you, you might want to consider the 8-cell battery and consider the cost in your decision for which model to buy (F001 or F002).

In my opinion, the better model isn't worth the extra money - although it's just personal preference and how much money you've got to spend, I suppose.

 

1. The T2250 is CD, not C2D, but the main point is that it is dual core.

2. An XP version of the R20 is listed by some retailers but not yet available.

The battery is the same as for the X1 and X11. It is listed by DigiUK but not in stock. However, the pricing of Samsung batteries is unreasonable (they have taken a leaf from Sony's book in this respect). Over £100 for the 4-cell and £140 for the 8-cell battery is unreasonable. Someone mentioned less expensive 3rd party batteries but didn't indicate where.

John

 

Wow, that's a lot for a battery - I'll be using the laptop in my house 99% of the time anyway, so I suppose I don't really need long battery life - which is just as well if the batteries cost that much.

 

Just nipped up to Comet and had a look - I went up a week ago and they didn't have it on show, but they did this time.

So I had a little shot of the touchpad, touchpad buttons, and keyboard - and it seemed great.

There was a little flex on the keyboard (compared to zero on my current one - which is working again, btw ), but that's fine.

I can see the Fn/Ctrl key positioning getting on my nerves at the start, but it's hardly something I would not buy it over.

I'm just about to reserve it on the website to collect in-store (hopefully I'll get the web price rather than the shop price, although I'm not holding my breath), and I'll hopefully be picking it up tonight.

Thanks for all the help, all!

 

Q35 and R20 are very different, in my view
Q35 is smaller, light and more expensive
R20 si similar to X11 no to Q35

 

Hi John,

I've not been able to get clockgen to work on the q35. It works perfectly on the R20 though.

Simply changing the fsb to 667 gives 2.16ghz, and it was even possible to undervolt at that speed using rmclock.

Regarding the R20 battery life, it was advertised as 3 hours, and i needed a minimum of 2.5 hours, so when I found it was 1.45 I was very disappionted.

I thought about buying the 8 cell battery, but that would have put my spend close to £700. You can buy a q35 from pcworld for only £50 more.

 

Just a quick question, can some of you guys post some links on where I can purchase an 8 cell battery online? Cheers

 

How do you use clockgen?