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    The 2012 Samsung Series 9 13.3" (NP900X3B)

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by wow400, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. wow400

    wow400 Notebook Consultant

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    Thought I'd try & separate the new from the old....

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    Samsung Series 9 13.3in: first-look review | PC Pro blog

    And from Engadget:

    Samsung unveils redesigned Series 9 laptops with 13- and 15-inch displays, starting at $1,399 -- Engadget

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  2. 1994F7PT

    1994F7PT Notebook Evangelist

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    god its leaps and bounds up in sexiness from the first one, and that was one hell of a looker anyway!!

    i'm in love with the looks, hopefully the hardware will live upto the promise :)
     
  3. John Ratsey

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    I see that two different reviewers have contrasting comments about the quality of the display.

    John
     
  4. wow400

    wow400 Notebook Consultant

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    There is a very good chance that this will become my new laptop although I may well wait for the Ivy Bridge revamp later on this year...

    I did see the differing opinions about the screen - I think we'll know more when the production machines reach reviewers after CES.

    As a constant traveller, I'm interested to see how big the PSU is as well!
     
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    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Did they receive screens from different manufacturers?
     
  6. xzybit

    xzybit Notebook Geek

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    Do you think they will refresh it with the new chipset? Q3/Q4 would be my guess, so a long wait and then next January you are looking at new products coming out.

    So since I haven't been paying attention since getting a job a few years ago, lol, what is Ivy Bridge going to do better than Sandy Bridge? Will it be all USB 3.0? That's all I really know about it, seems like Sandy Bridge i5 will work fine won't it? I'm still running a Core 2 Duo 2.33Ghz
     
  7. 1994F7PT

    1994F7PT Notebook Evangelist

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    my sandybridge core i5 (2557m) has all the power i think i'll ever need in a mobile platform. it runs everything i can throw at it in terms of browsing and multitasking within windows and it can run some of my old games fast as lightning with the built in gpu (intel HD 3000). for instance it will run LOTR the battle for middle earth 2 on full graphics and native 1366x768 resolution no problems at all :)

    so in terms of portable power i'm happy, however i love gadgets and this new samsung looks lovely. but i would be tempted to wait for the ivybridge purely as i already have the lightest ultrabook on the market currently with sandybridge in it, so i have no need for another! lol!
     
  8. wow400

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    Apparently, Ivybridge is going to bring far better graphics ability but I almost never play games, I just like the next best thing!

    So long as the screen is good, then I'll be happy...
     
  9. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    When it's Intel graphics, you can be assured that drivers suck even if the raw power is there.
    I believe the main aim of IB is to reduce power consumption for full day computing, not too much for performance.
     
  10. SoundsGood

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    I'm pretty sure they could have fit a column of keys for Home/End/PgUp/PgDown on the new 13" version (like they did on the new 15" version). I'm really sorry to see that they didn't.
     
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    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    If they did that, the keyboard may not have sufficient support considering the thinness.
     
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    Could be. I'm a big fan of dedicated Home and End keys (I use them A LOT) so it matters to me. Oh well...
     
  13. 1994F7PT

    1994F7PT Notebook Evangelist

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    the Z830 manages it just fine, to be honest its not a deal breaker for me, but i can see why it might be for business users etc, very useful keys :)
     
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    I am missing them too, coming from an ENVY14. The NP700Z5A is missing them.
     
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    I'm happy to see that they're on the new 15" version. That one's lookin' good so far. Expensive, but we'll see what happens with pricing.
     
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    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Your almost 4 year search.. may stop haha.
     
  17. SoundsGood

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    Exactly! :) Actually it stopped a LONG time ago. I realized that (A) I really didn't need a small laptop, and (B) my current laptop is actually perfect for me. It's a tad big and a tad heavy, but it covers every single thing I want a laptop to be. So my future laptop will most likely be a slightly smaller / lighter version of my current laptop.

    I probably should have changed my signature years ago! :rolleyes:
     
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    How was the color accuracy and gamut of the previous 13in model? I also take it the 11.6in model didn't get upgrade?
     
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    This is so close to my perfect machine!

    I have been waiting ages to replace my aging desktop and laptop combo. Trying to decide whether to get another combo or tablet etc but basically want one machine to do everything (work, browsing, media center etc).

    For laptop I wanted 13" with a good high resolution and matte display. Makes such a huge difference in terms of productivity when mobile. Any graininess really doesn't matter for me when working or browsing.

    For a media center I can plug it into a nice big monitor at home as it comes with both HDMI and DisplayPort.

    However, the only thing missing, for me, is graphics quality for media center. No gaming so outright speed doesn't matter but Intel graphics are not that good compared to AMD. I know Sandy Bridge has a hardware issue displaying 23.976 fps content and this won't be fixed until Ivy Bridge. Also video quality such as interlacing options aren't as good.

    So hopefully and Ivy Bridge version isn't too far off, or maybe an AMD Trinity version would be good.
     
  20. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Intel has said that IB will also provide native support for thunderbolt and USB 3.0. Lower power, better graphics (unfortunately I agree that Intel's drivers will suck - why don't they just raid Nvidia or AMD's employee roster?) thunderbolt and USB native support. Probably worth the upgrade or the wait. Ivybridge dual core CPUs are probably still 4 months away.
     
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    Intel will and can possibly let the schedule slip further. Unless AMD proves to be a huge threat, otherwise for fear of anti-competitive institutions breaking Intel up, they will tell you excuses - we need to clear inventory (like the Montevina platform) or we are having process issues.

    That's my opinion and may not be necessarily what happens in the future.
     
  22. John Ratsey

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    And I doubt if the notebook manufacturers will apply a lot of pressure to make that sooner rather than later. At the moment they are pushing Ultrabooks which use last years' technology and sales of those will help the current cashflow.

    Also, Windows 8 is promised for sometime this year. IvyBridge notebooks can be released with W7 and the offer of a free upgrade but that process obviously adds to the costs.

    John
     
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    I'm very upset by the "Ultrabook" moniker. Now I understand what people meant when they were angry about the Netbook branding back in the day.
    What Ultrabooks are, are Macbook Airs but 4-5 years later.


    I've been frustrated that all laptops out of CES, that I have seen nothing with Ivy Bridge or Thunderbolt external solutions.

    Not a single manufacturer seems interested in making a speed powered 13'' notebook. I don't care about Series 9 thinness. I do love the look. I would love a fat version with better components and battery, that kept the high build quality.
     
  24. mariusvt

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    Hopefully samsung retains the ability to upgrade the ram. That was ultimately the decider for me over the UX31, the ability to put 8gb in the original series 9(which I did about 4 days after I bought it).
     
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    History is a funny thing:
    We Hate Macs - The Macbook air is not the thinnest laptop

    There's really no such thing as an Ultrabook... it's only a new way to brand something that already exists like they did with the UMPC thing: UMPC changed to Mids changed to nothing as no-one bothered to buy.

    We really must stop comparing everything to Apple products as it's simply not true (In most cases)
     
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    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    What most people fail to realise is that because Apple tends to go for the minimalist design, anything after designed to be minimalist will tend to look similar. The problem I see is that on tech blogs and forums, many insist that because a design looks similar to Apple's, then it's copying.

    Quite a few has commented on how the S9 and Ultrabooks look to be copies of the Macbook Air. That is simply untrue. One must look at the big picture.
     
  27. Thors.Hammer

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    Then I think you must be in the wrong thread. Ivy Bridge machines are a few months off.
     
  28. SoundsGood

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    Who cares if they are "copying" the MacBook Air? The MBA is an amazing little laptop computer. I say let 'em copy it all they want! :)
     
  29. wow400

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    Some more 'reviews':

    Samsung Series 9 Notebook Knocks the Wind Out of Apple’s MacBook Air | Techland | TIME.com



    also:
    Samsung Series 9 900X3B pictures and hands-on - Pocket-lint

    and :

    Samsung Series 9 | Reviews | CNET UK
     
  30. yknyong1

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    Ultrabooks are so yesterday - Look ma, here's the Series 9 outclassing Ultrabooks at their own game!
     
  31. Thors.Hammer

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    Sure makes the Lenovo IdeaPad U300s attempt pathetic.
     
  32. Don Blubb

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    If the 13" is now quoted at ~5h battery life, is it likely that an Ivy Bridge refresh (whenever that may be) would increase that to at least 6h?
     
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    with the super thin bezel, this is essentially a 13" screen inside a 12" body? this assumption was based on:

    series 7 chronos 14" NP700Z3A: a 14" screen inside a 13" body
    series 7 chronos 15.6" NP700Z5A: a 15.6" screen inside a 14" body
     
  34. xzybit

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    I would rather have the Lenovo with this display, or the Samsung with the Lenovo keyboard, albeit backlit.

    Either way, I'm pretty sure I will be getting this as soon as it is available with 8GB ram. I just hope I can see one in-store first because I couldn't stand the first-gen Series 9 keyboard. So glad I didn't get a Series 7
     
  35. SoundsGood

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    I don't like typing on the Toshiba Z835's keyboard, but the Series 9 keyboard seemed fine. What did you not like about it?
     
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    That's what I meant by pathetic. Asking $1500 for an Ultrabook with a 1366x768 screen should be a crime. :eek:
     
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    Has anyone heard if this new model will be available with a TPM chip?
     
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    Well I firstly didn't like all the plastic and gloss, but the keys were very shallow and kept missing, maybe it would just take a few days to adjust to it I don't know. A responsive keyboard would make this computer a 96/100 for me...to get the remaining points (1 each) it would need 1080p, USB 3.0 all around, display port, 8hr battery.

    I have a $700 Series 3 12.5" and the keyboard is great. The keyboard on the new Series 9 looks to be the same size and layout, but the keys look more plasticky and shallow. The keys on the Series 3 are matte finished.

    I've still seen nothing nicer than this Series 9 though, since Lenovo can't get their **** straight
     
  39. 1994F7PT

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    not sure why that qouted review states the 13" will only have a 5 hour battery life, all other literature on the new series 9 i've seen quotes it at 8 hours
     
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    Engineering sample with smaller capacity battery cells I guess?
     
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    they need to publish dimensions already
     
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    The 2011 Series 9 had a higher spec option that came with a Core i7 chip, 8GB RAM and a 256GB SSD.

    Does anyone know if there will be a similar high-end model for the 2012 Series 9?

    Seems odd that you could get 256GB in the 2011 and only 128GB in the 2012...
     
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    Something like storage could easily be changed at the production level (provided the required parts exist). The trigger is the marketing departments who have to decide whether they can shift the product at the likely price point.

    John
     
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    Samsung Toshiba LG Ultrabook Shootout - CES 2012 Post Update - The SSD Review
     
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    CES2012: Samsung 9 series a truly slim Ultrabook
     
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    May launch date with Ivy Bridge??
     
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    They are supposed to start shipping in a couple of weeks with Sandy Bridge.
     
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    Really?

    I thought I had read somewhere that the IB versions are a mid life update & will be available in summer?
     
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    It would not surprise me to learn they will be shipping IB versions when everyone else does. They do have to compete for Ultrabook and full size dollars.

    But they are going to ship Sandy Bridge versions first.
     
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    The question is do I get one in February, or wait until May and maybe it will have Ivy Bridge and maybe it won't, maybe it will have Ivy Bridge at a refresh in Q3 July...how long should I wait until CES 2013?

    What will Ivy Bridge even do for me anyway
     
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