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    All Things Android - Apps, Phones, Tablets - Discussion

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by H.A.L. 9000, Aug 1, 2010.

  1. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Maybe you can con someone out of their S2 for that price? You're capable of it. :thumbsup:

    ps: If it's Sprint then it's CDMA, ergo not really unlocked, no?
     
  2. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    LOL yep, clean ESN would be the priority concern for Sprint/Verizon phones.

    I agree on the GSII, and if not available, the EVO 4G would be another one worth considering. The amount of software customization and accessories available for that phone is ridiculous.
     
  3. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    CDMA phones by nature are never unlocked, except the iPhone 5 because it's dual-mode.

    But yea, I'd say the Nexus S is a safe cheap bet. Maybe an Epic 4G if he wants expandable storage (heaven forbid!).
     
  4. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

    Don't even think about going that route!

    What is wrong with you? Why would you even suggest that?!
     
  5. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Why? What's wrong with it?
     
  6. ray4jc

    ray4jc Notebook Evangelist

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    I've been a smartphone user for a few months now, just out of curiosity, for those who use screen protectors, how often do you usually put on a new one? :hi2:
     
  7. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    After it's slightly scratched or when I'm feeling like replacing it :p
     
  8. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    I've never kept a phone long enough to need to replace the screen protector :eek:
     
  9. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Most Galaxy S II and Galaxy Nexus phones that are ~100-150 have broken screens or bad ESNs or both. So I figured I would go back 1 generation just to be safe. For average user who just texts and talks on the phone, I think the Galaxy S/Nexus S is more than enough..
     
  10. MidnightSun

    MidnightSun Emodicon

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    Since it wasn't a touchscreen device, my BB9700's screen protector lasted two years just fine. My Galaxy S3's screen protector is slightly scratched after 6+ months, but I probably won't replace it until after at least a year.
     
  11. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    I've never even used a screen protector on either of my touchscreen phones (Moto Droid and Galaxy Nexus) and both of them look like new.
     
  12. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    I had to suffer thru the Epic 4G for almost 2 years. I had it replaced (thru my repair plan) four times. Eventually, each one would start to lag, then constantly freeze. Finally it would make this weird high pitch screech, which I assume was it's death call, then the screen would go black and it would not turn on again. Apart from that, the phone's modem was very substandard as the phone would always have to reset the modem when I tried to make a phone call. It would randomly reboot without cause or warning. And occasionally the Epic 4G would come at me with an axe while I was sleeping. Came pretty close to taking my head off a few times, but I managed to overpower it. Damn Epic 4G was just more trouble that it was worth. I should have gotten a girlfriend if I wanted that much hassle.

    Well if you treat your smartphone better than Calvin did his binoculars. then your screen protector should last the life of the phone. :D

    [​IMG]
     
  13. ray4jc

    ray4jc Notebook Evangelist

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  14. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Google Play Music:
    Upload your entire library (up to 20,000 songs, no limit on file size or bitrate)
    Download a purchased song through a browser on any device up to twice
    Sync to all your Google Music capable devices
    Sync with your desktop with the ability to re-download your entire library from the cloud (all 20,000 songs)
    Web player interface in HTML5 or Adobe Flash
    Once you buy a song, you can share it on G+ where your friends can have 1 free listen to the entire song.
    Purchased music, once downloaded, is encoded at up to 320Kbps MP3

    iTunes:
    Can't upload any music. You use iTunes Match.
    You can only download a song once to one computer (if you purchase on your phone, it's downloaded to your phone and computer)
    You have to use iTunes Match to sync to all devices, unless you tether-sync to a PC with iTunes
    There's no desktop sync client because you can't upload anything
    There's no Web Player interface
    Purchased music, once downloaded, is encoded at 256Kbps AAC

    Google Music = vastly superior service, especially since the music is the same price as iTunes.
     
  15. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Well first off, iTunes vs Google Play Music is just another tentacle of the Apple vs Android battle. But I agree. iTunes has lost so much of it's sparkle in the past few years. It was a great concept when it first started out, but they need to overhaul their app interface and services. BTW, you can re-download a song as long as the computer you're on is authorized. I know they limit you to 5 computer re-authorizations.

    Go ANDROID!

    PS: I didn't realize how many of you were so active on XDA until I did a little searching. Day-umn!
     
  16. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    No, you can't re-download it from iTunes. You have to transfer the purchases from an iPhone or whatever you have that has that song on it. This is something that I recently ran into and it pissed me off to high-hades.
     
  17. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Say again? I just did back in Oct. Had to replace my aunt's aging desktop (with another less-aged desktop, mind you) and had to authorize the new system and redownload all her music library. It wasn't much, 6 movies and about 3GB of songs. Maybe it was because I imported her library database and it just retrieved/redownloaded all the music files to fill in the missing files? I have no idea how I did it, but I know I did.
     
  18. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    You didn't re-download them from the iTunes Store. Once you buy them you get one download to one PC. Otherwise if it's sync'd or backed up to another device, you can restore it once you've re-auth'd the new PC/Windows installation.
     
  19. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    That must be what I did then cause I have no clue on how I restored her media library. I do know I went into iTunes and hit authorize computer and made sure to export the library from her old system and import it on her new system, if that makes any sense.
     
  20. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    If only GMusic was available in Portugal... :(
     
  21. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Awaiting Google Fiber.
     
  22. Fishon

    Fishon I Will Close You

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    I just got the Ice Cream Sandwich update on my Thunderbolt and pinch and zoom is only working with Google homepage and no other web pages. I got it to work once on another web page (CNN) and now nothing again. Advanced settings > Default Zoom is set to medium. Any advice please?
     
  23. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    Backup your personal data and do a factory reset. Updating from Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich is a pretty hefty framework change and it maybe best to start from scratch to get rid of any issues inherited from the older version of Android.



    ...Nexus 4 people, your wireless half-sphere charging doohickey thing is finally available for sale. Sixty bucks:

    https://play.google.com/store/devic...iZGV2aWNlLW5leHVzXzRfd2lyZWxlc3NfY2hhcmdlciJd
     
  24. Tree_Burner

    Tree_Burner Notebook Deity

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    Ok guys, lets see if we can't get my phone working properly for the next six weeks until I can upgrade.

    The main issue is that the phone reboots half the time I try to open an app. sometimes it does it totally randomly just when the phone is sitting there.
    It also restarts itself when in CWM recovery mode. I have factory reset it, and rolled back to a version of CM10 that was stable for me a few months ago, and i stayed on it for over a month, so i don't think that it's software causing my problem, but you never know. any suggestions?

    it's a galaxy s2 from att. the i777.
     
  25. Micaiah

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    Have you reverted back to factory firmware and/or kernel?
     
  26. Tree_Burner

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    that is my next step, but i'm worried about trying it due to CWM keeps rebooting in the middle of things like factory resets and cache wipes. don't want a brick.
     
  27. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    Get it into Download Mode and see if it reboots. If it can hold steady for at least five minutes, that's sufficient time to use ODIN to restore completely back to factory.
     
  28. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    You, me, and many...many others.
     
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    Tree_Burner Notebook Deity

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    thats a good idea, thanks. thankfully I have an old dumbphone I can use as a backup if I happen to brick my phone here.
     
  30. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    [​IMG]
     
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    SO reset to bone stock, still reboots randomly. I think I'm SOL
     
  32. Micaiah

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    Let's see if we can find the exact culprit. If you have the Android SDK with adb.exe, open a command window in that directory, plug the phone to a computer and enable development mode on the phone, and run 'adb logcat' in that command line window. You'll see tons of scrolling text; keep the command line window focused and as soon as the phone mops the floor, press ctrl and c to stop the command. Copy the last twenty lines of the output and post it in a spoiler tag for us.
     
  33. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    Picked up a LG Optimus 4X HD as a backup phone and something to hold me over until the ZL is available. This is a 1.5 GHz Tegra 3 phone released exactly a year ago, dragging along with Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3, and yet it still runs more fluidly and provides substantially better user experience than a three month old HTC One X+ with a 1.7 GHz Tegra 3+ and Jelly Bean 4.1.

    Hm...
     
  35. MidnightSun

    MidnightSun Emodicon

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    I sense that the culprit may be software :)
     
  36. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    I c wat u did thar.
     
  37. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    LOL.

    HTC better figure it out real soon, starting with that new 'M7' handset, or they'll be following Nokia's footsteps pretty shortly. It's embarrassing that LG jumped in the flagship Android market segment so late and already can produce more competent products.
     
  38. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    The were supposed to be "figuring it out" with the One X/+.

    But yea, I completely agree about LG. They're producing some really nice devices ATM.
     
  39. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Now you are just using subliminal messaging to make me give you my money. :p
     
  40. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    No clue of this sublinal messaging about which you speak... confused, I am. /yoda
     
  41. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    LG were the first company to announce a dual-core handset in the Optimus 2X and the 4X HD was announced at the same time as the One X.
    So they're not what I'd call late to the party, it's just a relatively recent change that their handsets are any good.

    That said, I still find it suspicious that an LG could out-perform anything.
     
  42. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    I believe LG has learned from their mistakes with the Optimus 2X and they are moving forward in the right direction. The Vu was a pretty stale entry for 2012, but given that they have not announced a successor, I assume they've gotten the idea that a 5" 4:3 aspect ratio smartphone is not the right way to go.

    As far as your suspicion for their handsets outperforming anything, their handsets perform in line with similar devices; the 4X HD's benchmarks are practically the same as other Tegra 3 handsets, and the Optimus G performs just as good as any other Snapdragon S4 Pro handset. At the end of the day, it still has a Tegra 3 device, no amount of miracle will make it outperform a Exynos 4 Quad or Snapdragon S4 device.

    I read that LG is even going to unlock the 4X HD's bootloader with the Jelly Bean update, which is great for the support longevity of the device for the enthusiasts.
     
  43. Micaiah

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    Sony Xperia ZL coming to a swath of Canadian carriers in April

    Awesome. Still waiting to hear what Sony will do for the U.S., and if it shows up in their web store under Unlocked Phones, then it's 100% certain no U.S. carrier will be subsidizing it.
     
  44. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    About LG, they are indeed improving, but abside the N4 and the LG OG, their design is terrible. The Vu II is just awful.
     
  45. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Yes, but the Koreans love the Vu II. The Korean market is just odd anyway, though.
     
  46. BigNerd

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    Oppa Samsung Style!
     
  47. Micaiah

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    ...Wait, they made a Vu II?! Well at least it has a Krait SoC.
     
  48. Micaiah

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    The black HTC One » Unwired View

    Case design is a bit too reminiscent of the BlackBerry Z10, but it looks good and I like the forward facing stereo speakers. New Sense 5 framework looks much better, hopefully with less bloat/overhead as well.
     
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    hockeymass that one guy

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    I really like that dock. I agree the case design is a bit uninspired.
     
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    booboo12 Notebook Prophet

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    I am digging this.....a lot. I may have to consider...*gulp* going on contract for this...
     
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