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I couldn't find it so I remived any mention of Tapatalk in my sig. Well see if that helps...

... Nope. *sigh*

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HTC and Samsung both do it... it's nothing new. Seems Samsung ramps clocks up a bit higher than HTC, though.

 

Like HAL said, Samsung show less restraint than their competitors with their boost mode but it's actually easier to list the OEMs that don't cheat in benchmarks. Apple and Motorola. Period. Since Google's in charge of the software on Nexus devices, those do of course also get clean reports. The ironic part is that the MobileBench group is largely comprised of companies that cheat. Still, a company pushing the envelope by itself could easily have its efforts go unnoticed and risk having its clean benchmark scores seen in the same light as everyone else's , so having several companies join in isn't necessarily a daft idea even if those that participate have a history of cheating.



AnandTech | They're (Almost) All Dirty: The State of Cheating in Android Benchmarks

 

Samsung's been cheating the benchmarks all this time?



Shocking.

 

I just want to say that I have had my G2 for a few weeks now and I *LOVE* it. I mean I want to marry it. Intimate relations might be complicated but hell, it makes me very happy. Only thing it doesn't have is an FM radio. But I'll forgive it for that, since it is Verizon's fault and not my little G2's... who's your daddy G2? WHO'S YOUR DADDY!

 

You are starting to scare me dude. :| I liked my Nexus 4...but I did end up selling it. I also don't like VZW much, I hope once I get off VZW either to go back to T-Mobile or AT&T or another GSM carrier.

 

*sigh* It's happening... First gheys, now this.
Dammit, have to keep reminding myself, it's not 4chan...

 

Being called a technophile here on NBR doesn't count as an insult. Go on, WingNut. Run through the nearest flower covered meadow while holding your G2 proudly in the air. Doesn't matter if the CPS sees you and deems you a lunatic, they're off-duty!

 

The fact you'd even try to have intimate relations with an LG device makes me question your mental fitness.

...And that's me talking!

 

I haven't seen any evidence that Sony or Nokia cheat; they're not listed on the list either way. So it could be up to four smartphone manufacturers (plus Nexus devices) that don't, and only three (Samsung, HTC, and LG) that do. (I ignored Asus and Nvidia because I've never seen either in the wild and don't expect to anytime soon).

 

I guess no-one will be buying it from the marketplace in a year's time then: We know where it's been.

 

Fair enough. Sony was not included in Anandtech's investigation because they haven't given Anand any sample phones. It's hard to know how much effort has been put into finding out whether Sony cheats or not by others but maybe they've stayed away from such practises. There are also other big OEMs without much presence in the western markets such as Huawei and Xiaomi that could be interesting to have a look at.

 

Purported Service Manual Gives A Look At The Next Nexus Phone, Reveals 32GB Storage, 8MP OIS Camera, Photos, And More

The 2300 mAh battery seems to be official. We should see an official press on this phone in a few weeks.

 

If build quality is similar to the Nexus 4, seems good, though I wonder how the S800 does on only a 2300 mAH battery...

 

I honestly hope that's a typo. It needs to be at least a 3000mAh with an almost 5" screen and Snapdragon 800.

 

Yeah that's true, didn't even think about that. Nexus 4 had OK battery life, getting me to 50-60% after a 9 hour workshift. Why can't phones get larger rated batteries, surely the technology must exist..

 

Does it?

The Note3 has 3200 with that SoC and a much larger screen, yet it has really excellent battery life.
Does it really need that huge a battery on a device with a significantly smaller display?

 

Isn't battery life dependent on screen resolution and not on screen size?
Both Note 3 and LG pack 1080p, but Gnusmas has an AMOLED display, which should be less hungry than LG's IPS screen.

 

I love the design of the Nexus 5. I find the dimensions quite pleasing.

 

Well, that's what I'm going for. The Note II, and presumably the Note 3, have what I consider to be the target battery life every OEM should shoot for. And there's really no reason they can't. The physical battery size in the Nexus 4 is VERY VERY close to Samsung's 3100mAh Note II battery.

BUT... Exynos 4 is still what I consider the most powerful power efficient SoC.

You'd be surprised. The AMOLED will consume more power than the LCD, by several times, when using apps with a white background. (like Twitter or Facebook or the Browser...) IPS consumes more than TFT, but the LCD will just consume a steady amount of power depending on backlight intensity.

Battery life is dependent on size and technology. Larger requires more power to light the backlight, or with AMOLED it's just a LOT more pixels to light up (when needed).

 

I do wonder about that...I think the Snapdragon 800 has taken its place.




The Note 3's battery has slightly more capacity but it's offset by the larger LCD panel and the particular model GSMArena tested was the LTE variant as well, while the Note II is the 3G model. My G2 has no problems running on almost three days on a charge if I stay off the emulators and 3D games.

 

You have a point. I think Snapdragon's IPC improvements are amazing.

 

The Moto X is now selling for $24.99 to new customers on US Cellular ($99 for current customers getting an upgrade). The $99 price point makes a lot more sense than $199, and $24.99 with a two-year contract is just great for a phone with arguably the best out-of-the-box software of any Android flagship out there right now (even if its specs otherwise lag the Galaxy S4 and the LG G2).

I have no ownership nor any financial self-interest in US Cellular; I'm just a very happy customer. Their rural coverage in Oregon is second to none, and their customer service is world's better than the four major carriers. Coverage in other parts of the nation varies, so check their coverage maps for your local area before switching.

 

Surprised no one has mentioned the Galaxy J. If it comes stateside, it will be my next phone. It looks amazing.

 

Wi-Fi version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1-2014 edition is released

You all think this is a good price for the 2014 Note 10.1? I will be waiting til after Xmas to get one, so I kind of hope the price will drop a bit then (fool's hope I know).

 

Like the SHV-E300S before it, it looks to be made for one market alone. It is a nice upgrade over the regular Galaxy S4, especially if it hasn't recieved the hyperglaze treatment, but the changes aren't significant enough for a global rollout. On an unrelated note, I hope Sony will make use of WhiteMagic's new 1080p 5-inch panel. A luminosity of 840 cd/m² is nothing to snuff at.

 

You are probably right.
What does everyone think of flex phones that LG and Samsung may have in the pipeline?

 

Silly and serves no practical purpose.

Let's try this again...

The upcoming Android 4.4 KitKat and Nexus 5 appear in live photos - GSMArena.com news

 

Wish they would also made possible running applications side by side, like in Windows 8 and on some Gnusmas devices.

 

It's not exactly a stroke of genius. I'm sure there's a market for them since it's a standout feature and all but, the way I see it, the curved displays perform a disservice to devices they're being used in. Looking at a curved display must be awkward at times (videos, photos, games) and I can't see how it would add to the comfort of using such a device, especially if you're used to ending your session by sliding it into the pocket of a pair of skinny jeans or some other tight pocket. Apart from raising rear-mounted speakers above table surfaces, I can't see any benefit from having these curved designs and am left with the impression that they're gimmicky and impractical. Until flexible displays have evolved enough to allow for clever foldable designs or add a second location for notifications and the like by wrapping around edges, I see no use for them. Now, would someone be so kind as to tell LG and Samsung that the average TV setup isn't made up of a single, centered recliner placed right in front of the set for absolute immersion? The only space I would welcome more curved panels is in very wide PC monitors that set out to replace traditional Eyefinity/Surround setups. I believe NEC's CRV43 and Ostendo's CRVD are the only ones currently on the market.

Having side-by-side multitasking on Android tablets wouldn't be half bad. Though I can certainly live without Samsung's Multi Window and LG's Pop-up Play, I'm the type of multitasker that prefers switching between fullscreen windows for the most part.

 

I completely agree. The only way I think a curved display would be good is if they just wrapped the screen around the edge to show notifications.

As an aside, I really want the note 3 or Nexus 5 whenever it gets announced. I just hope the Nexus 5 will have a good camera. The one on the nexus 4 isn't that great.

 

I don't like the curved screen of my Galaxy Nexus. The Nexus 4 one was okay, not the best, but it's also a 350 dollar unlocked phone.

 

The Nexus 4 would have been a brilliant display if Android had color calibration built in to the OS. There's currently no way to calibrate a display on Android with vanilla OS.

The Galaxy Nexus had the wrong display technology. You can't have static nav buttons on an AMOLED. That's the only phone I've seen real burn-in on, and it's always the nav buttons. Other AMOLED devices can technically have burn-in, but it's pretty rare that I see it.

 

My Galaxy S Captivate had some burn in, but only at the top with all the time, and signal notifications. Other that that I thought it had a great display, but now that I picked up a RAZR it doesn't look quite as good, though back it's days it was the bees knees.

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I'm sure you guys have seen this already, but here's a little Nexus 5 vid for those who haven't. Presumed to be some what old though and obviously still a prototype handset.. If it truly is released tomorrow, I may order one.

 

That or the Note 3...decisions...



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Fun times installing CM 10.1 on my Galaxy Nexus (4.2 is way too laggy with the Android NAND issues).

 

I see HTC has managed to gimp the One Max by sticking with the Snapdragon 600; it's not slow by any means, but when you want to stick a Note 3/Xperia Z Ultra level price tag on your device, it better have Note 3/Xperia Z Ultra level hardware.

The only device on the horizon I would be interested in replacing the G2 with would be the Nexus 5 if the 32GB variant has the 3000mAh battery as rumors depicted.

 

HTC is considering leaving the Open Handset Alliance, giving up Google-supported Android to focus on Amazon's Android fork and Windows Phone (which they allegedly will be bringing to the HTC One in the near future). If true, this is one heck of a big change in strategy. Then again, if your current business strategy isn't working...

Report: Amazon and HTC team up to build smartphones, risk ire of Google | Ars Technica

 

Define these Android NAND issues?

Trading one fail for another. I feel sad for all those poor HTC employees.

 

Issue 39154 - android - Galaxy Nexus GSM Poor Write Speeds After Using Almost All Storage Capacity - Android Open Source Project - Issue Tracker - Google Project Hosting

Turns out the GAPPS zip file I was using was borked, downloaded a new one, reflashed CM10.1 pretty good. Waiting for 4.3 to come to the Sprint version the Galaxy Nexus, 4.3 is on all GNEX but the toroplus version.

 

I'm using the CM 10.2 nightlies on my droid RAZR. They work pretty well and all I use is wifi since I'm overseas. Android 4.3.1. No issues so far. I also bought a busted droid RAZR Maxx and swapped the battery, an inner frame, and backing on to my droid RAZR. Then slapped on am Otterbox defender case and a Zagg invisible shield on the screen.

Enjoying the bigger battery. Getting an average of 6-7 hours of screen time per day. Work can get pretty slow and boring

It's a nice upgrade from my Galaxy S Captivate, which is now a dedicated audio device thanks to a nice Wolfson DAC. Pandora, Spotify, I heart radio and Poweramp are pretty much the only things installed. Uninstalled everything else such as texting, phone ect.

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Yeah I've had my bad share of CM nightlys, never again. Worst part was they were actually stable for 3-4 weeks, then blew up (caused lock ups, I had no audio during phone calls, weird stuff). Eventually it borked the firmware of my phone, had to put it back to the factory 2.3 image then flash back to the factory 4.0 image.

 

AT&T...

*Face Palm*

 

Of course AT&T would...

*le sigh*

 

This surprises the two of you?!

 

Galaxy Mega on AT&T.

/facepalm

 

I still can't believe that thing.. Who's going to buy it? It's only $150 on contract I suppose, but why oh why didn't they make the screen at least 1080p? It's got whatever that dual core Qualcomm processor is in it and 1.5gb ram (is ti just me or is this a weird number?). They could've at least grabbed the guts from the S4 to slap in there and filled the extra space with battery.. I still wouldn't have bought it, but it would be closer to competing with the other 7" tablets..

 

Waiting for Gnusmas to release a DSLR, which can also make call.
Apparently they do have some DSLR on Android, but I'm not sure if you can make calls.

 

Between this and the exclusive on the Nokia 1020, I suspect AT&T is using exclusive camera centric devices as a point of differentiation.

I would. Those who know me know darn well why I would: larger screen = larger on screen keyboard.

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