All about Bezel-less and Foldable Smart Devices

Foldable Phones Aren't Ready (Yet)

 

Dr. Have you seen the intel foldable concept? It is the most interesting one out there. stylus included, three way folding, and more. Looks interesting. I know intel is not one for making anything to the market, but hopfully an OEM takes that design and runs with it. I would own one to try out for sure.

 

Yes, I think it will be the most decent design up to now.

Intel has an excellent idea for a foldable Surface Phone
https://bgr.com/2019/01/28/surface-phone-release-date-far-away-intel-has-a-foldable-phone-design/

 

Not gonna spend a dime on MSFT's sinking Devices division!They take it out of service once the user popularity is low.

 

This is NOT microsoft's sinking devices devision. This is INTEL putting out what could be built using CORE OS.

 

BTW, the surface devices devision is chugging along nicely with great products.

 

For now both MSFT and consumers are enjoying their surface line-ups. I like the surface 2 in 1 that makes it a real portable tablet.
In near future, there will be sudden disappearance of select Surface products from MS Store, Walmart,Amazon, MS Website and finally from our memory.

 

I don't think so.

 

The New Notch-Less Smartphone

 

Samsung Galaxy S10 and Galaxy Fold event in 11 minutes

 

The Huawei Mate X is an untouchable foldable

 

Huawei Mate X vs Samsung Galaxy Fold - FOLDABLE WAR is ON!!!

 

Huawei for the win, yet again. Their phones consistently are more compelling than samesong.

 

Speed Test G: Galaxy S10+ Snapdragon 855 vs Exynos 9820

 

Foldable phones at MWC 2019: just the beginning

 

The REAL Solution to the NOTCH

 

Folding Phones - I Now Believe

 

Ok, short note, had a thought a few days ago when these all came out. Nice, interesting, you've gotta be kidding on the price, then...

WTH, with these folded out phones - they aren't phones any more - they are *TABLETS*!!

And, TABLETS DON'T SELL!!

I wonder how long it's gonna take for potential purchasers to figure this out...and realize they don't want a tablet, or a bigggg phone?

I do like the new dual screen phones with multi function, and even the non-folding screen folding phones look interesting - probably would prefer a real keyboard as well to fold out one way and screen the other.

Will this be a quick end for folding screen phones? Or the beginning of a a sales boon for tablets?

 

Expectations are very difficult in 2019, many technologies are appearing and many are in the pipeline, no one can expect where the market will go for now.

 

You can immediately declare a conversion from "Phone" sized device to "Tablet" sized device results from the unfolding of a Phone into a Tablet.

Will the transformed "Tablet" be rejected as the form factor "Tablet" has already been rejected by consumers?, even though it sprouts from a "Phone" - an accepted form factor?

 

Not all new technologies are accepted from the consumers, we have to wait and see .

 

This is what folding phone cases will look like
https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/1/1...dable-phone-case-screen-protector-spigen-zagg
Spigen reveals its first models



Phone case companies are already starting to figure out what a case looks like for the coming wave of foldable phones. Spigen is one of the first to work out a design, and it’s shared mock-ups of three products it plans to release for Samsung’s Galaxy Fold.

 

Huawei Mate X vs Galaxy Fold - Which Is Best?

 

Galaxy Fold - NEW Footage Shows Crease

 

Apple iPhone Fold v2, iPhone 11 & AirPower Leaks!

 

Just a thought, it looks like folding internally - at least as it has been implemented - makes a solid "crease" in the display - to me this seems like a built-in design flaw.

And, even with "100,000" folds, at some point due to environment or hitting 100,001 folds, inevitiably it will crack and fail. At best it's got an ugly "crease" causing non-flat reflections and "blur".

Why didn't they make a circular "folder" by either folding around the "outside" curve of the phone, or move the curve inside the phone halves, "folding" the screen around a circular folding point / rod - so the screen can gently curve instead of flat fold?

Maybe next time?

 

The Most Futuristic Flexible Display Phone

 

This is Google Pixel 4 Ultra!

 

Pretty sure Google based the specs from MKBHD opinions. He already has it and he looked pretty confident. Though, I didn't like Dual Iron Man faces of Pixel Ultra.

 

The Galaxy Note 10 Secret Selfie Camera

 

will there be a viable market for this watch?

 

No one knows for sure, not all new technologies can be accepted by consumers.

 

IMHO, a full function "large flex-screen" Smartphone vs Apple Watch, that's a big upgrade if done right, and that could sell a heck of a lot more than Apple's sold of it's Watch.

Watching the video, this one has got a ways to go before I'd want it, it's getting better, but it looks like a niche product to me - no appeal for wide-spread acceptance.

The 2-way Wrist TV is a market has been waiting for decades...and is still waiting

 

I wonder if anyone will buy it and review it here?

 

Maybe you?

https://www.nubia.com/en/smartwatch.html?country=en
https://www.nubia.com/en/

You can sign up there for updates, not released for sale yet...

Here's some breakdown of feature sets / models, and regions for release - not in North America until Q4 for eSim full phone function... first release in China April 8th as the bluetooth tethered to smartphone model:

When will the Nubia Alpha be released?
https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/new-product/wearable-tech/nubia-alpha-3692849/

"...The Nubia Alpha release will be staggered depending on both the model and region. The Bluetooth-only model will launch in black in April in China, the US, and across Europe. It has now been confirmed for an 8 April Chinese launch, though the company has not confirmed an exact date for the US and Europe.

If you want an eSIM version that will let you make calls without a connected phone, you might need to wait a little longer. That version will release in China in April, but won't arrive in Europe until some time in Q3 2019, while North America gets it in Q4.

How much will the Nubia Alpha cost?
Price naturally also depends on the model you opt for. The Bluetooth-only model will set you back €449 - already a fairly steep price. If you want an eSIM that jumps up to €549 for the black version, while there's another leap to €649 for the bling model plated in 18K gold."

 

I am thinking about it, if it comes to the US soon. Seems cool but not very practical.

 

Samsung Galaxy A90 Will Be A BEAST

 

COOLEST PHONES 2019 THAT ARE ON ANOTHER LEVEL

 

Samsung Galaxy Fold hands-on: more than a concept

 

Samsung Galaxy Fold Unboxing

 

Galaxy Fold Hands-On: The Folding Phone Is Back!
MrMobile [Michael Fisher]
Published on Apr 15, 2019
There was a time when almost every phone was a folding phone, and you know what? I wish we’d never left those days behind. A folding phone is petite when you pocket it, full-sized when you flip it out – and as a bonus, it protects those important interior bits when you close it back up. The trouble is, no one’s been able to figure out how to give you the benefits of a big phone with the portability of a small one … until now. This is the Galaxy Fold from Samsung, and it’s about to flip the smartphone world inside-out.


Samsung Galaxy Fold hands-on: Bridging the gap between tablet and phone
Android Central
Published on Apr 15, 2019
Samsung's long-awaited #GalaxyFold is finally here, and it folds down from a 7.3-inch tablet to a 4.6-inch phone. It's one of the most eye-catching phones in years, and while there are tradeoffs as you'd expect from a first-generation product, we're loving what we see. More Galaxy Fold coverage @ https://www.androidcentral.com/samsun...

 

CNBC's Samsung Galaxy Fold test phone breaks after two days
CNBC Television
Published on Apr 17, 2019
CNBC's Todd Haselton joins the "Closing Bell" team with an update on his testing of the new foldable Samsung phone.
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1118595724072112129


Alan Modracek‏ @AlanModracek 2h 2 hours ago
Replying to @CNBC @robotodd
"All phones are foldable if you’re strong enough"

Yikes. Can we talk about the Samsung Galaxy Fold?
FRONT PAGE TECH
Published on Apr 17, 2019
EP. 830 - Yikes. Can we talk about the Samsung Galaxy Fold?
Galaxy Fold videos have started coming out from other YouTubers who have the phone and it... still looks like a bad idea.

 

tl;dr, Warning!, Don't remove the integral "screen protector"; Don't peel it off !!

Samsung Galaxy Fold Phones Are Breaking
Lew Later
Published on Apr 17, 2019
Some Samsung Galaxy Fold smartphones are having issues. The Galaxy Fold is likely more delicate than a typical smartphone.


re: Galaxy Folds are Breaking
Jonathan Morrison
Published on Apr 17, 2019
Broken Samsung Galaxy Folds are everywhere. My thoughts on the problems, chaos and if Samsung can bounce back from Galaxy Fold screens breaking all over the place.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/17/18...


http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-random-picture-thread.698755/page-920#post-10898202

 

Don't know if it's been covered already, but some of the reviewers who discovered display issues with the Galaxy Fold didn't remove the pre-installed screen protector. Samsung has only stated the direct purpose of the "top protective layer" is to protect against scratches, aka a regular screen protector, while insinuating the removal of it "may cause damage" (scratches?). Kudos to Samsung for daring to innovate with risky, new foldable tech. They truly are at the forefront of mobile OLED technology, but things like this can still happen. Good thing the Fold is even more of a niche product than the Note 7 and that the fault was discovered before it started shipping to consumers.

https://hexus.net/ce/news/mobile-ph...ung-galaxy-fold-hinge-screen-lack-durability/
https://9to5google.com/2019/04/17/samsung-galaxy-fold-display-statement/

 

Yup, there have been some "un-peeled" screen failures as well. The peeling seems to assure failure though, so something the retail version warns against wasn't mentioned to the reviewers - so some pulled off the plastic integral screen protector and to their horror found immediate failures along with delayed failures - which is weird to me, why would a reviewer peel off plastic from the screen or otherwise physically alter the device - maybe they get to keep them?

I know others have recommended on previous phone / tablet models to remove that integral factory screen protector layer for bright more vibrant display results, but for me I'm fine with not screwing with pulling off a heat sealed layer that might pull up a layer below it - which is what it sounds like is happening with the Samsung Fold Screen.

Especially with a new flexible / foldable screen, who in their right mind is going to start peeling off layers of that magical new screen? Sheesh!!

It's too bad Samsung got stung by this abuse of their hardware.

 

While I also think it's best to leave a factory installed screen protector installed, any plastic screen protector will eventually have to be replaced since they are more susceptible to wear than the Gorilla Glass usually found underneath. Many prefer to remove it because of slight interference with picture quality, but also better finger slide characteristics and less smudging until the oleophobic coating wears off. I think calling the removal of said film "hardware abuse" might be a bit too much, if it is indeed a peelable, user-replacable protective film similar to what's found on the S10, S10 Plus and OnePlus phones. Now, the Galaxy Fold is of course a different beast – it has a softer glass substrate that can handle being folded, so maybe it's mandatory to keep a screen protector on at all times, but damage from simply peeling the standard one off? That doesn't sound right to me and I think there's more to what we're seeing. The fact that Bohn saw the same type of damage despite not having removed the screen protector from his review sample would back up that notion.

Whatever the culprit turns out to be, I hope Samsung can deliver the phones without severe delay. The Galaxy Fold is a highly intriguing product, considering how long we've lived with flat, unfoldable slates.

 

There is no Gorilla glass underneath in this layered flexible screen.

The peelable layer in this case appears to be non-replaceable, an integral part of the layers for functional support.

That's the difference here. Just because you can pick up an edge and get it to peel doesn't mean it's an optional or replaceable layer. I do consider it as abuse to remove an integral functional layer of the flexible screen.

In the non-flexible screens I think it's also abuse as it's not easily replaceable - can you order a replacement for the integral layer in those screens after peeling it off only to find you preferred it on as originally shipped?

This "nervous habit" gives way to "picking apart" functional layered components "just because", which has no technical merit - done just because you can.

There's likely more to be revealed about this layer at some point, I'll post it here if I see it.

Update: "It's part of the display structure", "don't remove it!"

Samsung Galaxy Fold screens are already breaking
CNET
Published on Apr 18, 2019
Samsung Galaxy Fold review unit users are seeing some major issues with the foldable screen breaking. We peel back the layers of problems being reported by early users of the phone. Read more about the Galaxy Fold's screen issues here: https://cnet.co/2vdJGBH

Spoiler: Click to see more...

Samsung Galaxy Fold: Hands-on:
https://youtu.be/4I5Fr5S6NGA
Galaxy Fold unboxing: Samsung goes big:
https://youtu.be/iHR9xDW9Cgc

Bridget Carey on Twitter: https://bit.ly/2XsQSpP

#Samsung #GalaxyFold #CNET

Update: The Retail Units have a warning to not remove it.

Update: Samsung response...


The Broken Galaxy Folds: Explained!
Marques Brownlee
Published on Apr 18, 2019
PSA: Several Galaxy Folds have already broken. Here's what's happening.

Spoiler: Click to see Links for other failures - two more peelers, two unknown...

Dieter's article: https://twitter.com/backlon/status/11...
Mark Gurman: https://twitter.com/markgurman/status...
Steve Kovach: https://twitter.com/stevekovach/statu...
Joanna Stern: https://twitter.com/JoannaStern/statu...

 

Look at All These ****ed Up Galaxy Folds [Updated]
Hudson Hongo, Wednesday 3:13pm
https://gizmodo.com/look-at-all-these-****ed-up-galaxy-folds-1834118147

"Just days after Samsung gave its $2,000 foldable smartphone to reviewers, a troubling number of journalists say their Galaxy Fold units are all jacked up.

Reporters at CNBC, The Verge, and Bloomberg have all tweeted images showing seemingly distinct problems with the Galaxy Fold—although in the last case, the reviewer may have helped **** up the phone himself.

"There’s something pressing up against the screen at the hinge, right there in the crease,” wrote The Verge’s Dieter Bohn, describing a problem with the Galaxy Fold review unit he initially received. “It’s a distressing thing to discover just two days after receiving my review unit. More distressing is that the bulge eventually pressed sharply enough into the screen to break it. "

Perhaps the worst apparent issue, however, was experienced by CNBC’s Steve Kovach, who shared a video of the Galaxy Fold’s screen flickering erratically after “one day of use.” On Twitter, Kovach said he did “nothing” to the phone: “just unfolded it!"

Tech YouTuber Marques Brownlee said his Galaxy Fold’s screen died after he, too, tried to peel off the screen film. For what it’s worth, Gizmodo has not had any issues with our review unit so far. But at 2,000 bucks a piece, it’s certainly worrying to see so many problems with the phone so soon. The device is expected to ship to consumers later this month.

Update 4/18/2019 8:30 a.m. ET: In a statement to Gizmodo, Samsung pledged to “thoroughly inspect” the Galaxy Fold units returned by reviewers with screen problems to “determine the cause of the matter.” Additionally, the company identified the screen film ****ups as a separate issue, and said it would “clearly” inform customers that the film should not be removed. From Samsung:

A limited number of early Galaxy Fold samples were provided to media for review. We have received a few reports regarding the main display on the samples provided. We will thoroughly inspect these units in person to determine the cause of the matter.

Separately, a few reviewers reported having removed the top layer of the display causing damage to the screen. The main display on the Galaxy Fold features a top protective layer, which is part of the display structure designed to protect the screen from unintended scratches. Removing the protective layer or adding adhesives to the main display may cause damage. We will ensure this information is clearly delivered to our customers."

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-random-picture-thread.698755/page-920#post-10898202

 

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