Men - Dont put you phone in your front pants pocket aka (roast chestnuts)

Mobile phones are ‘cooking’ men’s sperm

http://www.independent.ie/life/heal...e-phones-are-cooking-mens-sperm-34474730.html


John.

 

For some that may be a good thing.
On the other hand, there was a story of a cop having a habit of keeping his radar gun in a lap and getting cancer. I know, different power levels, different frequencies etc. but.

 

Listen to the advise and make up your own mind, if your balls fall off don't say you were not warned.

John.

 

Probably more to do with heat and less to do with the radiation emitted.

 

Heat is a form of Radiation, My phone don't get above room temperature unless i run an app or it goes berserk, So i cannot see thermal emissions being a problem.

John.

 

My phone isn't hot in my pocket, because it's not doing anything in my pocket. What are people doing, playing games while the phone is in their pocket?

As for "radiation," phones emit non-ionizing radiation, which doesn't cause cancer regardless of dosage. http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/radiation/cell-phones-fact-sheet

 

Hmm, maybe the radiation could be harmless in terms of causing cancer, but the frequencies emitted could somehow damage sperm?

 

Never heard of "pocket pool"

John.

 

Actually it says right in the article, quote: We think this is being caused by a heating of the sperm from the phone and by electromagnetic activity.
My phone also generates very little heat when idle, how could it, if it discharges about 1-2% for every 7-8 hours, but others may be working very hard, even seemingly idle.
But even in the article they suspect electromagnetic energy, so maybe, just maybe science doesn't know everything yet?

 

Or maybe "The Independent" publishes clickbait with no scientific basis.

 

Less children in an overpopulated world doesn't bother me but I've known for years that Motorola phones and Blackberries had high radiation rankings... Meh. Less demon spawn for me I guess.

 

Eh, would rather not be pickpocketed or have a sort butt as a result of having things in my back pockets .

I'd rather trust the research done by scientists who are much smarter in the EM field than you or I over a click-bait article.

A big clue here (ignoring the article itself leaning towards heat rather than EM) is that the article doesn't publish any sort of sources for its information.

 

According to the link you provided, radio waves used in telecommunication have been found to cause localized increases in temperature, although not enough to raise the body's temperature as a whole. If sperm are more sensitive to this temperature fluctuation, then the article may have merit.

Also according to your link, there is not sufficient concurrance among studies to determine whether or not non-ionizing radiation is linked to cancer. So while it is inaccurate to state that cell phone use definitely causes cancer, it is also inaccurate to state that cell phone use definitely does not cause cancer.

 

A cursory glance of "Martha Dirnfeld + journal Reproductive BioMedicine" lists about 20 sites who have pretty much the same article .

You can check through the references and read the abstract for free
http://www.rbmojournal.com/article/S1472-6483(15)00300-4/abstract

The gyst that the news article quotes;
"Among men who reported holding their phones ≤50 cm from the groin, a non-significantly higher rate of abnormal sperm concentration was found (47.1% versus 11.1%)"

The pertinent and not quoted part in all those news articles:
"Our findings suggest that certain aspects of cell phone usage may bear adverse effects on sperm concentration. *Investigation using large-scale studies is thus needed.*"

From the article:
Professor Dirnfeld said: "I think this is a warning to men to change their habits to improve their chances of having children. Women generally don't carry their mobiles on them so maybe a mobile phone won't affect their fertility. That's not something we have looked at."

The medical journal abstract specifically states that this was based upon holding a phone within 50cm from the testes. Women may not carry phones in pockets very often but they do carry them in handbags - and unless you have shoulders like Hercules, that phones is going to be within 50cm of the ovaries. It would be interesting to see why sperm is damaged but not eggs, if this is the case. Unless the article misquoted Dirnfield, it suggests that by "hold" she means carry - it's poor wording if that's the case but the news article's quote does corroborate that interpretation.

It's interesting research but until it is peer reviewed sufficiently, I'm not going to hold my phone away from me at arm's length while carrying it.

Edit: I must ask, unless they carry their phones in their jacket breast pocket, how are these men carrying their phones during the day? I'd guess it's a minority who don't carry the phone in their pockets and even if so, few who carry it somewhere more than 50cm away from their testicles. This could mean that by sheer statistical probability, there's less chance of those men having impaired sperm - simply because there are fewer of them in the study. Wish I had access to the article, would be interesting to see it.

 

^Hmm, I'd guess a non-trivial percentage would be carrying their phones in their (messenger-/book-)bags, if they are students or professionals who use them.

 

Don't forget the ever-fashionable belt holster!

 

And will that messenger/book bag will be more than half a metre away from the testes? Unless you're wearing that bag pretty high or have gigantic shoulders so it hangs away from your torso, it's going to be fairly close in terms of distance - same issue with carrying a phone in a handbag. Most of them hang by the hips at the waist - and unless you're the male equivalent of Kim Kardashian or Nikki Minaj, it'll likely be within distance.

Belt holsters haven't been fashionable since the 90's, early 2000's at best - if they were even fashionable then.

 

Well wrap some tin foil around your nads and you can keep your phone in your front pocket.

John.

 

If a cell phone can heat up a bag to the point of harming your testes, I'd be impressed. Also worried, since it's probably about to explode as well.

 

The abstract of the medical journal article doesn't mention heat at any point, although the newspaper article does. It would be surprising if they didn't include that in the journal abstract, if it were something they had been able to evidence during their trial, since it would be significant. The abstract does however mention: "One postulated contributing factor is radio frequency electromagnetic radiation emitted from cell phones" - which probably wouldn't be prevented by carrying it in a messenger bag. I'm not inclined to take the Independent at its word when it makes a claim that doesn't appear in the article's outline - it's certainly not the first time that questionable claims are stated as fact in a news article.

But I should add that I agree - heat enough to damage testes would probably give you burn marks and show other noticeable signs. I do reckon those signs would also be noticeable when carried in pockets too, if that's the case.

 

That was my point. Did I need to include an explicit "sarcasm" tag?

 

I noted the sarcasm - I was agreeing with you!

 

Can't believe everything you read on the internet
Besides, I'm 64, don't need to worry about sperm count anymore. LOL

 

This is good news against the over population problem.

 

Radiation=MUTANTS, I think we already have enough freaks.

John.

 

Well Tinderbox, at least your sig explains your Avatar...

 

Problem is, what we really need to do, in economic terms, is get rid of the aging part of the population - but they're already on their way out in terms of fertility, anyway. Awaiting the inevitable posts along the lines of "I'm 100000000 years old and I'm just as virile as I was at 20".

 

Take safety labels off of products, let Darwin do his work

 

If only this was true...
In reality you will just end up with crapload of lawsuits...

 

Simply take those away too

 

So you too want to get yer ass sued off?