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    ALL NEW Toshiba Models up this weekend

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by nanohead, Jun 20, 2010.

  1. nanohead

    nanohead Notebook Guru

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    Wow! These guys upped their game pretty much.

    I just bought a T115D-S1125 last week, now they just introduced the T215D and the T235D (even cooler).

    They also introduced a whole new bunch of other notebooks that are all pretty interesting.

    Might be time to replace my A300 with the Radeon 3650 (its getting a bit heavy for my middle age tendencies!)

    It looks like some of the 13.3 and 14 inchers (traditional Satellite) are simply repackaged from the last round, however they have a new 13.3 that looks awesome, and finally has a real ATI adapter in it.
     
  2. d3adpix3l

    d3adpix3l Notebook Guru

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    Our store didn't display any of the new Toshibas today, I was disappoint.
     
  3. nanohead

    nanohead Notebook Guru

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    I was just perusing..... Lots of ATI graphics now. Some really nice value units with real graphics in them for us road warrior gamers.

    Also, they have several prebuilt units that look like great values in the 13.3 inch line (630 I believe)
     
  4. shaba230

    shaba230 Notebook Consultant

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    What 13.3 has ati graphics? model number please :)
     
  5. nanohead

    nanohead Notebook Guru

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    Satellite L630-ST2G01

    * Intel® Core™ i5 Processor
    * Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium
    * 4GB memory
    * 500GB hard drive
    * 512MB ATI® Mobility Radeon™ HD graphics
    * DVD SuperMulti Drive
    * 1366x768 native screen resolution
    * 802.11n wireless
    * HDMI output
    * Integrated webcam

    Intel® Core™ i5 Processor
    Part Number: PSK04U-01M019
     
  6. shaba230

    shaba230 Notebook Consultant

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    Ah, thank you!

    I was hoping this bad boy might come in under 4lbs, 4.8 lbs (with integrated graphics...closer to 5 with discrete) is too hefty for me. Appreciate you following up.

    R700 seems like the way to go. Damn integrated graphics though.
     
  7. Ahbeyvuhgehduh

    Ahbeyvuhgehduh Lost in contemplation....

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    I posted this elsewhere, but today on the US amazon.com site I saw both the 11.6 and 13.3 models up for availability - both the amd and intel cpu machines, and they were running between 500 to 700$
     
  8. thepreacha619

    thepreacha619 Notebook Evangelist

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    Looking at those new T230's.
    Can't tell if I want an Intel or AMD version.
    My friend said in general the Turions will perform better than those Pentium models but idk if it's true. I can probably just go off of the clock speed:
    a 1.5ghz AMD vs a 1.2 ghz Pentium?
     
  9. nanohead

    nanohead Notebook Guru

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    Clock speed only tells a portion of the story, and is not always an accurate barometer of performance. The more interesting thing is the graphics acceleration. After beating my head against the wall many times with Intel integrated graphics, I will now NEVER buy them again. Even the lowliest ATI integrated graphics will run and look better than the Intel stuff.

    We have a T135D and also a T115D (both AMD), and believe it or not, you can actually play games, stream HD, etc to them.

    Worse than overall performance, Intel variants are always more expensive, which is just plain silly, especially as overall performance is lower.

    But whichever you choose, once the OS is up and running, you cannot tell the difference. ;)
     
  10. ubercool

    ubercool Notebook Deity

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    Here's the actual link for the 11.6.

    Does anyone know if the Satelite T215D model TruBrite screen is matte like the R700? I prefer glossy. :rolleyes:
     
  11. uvnsdmsda

    uvnsdmsda Notebook Guru

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    I consider to buy the Libretto W100. Is there any benchmark about the processor ?
     
  12. toronado

    toronado Notebook Enthusiast

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    Don't the AMDs run hotter than the Intels?
     
  13. RunSilent23

    RunSilent23 Notebook Consultant

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    Office Depot has the T235 with the AMD setup (Neo Turion II K625/ATI 4225). I spent some time with it and I have to say I am impressed. I think it is a worthy upgrade from the T135 in two major respects: keyboard and sound.

    Everything seemed very responsive. The Windows Experience Index came in at an overall score of 4.6. While this isn't a true benchmark, it indicates that Toshiba didn't make too many compromises with the components. I noted that a similarly equipped HP dm3z (K625/4225) scored several points lower.

    The real issue here is the performance of the K625. I can't buy another AMD laptop where the fan runs like a hair dryer 24/7 (See comments about the HP dv3z and you'll know what I mean). Supposedly, AMD has improved the thermal and battery performance over the previous Neo series L625/L335. Unfortunately, there isn't a lot of review information yet but since several manufacturers are using the K625, we shouldn't have to wait long to find out. Performance wise, the K625 scored a Passmark rating of 982 which is almost identical to the Intel su7300 (981).

    If the K625 is a winner, we'll have a real choice to make. Superior graphical performance with the AMD setup or superior battery life with the Intel u5400 setup. Either way, good job Toshiba.
     
  14. ubercool

    ubercool Notebook Deity

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    So great to hear this! You are the first to provide feedback on this series! I started the DM3 thread, so that's great perspective. :)
     
  15. zeth006

    zeth006 Traveler

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    Score for ATI...and possibly AMD/ATI overall?

    The $999 R700 looks hot in my book with the 3-year warranty. Too bad the i5 version's so expensive. If I can get assurance that the hard drive is easy to upgrade later on, I'll bite.
     
  16. nanohead

    nanohead Notebook Guru

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    Don't know where these rumors come from. But I have not found that to be the case one bit. A decent amount of the heat comes from the graphics adapters. We probably have 10 laptops in my family of all different shapes, sizes and brands, both Intel and AMD, and I see ZERO correlation that AMD is hotter. What I do see is that when you tax the CPU or GPU, the heat starts pouring out of the cooling ports. But for regular work, I see no difference.

    Interesting you say that about the hair dryer. I can report also that this is the case on my Intel powered Toshiba A300, where the fan runs like a jet engine. It seems to have nothing to do with who the chipset/CPU supplier is, but rather how the Laptop manufacturer designs their heatsinks and sets their fan thresholds... As I mentioned above, I see no correlation between heat and CPU manufacturer, across many many laptops that we have and have been through.

    And I do agree with you, Toshiba did a great!! job this product cycle. We have 4 Toshiba machines currently, and their progression over the past few years is pretty remarkable.
     
  17. RunSilent23

    RunSilent23 Notebook Consultant

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    I agree for the most part but I think recent developments have changed things. With the advent of ULV/CULV processors, everyone wants better performance and at least six hours of battery life. In this arena, AMD has been behind Intel in thermal performance and battery endurance. Reviews of AMD's Congo series of Neo processors (MV-40/L335/L625) have all said the same thing irregardless of laptop manufacturer: Too hot, too little battery life.

    The new AMD Neo series found in the T235 (K335/K625) gives me hope that AMD has made major inroads. The T235 with the AMD K625/4225 seems to be a better overall performer than the Intel u5400/HD. But after my last two AMD "hair dryers", fan noise is now my number one criteria for buying a new laptop. Just ask my wife...
     
  18. fatpolomanjr

    fatpolomanjr Notebook Consultant

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    I haven't bought this thing yet, but the T215 definitely meets all of my needs: 11.6'', good sized keyboard, hdmi out for watching movies, lightweight, decent battery life, good price (compared to similar thinkpad/ideapad and sony 11-12'' notebooks). There's very little feedback/reviews for it though, I think, because it is so new.

    Anyone know if the Toshiba T215's "only handles up to 720p content" is true (as quoted from Toshiba's website)? I've read similar reviews and posts about the T115 that say it handles 1080p flawlessly because of the better-than-Atom CPU/GPU. However, I've also read that similar 11-11.6''-ers are better at handling 1080p content due to ION being a better GPU, although the atom processor is typically quite limited.

    What do you guys think, better to wait for the newer ION 2/Optimus notebooks(=< 11.6'')/netbooks with dual core atom, settle with the T215 or similar products, or wait for Toshiba to release something like a T315, with a better ATI GPU?
     
  19. RunSilent23

    RunSilent23 Notebook Consultant

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    Check out the following review on engadget.com

    Acer Aspire One 521 and 721 review -- Engadget

    These laptops are using AMD's K125 single-core Neo. If you got the K335 version of the T215, I bet you won't have any problems with 1080p.
     
  20. ronnieb

    ronnieb Representing the Canucks

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    With the newest version of VLC with hardware acceleration it should be able to handle 1080p no problem.

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/nvidia-ion-platform-review-preview/5
     
  21. fatpolomanjr

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    Thanks for the replies! That was quick.

    I hadn't noticed there actually being a review for the AO521 and 721; that is a really great point of reference for me, and answers all of my questions.
     
  22. mariodelrio

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    I've been on the edge of buying the T135D, and just now I saw the T235D...
    I don't know what to pick!
    I read some pretty negative reviews about the T135D... But... Not the T235D. (Since there practically are no reviews currently)
    What do you think would be more worth it?

    The T135D has a neo x2 dual core 1.6ghz (4gb ram), and for the same price I found the T235D with the athlon II dual core 1.3ghz (3gb ram).

    I just don't want to take the risk of getting the t135d and have it falling apart on me like some people who reviewed it. I'm guessing maybe a clean install of W7 OS and possibly patches would do the trick, plus, more people said they were happy with it.

    I just don't quite understand the major differences between the two, aside from processor, graphics (which, benchmarked, aren't too different), memory (1gb difference), and hardware.

    Could the t235d really be a major upgrade from the t135d?
     
  23. ubercool

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    It's a major upgrade. Everyone who bought one on Amazon.com is very happy with it. I'm so surprised that no one here has bought one yet. But then again, Toshiba of today isn't what it used to be, in terms of brand power. :)
     
  24. fatpolomanjr

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    Nevermind.
     
  25. Bowers Bum

    Bowers Bum Newbie

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    FWIW I bought a dual core T215 largely because Toshiba's claims that it will do 1080p, in two different places on their website ( Toshiba Satellite® T210 Laptop Computers ), including in the video there, because I wanted to use it for a video server. However, I was disappointed to find out that it will not do so. When it wouldn't play a 1080p video of mine I looked into it further. Based on the processor speed and what I found is normally required for 1080p it is not surprising that it won't do 1080p. I made a test video of a clip in 480p, 720p, and 1080p. It played the first two fine, but not the 1080p. The same 1080p clip plays flawlessly on another Windows 7 Home Premium machine, so it apparently is not the video clip. I used Windows Media Player on both machines, so it is not the player. Possibly some other player would work (vlc?) - I admittedly haven't tried that, but at this point I doubt it seriously. I'm thinking of calling Toshiba and complaining and asking them to replace it with a similar machine that will do 1080p as advertised for the T215. Other than this for me important problem, I think the T215 is a dynamite machine.