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    Help [lots of it] to install a HDD then XP in SLi1

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by thegreatsquare, May 6, 2008.

  1. thegreatsquare

    thegreatsquare Notebook Deity

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    I just received the HDD, this one:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148307


    1: How do I install it as my C: drive.

    1-b: This was in one of the reviews: "The little jumper that limits the data speed to SATA 1.5 GB was hard to remove. Managed very carefully with a tiny flathead screw driver (the kind you use for watches)." What's being referred to?

    1-c: As it stands now, my DVD drive doesn't autoplay anything due to my tweaking. I know vista won't be there, but do I neet to change the boot order in the BIOS or anything?

    2-As for installing XP, I have a new oem copy and the drivers. Will I need to get online at any time?

    =anything else?

    EXPECT MORE QUESTIONS.

    I'll print out any help when I get to work tomorrow, hopefully that will all get me on my way.

    AND THANKS IN ADVANCE!
     
  2. notyou

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    Remove your current hard drive (unless your laptop can have multiple HDDs) and plug the new one in, the hard drive should be accessible from the bottom of the laptop under one of the panels.

    I believe he's referring to the switch that determines whether the drive will be in PATA(this the right one?) or SATA mode. SATA is faster but with XP, no SATA drivers are automatically detected, this is why you must either:
    a) slipstream your chipset's SATA driver into your install using nLite.
    b) put your drivers on a floppy (unlikely since I doubt you have a floppy drive on your laptop).
    c) put the driver on a USB and have it emulate a floppy disk (also difficult to do).

    In all, it's probably just easiest to slipstream your driver into your XP install. Then once you've installed XP, switch the drive into SATA mode (assuming you didn't bother with drivers for now). If you did slipstream the driver you could have the the drive to SATA before even installing.

    Any tweaking in Vista to cause the non-auto-playing doesn't affect the BIOS since the drive on "stops" working once Vista loads your tweak. The only thing you will have to do is change the boot order in the BIOS from HDD to CD/DVD assuming it isn't like that already.

    Just to play it safe, grab either/both of your ethernet (wired) or wireless drivers and put them on a USB drive or something else (USB preferred since there's no point in wasting a CD or DVD for <50MB of drivers).

    ? You asked the question how can I answer other questions? OK, fine, 3. I win.
     
  3. y2khardtop

    y2khardtop Notebook Consultant

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    I agree with all above, simply put the new drive in, streamline SATA LAN and Wireless drivers (even chipset, etc) into an XP install, and fire everything up. There have been tons of links to all of the drivers (I have them if you need them), and you should get them all and have handy.

    btw, you should just be able to hit f12 (I think) at startup and choose the boot drive you want. If you did like I did and install the wrong HD-DVD firmware, then you'll need to find the right one to get it bootable again.
     
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    http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/XP-Laptop-Drivers/drivers.zip

    here's the drivers for a Sli1...yours should be similar. The folder marked "floppy" are the actual SATA drivers you need to streamline into your XP disc to recognize your SATA drive. If XP doesn't recognize your modem/sound card, you'll need the KB888111 hotfix to recognize the HD Audio bus.
     
  5. thegreatsquare

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    1-I know it is me and it is just a matter of samantics, but what do you mean by "slipstream"?

    2-So if I was writing a little walkthrough for myself, it should look like this.

    Prep- DL nlite from http://www.nliteos.com/download.html How will I get it up and running when I've just taken out the Drive my old OS was on and everything along with it?? Also, am I getting the 2.51, 2.34, or 2.42MB version.?

    1-Remove limiter on new HDD

    2-Open Case and remove C: Drive [hopfully the C and D drives will be marked]

    3- Replace drive & close up.

    I really need a step by step here as I'm not sure of the order of operations when it comes to what happens after I put the new HDD in.

    EDIT: To make this easier to explain to me, Where in this walkthrough below and specifically how do I slipstream the SATA drivers? What about the other drivers? [I haven't read thru it yet, I just chose one right now that looked good enough to use so that we're "all on the same page" when you're describing these things]

    I going to use this xp clean install walkthrough.

    http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sg_clean.asp

    ????
     
  6. y2khardtop

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    slipstreaming is the act of taking an XP disc, and adding or modifying features in it, thus creating a NEW XP install disc. In this case, you need to slipstream the SATA drivers in so that XP will recognize your drives. If you go ahead and slipstream some of the other drivers in, it will save time manually installing them later.

    Nlite is very simple, and walks you through the process. Try the program and see if you can get through it...if not you haven't lost anything.
     
  7. notyou

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    Make your new disc before you remove the drive... And your C and D drives are likely one hard drive, just partitioned in C and D areas.

    Why use that site when you can use the program's own guide?: http://www.nliteos.com/guides.html
     
  8. thegreatsquare

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    Ok, I sort of got a mental picture the whole thing. THANKS to Everyone!!

    This ought to be fun once I remember how to make a disc since I haven't done so since I DL'd some Zep bootlegs off of Kazaa in 2002. I'm sure having uninstalled all the CD/DVD creator software isn't going to help. I never planned to use it.

    I might need to reinstall with my recovery disc [if I can find it].

    EDIT: I DL'd InfraRecorder, that should suffice [although it couldn't auto detect my E: drive thanks to all my tweaking {I guess it wasn't so much "tweaking" as "hacking and slashing"}]. Now I go buy discs tomorrow and play around with it a bit.
     
  9. thegreatsquare

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    JUST ONE MORE QUESTION [REALLY]

    Do I have to make this boot disc with the SATA driver added because it won't work any other way or am I just making it because it is viewed as simplifying things in the long run?

    And what about this other option that was mentioned?

    "put the driver on a USB and have it emulate a floppy disk (also difficult to do)."

    I'm having trouble with burning a disc because my E: Drive isn't being recognised properly. I believe I have the ISO file in the folder and I think I got the driver added right. The folder on my desktop that I put it in is somewhere between 556-559MB in size, does that sound right?
     
  10. notyou

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    It depends on whether the drive is SATA or not? If it is, when XP tries to start installing (after loading all files) it will BSOD when it tries to access the drive. If it isn't SATA then you don't need to worry about the driver since you don't have a SATA drive.

    I just said this since it is an option, although a lengthy and bad one to use. Instead, just continue to slipstream the driver onto the CD (assuming you need one).

    Seems about right, you are making a whole new XP CD.
     
  11. thegreatsquare

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    Ok, it is good to know that it seems like I'm doing it right up to burning the disc. I have to find that damn recovery disc soon, I have two of them somwhere, but I moved and they could be anywhere in either house.