Installing XP on Preinstalled Vista

Ok, I'm having some MAJOR problems installing XP Pro on my Toshiba A200 Laptop. I sucessfully found the drivers for my SATA drive and it sucessfully reads it. I install XP on a partition i created and if starts formatting and installing, then, all of a sudden it says, please instert the Intel Storage Manager Driver into drive A. Drive A is where my floppy is and thats where i keep my SATA drivers. Any help here? I thought the only drivers I need to install XP were the SATA drivers?

 

I slipstreamed the SATA drivers into my XP Pro install disc, and haven't had any problems. I think that is the way most here have done it, since hardly anyone has a floppy.

If your Vista partition is still working, maybe try slipstreaming with Nlite. I don't know if you have a driver problem, or a problem with the floppy itself in a pre-boot environment????

 

Yes, I have tried slipstreaming the drivers using nlite. When i booted from the CD i got some error regarding I386 folder path or something. So I just decided to use the external floppy. The drivers are fine and the external floppy disk does working in pre boot, its reading my drivers. I just don't understand why after all the formatting and installing xp it decides to ask me to insert the Intel Matrix Storage manager driver. What is it anyways? Does anybody know where i can get a link for it?

 

You can download the Intel Matrix Storage Manager from Intel. If you Google your chipset it should come up.

If you're unsure of your chipset, provide the full model number. I'll look it up for you.

 

Thanks Gregory, I found and downloaded my chipset using Everest.. Chipset: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family. When slipstreaming the Intel Matrix Storage Manager, do I keep the exe or what I want to get everything down to order before I attempt installing XP. Thanks again

 

There are two different 965 chipsets. The p965 and the g965. Depending on the specific version of your laptop it could have either. (Toshiba made a few different A200's).

Depending on which one you have you can download it from here:

http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-022768.htm

There is a link for both.

I believe you will want to have the drivers extracted. However, I'm uncertain what specifically is causing your problem, since I haven't seen mention of this before.

Personally i always slipstream using nLite, and have never run into the issue. My guess is that you may have integrated the driver improperly. It's possible you were using the incorrect driver.

If you chose to try slipstreaming again, this is a good guide.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Windows-XP-On-SATA-Without-a-Floppy-F6-47807.shtml

The important factors to look into now, whether you use the floppy method or nLite, is to determine whether you have the P965 or the G965. Be sure the you use the appropriate bit driver. (If your laptop is 32-bit, be sure to use the 32-bit driver).

Also, if you opt for the nLite method, be sure to integrate as PnP mode, not textmode.

 

Thanks again Gregory, I think you solved my problem, the last time I slipstreamed i used textmode, not PnP. I will try slipstreaming using the guide you provided me, and I'll come back to with updates on whether it worked or not. Thanks again

 

glad you worked it out. On my x205, I could fully install XP without the chipset driver, and tracked it down after installing.

 

WELL! I have unsuccessfully slipstreamed the drivers i guess. I used the guide you gave me, but XP didn't read my SATA driver, I have no expierence with slipstreaming or finding/selecting specific drivers because I have no patience for it unfortunatly. So I am going to use the floppy method instead, but the chipset is too big for it also with the SATA drivers on it. Dead end, I'm going to ask a techie from work to come and help me. Hopefully this will all work out. I just want XP!

 

Check in your BIOS to see if there is a 'compatibility mode' vs 'SATA mode'. If there is put it into 'compatibility mode'. (Depending on the BIOS it may call it something different, but it would be a similar term).

If it has that than you can bypass the need for the SATA driver all together.

 

Here is a link with some person thats having the same problem with the Intel Matrix Storage Manager Driver..

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/WinXP/Q_22085487.html


I'll check my BIOS settings now.

 

Ok, I checked the BIOS for the compatibility or SATA disable thing, but I did not find anything. Can you explain how the drivers I slipstreamed are supposed to work? I tried and retried installing XP with the slipstreamed CD, but I can't get it to read the drivers.. I know i put those drivers in.

 

When you insert the SATA driver using nLite, it will load it when the installer is loading the other necessary drivers.

I'm not sure why your laptop is giving so much trouble... I've never run into a problem like you're having. Give me the last numbers of your laptops model number. The full model number should be something like, "Toshiba Satellite A200 - S1146". That will tell me which version of the 965 chipset you have. Also, are you planning to use XP 32-bit or 64-bit? I'll link to the specific download from Intel that you need.

One more thought- Go back into the BIOS. Make sure the the USB floppy drive in second in the priority list, right after CD-ROM. It's possible that Windows if forcing reading of the floppy initially, but isn't during the time you're facing the trouble.

So the priority list would be:

1. CD-ROM
2. USB (floppy)
3. HDD

 

Yeah, I'm looking at other posters around other websites and it seems that they have no problems with slipstreaming or using floppys (sigh). I'll be using XP 32Bit and my model number is Toshiba Satillite A200 PSAF3U-0TW01C (I got this from under my laptop).

Using Everest Ultimate my chipset is Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family (448 MB)..
When using the Intel chipset Identification utility it is Intel(R) GM965 Express Chipset

I'll let you find out though.. (I might mess something up.. )

I'll check my priority list now.

 

I'll trust the Intel Identification tool. .

Try this. Put it all on the floppy.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/con...01&DwnldId=16759&strOSs=&OSFullName=&lang=eng

That has everything you should need (the Intel Matrix Storage driver). It is specifically designed by Intel for your purpose, so it should be good.

 

WELL, I do have bad news (no good news). The drivers look the same (like the iastor.sys, iastor.inf, iaachi.inf etc etc) but when i press F6 they look different. I blind tried every driver that showed up (4) and none of them worked! I never realized that my laptop would have so much problems installing XP! The previous drivers I used were from the Toshiba website by the way..

 

Can you post a link to that Toshiba page? I'm having trouble located your specific notebook model on the site.

 

I can not find my specific model either. I used the Ask Iris online thing when I looked around for support. I typed "Sata driver" and it gave me results, I clicked the 2nd link that shows "Intel Matrix Storage Manager for Windows Vista/XP"

Here is the link to the page i got it from:
http://askiris.toshiba.com/ToshibaS...iceId=&dialogID=51815192&stateId=0 0 51813627

EDIT: Here is what the SATA driver I used is called (the one i got from the Toshiba site, the one that works):

82001HEM/HBM SATA AHCI Controller (Mobile ICH8M-E/M)

 

I have given up on trying to install XP! So much headaches involving getting the correct SATA driver and the Intel Matrix Storage manager driver stuff. Mission, impossible! Thank you guys for trying to help though, I really appreciate it

 

I wish you had better luck with it. I'm curious though, after slipstreaming, were you still pressing F6? Because you don't press F6 with a SATA integrated XP CD.

 

You just need to slipstream iaAHCI.inf, or the whole folder. iaAHCI.inf is what is needed.
Try looking up a nlite guide, you might be slipstreaming the drivers wrong.

And the HDD Mode should be accessible in the Advanced Menu in the BIOS. If your notebook HDD is currently in AHCI mode, there should be a setting to revert it to Compatibility Mode.

Also check in RUN > Msinfo32 > The exact model of your notebook.

http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_modSel.jsp

Which CPU ??



Hi Greg

 

To Gregory, no I did not press F6 during the setup.. I even unplugged the usb floppy..

To Andy, I dont know what to tell you about my model.. I've use Everest Ultimate and your method. This is what it shows about my computer

System Manufacturer TOSHIBA
System Model Satellite A200
System Type X86-based PC
Bio Version/Date Phoenix Technologies LTD 2.10 3/11/2008

In my BIOS, there is nothing giving me choices about HDD mode or emulating an IDE or anything of that sort. My laptop just seems totally generic. By the way I have a SATA driver that works, it reads my hard drive fine. The problem comes up after the setup formats the 10gm partition I created for XP to be installed on. After the format, it scans the drives and then it says something along the lines of "Please insert the disk labled Intel Matrix Storage Manager driver" and "Press enter when ready"

I press enter but the screen stays the same.

This is my HDD: Hitachi HTS541680J9SA00 ATA Device

 

Which CPU does your notebook have ?

 

Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.2GHz

 

Well just FYI, you have the Satellite A200-ST2043.

Now if you're installing XP Professional 32-Bit, you'll need this AHCI driver.

Now, you can either extract the contents to a floppy drive, or slipstream the drivers using nLite. One of the two methods should work.

Now, the important file is the iaAHCI.inf.

Using nLite.



Click on Insert, Multiple Driver Folder


Select the folder, where you extracted the above driver, and add that folder, then you get this screen. Click on ALL and OK.


Again Ctrl+A (Select All), OK. You only need one driver, but to be safe, add all. XP will select the appropriate driver, and install it.




Next, Create, Burn and Install the Bootable ISO.

 

I see you have "Textmode" selected in the screen where you insert drivers, in a previous post Gregory told me to select "PnP".. Which one do I selected before I make another mistake? ):

 

The text-mode drivers, are encountered when you are installing Windows. These are the ones you see being loaded during the first stage of the installation when you are booting off the CD or floppies. These text-mode drivers (referred to as such because they are used in the text-mode portion of the installation) provides Windows with the basic knowledge it needs to be able to install itself onto and using your hardware (like CD-ROMs, disk controllers, and file systems).

The PNP drivers, or "Plug and Play". These are the kind that you usually deal with, such as video drivers, Ethernet drivers, sound drivers, and so on. In reality, both text-mode and PNP drivers could be the same physical file, but the difference comes from how Windows treats and loads them.

So, you need to slipstream the AHCI driver as Text Mode.

And slipstream the whole driver folder, as the driver will need the .sys/.dll/.exe files for other functionality.

(For PNP drivers, you normally don't get an option for text-mode)

 

LOL thanks guys, I got XP to work, all I need now is to find compatible drivers for my laptop. Unfortunatly it wasn't meant to have XP so finding compatible ones will be hard. Unless vista drivers work. THANKS

 

Try getting the XP drivers from the device manufacturer's site.

 

I have one question. Will the XP drivers affect the Vista drivers on the other partition; vice versa? ATM I'm on XP, I have only the wireless driver. Im about to download VistaBootPro so i can download and surf with ease on vista (graphics are really choppy in XP) Thanks again.

 

I am sorry, I don't know much about VistaBootPro, is it a more advanced application as compared to EasyBCD ?

And the XP drivers won't affect the Vista drivers or vice versa. Both are separate OSs, and you'll have to install drivers for each OS separately.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=259759

 

Thanks, now I have my audio driver (doesn't sound as good though) and wireless driver.

In the tutorials I found, I saw that they recommended VistaBootPro for dual-booting vista and XP. I'm not sure what else its meant for, I haven't tried it yet.

 

Wow, I'm so happy right now. This will be (hopefully) my last question before I get too off topic..

Can I delete my partition with Vista on it? I found all the drivers for XP now, everything works GREAT. I want to get rid of Vista now, my XP partition is 10gb so I need more memory. I don't need vista anymore. Soo glad.

 

You'll need EasyBCD for that.

Linky

Or just run another Repair Install of XP, which will restore XP's boot-loader, then delete and resize partitions using GParted.

Also, since you have AHCI enabled in XP, have you installed the Intel Matrix Storage Manager ??

 

My laptop is officially Vista-Less! I got all the working drivers and stuff, everything is perfect! One thing.. can you point me where I could post something about my downloads being slow? My downloads on Vista were around 750kb/s now on XP im only downloading 350kb/s; I don't want to get off topic on this thread. THANKS!

 

Hey man I'm glad everything worked for you . Thanks Andy for clearing up that PnP issue.

Wow from 750kb/s to 350kb's? That's no good . Take a look through some of the threads in the 'Networking and Wireless' forum & the 'Windows OS and Software' forum. If you ultimately don't find an answer to that problem, start a new thread there.

Congratulations on your successful XP install!

 

OK, now it is my turn... I need some help.
First, I have the Toshiba Satellite A205-S5814
I'm trying to install XP Pro over Vista for a friend.
I've completely wiped the HD and it is still not recognizing any HD.
This is NOT the factory HD. He had installed the Seagate Mometus 259GB 5400rpm ST9250827AS HD.

My HD is wiped but still not recognizing any Drive. So I assume I have to find the drivers and slipstream them into a XP Pro CD? I've never slipstreamed before...
In my BIOS, there is nothing giving me choices about HDD mode or emulating an IDE or anything of that sort. My laptop just seems totally generic.

And on the Seagate website for my HD, I can't seem to find the drivers needed???
http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.j...nterfaces=SATA&product_select=current_product

Anybody?

 

The SATA drivers are downloadable from the chipset manufacturer.

Your chipset (according to Crucial): Intel GL960
Drivers ( from Intel): http://downloadcenter.intel.com/con...01&DwnldId=16759&strOSs=&OSFullName=&lang=eng

You'll find a guide on how to integrate the drivers earlier in this thread.

 

Thanks for your help Gregory!

I'll get those drivers. I have that guide. Here is what I've done so far in my research on this:

it looks like I have to do this:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Windows-XP-On-SATA-Without-a-Floppy-F6-47807.shtml

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/nLite-Download-12443.html

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=302849&page=3

No drivers?
http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.j...nterfaces=SATA&product_select=current_product

Driver download to see HD
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-025753.htm

XP Pro SP2 Download
http://www.windowsreinstall.com/winxppro/servicepacks/servicepack2

 

You should install SP3 instead of SP2. It is the most recent (and final) service pack for XP. Also, you can slipstream it into your XP install CD using nLite, if you wish.

 

If you face any problems, like a BSOD, etc after the XP installation with integrated SP3, try another time, without any SP slipstreamed.

One user faced problems when he slipstreamed SP3 and some extra driver-packs, but his install was successful when he made a nlited copy consisting of only the AHCI driver.

Hi Greg !!

 

Since I've never done this, (slipstream) I may opt for the simplest way. I've done many OS upgrades over the years though.

 

The simplest way to install SP3 is to allow Microsoft update to handle it. The first time you boot into Windows after installing, go to the update site. The only issue with this is that for a period of time you will be on the internet without it, a security risk. So if that is what you chose to do be sure to let Microsoft Update do its thing before browsing anywhere else on the net.

However, slipstreaming SP3 is very easy with nLite. I suggest reading through this guide:

http://lifehacker.com/386526/slipstream-service-pack-3-into-your-windows-xp-installation-cd

(Hey Andy! )

 

Than you for the wonderful help.
Also, thank you Andy, your always helpful everywhere here too.

 

Well, three times today I tried to get nLite slipstreaming to work and right at the end it failed. That is a total of about 3 hours of lost work! What the heck is going wrong? Any idea?

This was when it was almost finished.


and this was the error that I got when I tried to do the bootable ISO:

 

I've never seen that error message while working in nLite before...

I noticed that earlier you linked to downloading from a softpedia site. Try reinstalling nLite downloading the executable from here:

http://www.nliteos.com/download.html

If you still have an issue than you could try one of the earlier releases on that site.

Also limiting the amount of programs running while nLite is working might help.

It might be worth a look through the nLite forums to see if this is an issue others have had:

http://www.msfn.org/board/nLite-f89.html

 

Ok... I will try what you suggested.
The second time I tried using it... I made sure nothing else was running, so that wasn't it.
I notice there were a lot of drivers loading. It took one hour 34 minutes to do.
Maybe I should just do the chipset drivers only to recognize the HD and that's it?

Here is the screenshot of what was being put on nLite:
WXPOEM_EN (E) - IATA85ENU - infinst_autol - WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU - win2k_xp14363

 

Why are you trying to put all those executables in there?

Try just slipstreaming this (Service pack 3):

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&displaylang=en

And insert the F6 drivers I linked to earlier from Intel as a textmode driver. Tell nLite to look for the drivers in the folder "C:\Downloads\f6flpy32_85". (That is the path where I have it. For you it will be wherever you extracted the f6flpy32_85.zip file to.)

 

I can try that... but isn't the F6 drivers for a floppy? I don't have a floppy on this notebook?

All I want to do at this point is maybe slipstream SP3, then only the drivers to make the HD work... which appears to be the:
Mobile Intel® GL960 Express Chipset
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-025753.htm
The question is... do I need to slipstream these from there:
Graphics Driver Intel - Chipset Software Installation Utility Intel - Matrix Storage Manager1

 

The F6 drivers are designed for a floppy, yes. But by integrating them into the XP CD with nLite, you do not need a floppy. nLite is designed to work with those files. The new CD will automatically load those drivers during the Windows installation. The executables you were trying with will not work.

To answer your question, no, you should only need to integrate the appropriate files within the f6flpy32_85.zip file.