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    Laptop Battery?

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by Chickenwing168, Dec 2, 2006.

  1. Chickenwing168

    Chickenwing168 Newbie

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    Hi, I am new to the forum, I just bought a U200 Toshiba yesterday as my first laptop.

    I was wondering what kind of maintenance I should do to it? I am a new laptop user and therefore am not familiar with laptop caring.

    The seller told me to charged the battery for 24 hrs before using it, but the manual said to not charged a fully charged battery, which advice should I follow?...(I left my laptop charged for a entire night and my battery bar is full)...Should I continue to charged it despise the fact is already full?

    thank you :)
     
  2. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    If you are running on AC power, you can just leave it plugged in and use the notebook. The notebook should stop charging the battery when it's fully charged, so you shouldn't have to worry about overcharging like in older batteries.
     
  3. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    No, don't leave it on charge. The new Lithium Ion batteries are smart, and they don't need to be charged for an eternity before they can be used. Follow the advice of the manual on any battery concerns. People in the shops often don't actually know much about the technology they sell. Hope this helps.
     
  4. Chickenwing168

    Chickenwing168 Newbie

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    Oh really?..thx for the advice!!! I dont want my battery to shorten its life span already, so I think ill unplug it and power it with AC instead... :)

    thx a bunch!!
     
  5. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    Do some research on Li-Ion batteries online if you're really concerned with battery life. The elements are going to degrade over time no matter what you do. Some people slow down the degradation by leaving it their refrigerator at 40% charge.

    I personally like having the battery there as a backup instead of getting an APC Backup should there be a power outage. Your battery will not die because you used it how most people do--in the notebook while on AC power.

    To put things into perspective, I have an old notebook with 2 batteries. They both still last about 75% as long as they did originally after over 7 years. Granted I haven't used them much in 5 years, but I did try that out earlier this year.
     
  6. mcunha71

    mcunha71 Notebook Geek

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    Hi,

    I must disagree with that.
    If there isn't any problem leave the computer plugged all the time, why Toshiba put this information on M115’s manual, page 49:

    Page 122:
    So, I’m not sure if actual computers are that smart to stop the charge process when battery are fully charged.
    Anyway, for precaution, if I plain to use my notebook much time plugged, I remove the battery. Specially because when this happens I always leave it plugged after shut down.

    Regards.
     
  7. Maatt500

    Maatt500 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, you can leave the AC power in with the new batteries, and not worry about them over charging! - Wow,thats pretty smart! - Mind you, if you have a laptop, you wouldnt really want it in all the time... become wireless and portable! lol
     
  8. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    I must admit that when I first heard about the the manual recommending removal of the battery so often, I was a bit surprised. Just about any current electronic device with a Li-Ion battery uses a trickle-charge system that tops off the battery from time to time--but it does stop charging when the battery is fully charged. Even the $130 Nintendo DS is smart enough to do that. I find it rather hard to believe that they would give you any less with your M115.

    Of course, they could be referring to extending the lifespan of the battery by removing it. You can read more about it in my battery guide.
     
  9. mcunha71

    mcunha71 Notebook Geek

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    First charge always take more time (and should let charging for more time) than subsequent charges. That's why they recommend a 12 hours charge for new batteries.
    Think like a "physiotherapy", since the new battery is "sleeping" for much time :)


    Hi chrisyano,

    I remove the battery only at the office, because some times I let my notebook on my desk for 2 or 3 days. When this happens I always forget to unplug the A/C :D
    Keep install and removing batteries is a pain in the ***! There is no sense in do that in other circumstance.

    Regards.