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    New Nvidia Qosmios on Amazon

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by Mklv, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. Mklv

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    They are still brand new, so they will probably get discounts at some point. Also, there was another thread where ad 1300 dollar model was mentioned.
     
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    Honestly, at those price ranges, I have to say that the G73JW is a much better deal. Toshiba, in my opinion, got away with charging upwards of 2 grand because the Qosmio was the first of this generation of lappies to release way back in the latter part of 2009, so they had some name recognition even after the G73JH and several other mid-priced lappies launched. But, to be quite honest, I am just not certain that the new Qosmios can go toe-to-toe with the new G73JW's.

    If I have a choice between the highest end Qosmio for 2K and the highest end G73JH, I don't think the Qosmio would stand a chance.
     
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    I agree that the value of the Qosmios is in the low-end. The higher end models aren't worth it compared to the G73JW. But for ~$1200 (retail, street price will be lower), nothing comes close to the base Qosmio.

    Just depends on how much you want to spend.
     
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    That also depends. Because I guarantee that Best Buy is going to launch G73JW's that compete with the low end Qosmios as well.

    Right now, about the only things that the Qosmios have going for them (in my eyes) at the low end are the 18.4 inch screens, same basic architecture as the high end models, the sound system, and the sleek look. I think the X500 Qosmio line is the prettiest laptop on the planet right now, hands down.

    I just think that Toshiba may not be up to the task of competing with Asus for the medium or even low end gaming market, not with the Best Buy RBBX05 versions of the JW model that are surely coming.
     
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    What in your opinion will the JW-RBBX05 have that the Qosmio X505-Q892 won't have? Your opinion was valid when we were comparing the Q885 to the G73JH, but now the Qosmios and G73JW share the same GPU. I can't see a big selling point the G73 RBBX05 will have over the Qosmio, other than more RAM and maybe USB3.0, both fairly minor points. And the RBBX05 won't have Asus's warrenties, so you're stuck with Best Buy servicing. BTW, the Best Buy G73 has a pretty bad screen, very lousy viewing angles.
     
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    Well since the Qosmio has crappy 1080p screens, for me that makes them both six-of-one. As for what the RBBX05 will have aside from USB 3.0 and more RAM, how about a better processor, for starters? The low end Qosmios have i5's, which I assume will stay the same for around $1,300.00? And the Best Buy G73's ALL always had the i7's for a lower price, although the 885 came down after the X500 line had been out for a YEAR. They also had Blu-ray as well as all coming standard with 1080p. My point is that if you can get a G73JW, even a Best Buy model for less than the lower end Qosmio, you would have to be a fool not to consider it.

    If the low end new Qosmios have i7 Q740 processors, then that is a whole different balllgame.
     
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    Asus quality is nowhere near Toshiba though, I think it worth the price premium.
     
  9. ChiroVette

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    I am no expert, but isn't it the other way around? Doesn't Asus have the overall better quality reputation as far as serious equipment and lappies goes? I know the G73 had its share of issues, but it certainly seems as if they were resolved, and even if not, surely the new gen of that lappy will have fixed anything lingering. lol If not, then your statement is the understatement of the year, Ingvarr.
     
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    Who told you the Best Buy G73 has Bluray? That's not true at all. And the i7 vs i5 argument doesn't move me at all, I've used both, and you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference unless you were encoding video.

    For me, a combination of better speakers, screen, design, and warranty (1 year standard, 2 year from Costco) win out over the Asus. Plus, there's the fact you have to deal with Best Buy support.

    And the G73 keyboard problem still hasn't been resolved.
     
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    Well the keyboard issues are a wash because both lappys have their own problems with the keys. The i7 processors may not be anything significant to worry about now, but again, a year from now? I think games will soon require quad core.
     
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    I'm not going to argue i5 vs i7 anymore here, not when there's another topic in the forum for that.

    One more thing to think about though: The Best Buy G73JW will probably retail for $1300, and probably won't go lower. Add tax, and it goes up as high as ~$1430 in some places. I can get the G73JW with free shipping from Gentech for $1695, $1620 if I downgrade from Bluray. Is the $190 difference really worth it, in light of how much you are losing by getting the RBBX05? I really think not. The difference is even smaller if you're looking at the G73JH.

    The Qosmio will almost certainly drop in price (J&R is already discounting the Q898) and alot of online stores will sell it tax-free. That's no small cost, especially in states like CA and NY.
     
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    I see your point about going for the "real" JW over the regular $1,695.00 model, but that isn't the point. I was saying that the "budget" JW looks like a better buy than the "budget" Qosmio is all. Oh and Best Buy runs specials all the time, so I doubt the RBBX05 will stay static at $1,300.00, if that is even its starting price.

    Unfortunately that so called discount from J&R is not really much of a discount.