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    New driver v167.26 ...

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by nboi, Oct 22, 2007.

  1. nboi

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    i think in general, overclocking does not work with 16*.** drivers.
     
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    and can you overclock shader in riva tuner ?
     
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    Confirmed!

    167.26 Drivers + laptopvideo2go INF + Rivatuner 2.05 allow full overclocking including shader.

    Overclock does not reset on OK/Apply!

    ***rubs hands together with an evil grin***
     
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    i read these were based on older drivers though and just numbered differently... is that not true?
     
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    It could be... but shader OC works... to my knowledge that only works on 163.xx drivers.

    If Bioshock works, then it may be that these are a hybrid of some sort.

    I can't test Bioshock until I get home from work... can someone give it a shot?
     
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    be77solo pc's and planes

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    Could anybody try the Toshiba HD DVD player? Curious if that would start up with them, as the 163.75's I'm running won't work with it... thinking about trying these out, see how the SLI works with them overclocked... very curious

    X205-SLi1
     
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    Just got 6161 in 3dmark06 WOW (toshiba x200-15k, t7700 &8700m GT)... Mine card clock is : core/shader/memory ; 770/1840/970 .... hehe tnx 167.26 driver... If someone could figure it out how to overclock cpu i think we could get 8000 score :)
     

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    did you try running any games with those clocks? curious if they'd run, isn't that really high on the shader clock? maybe I'm just not familiar with the 8700's
     
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    ok, just wanted to follow up... tried these drivers versus the 163.75 drivers i was using, and thought it worthy a follow up... so, here goes

    3dMark06
    1280X854 res

    6611 stock speed 163.75 drivers
    7055 stock speed 167.26 drivers
    7864 625/1250/850 167.26 drivers
    7981 650/1300/925 167.26 drivers

    So, that's a X205-SLi1 running in SLI mode with said drivers, for what it's worth... do gotta say, was very surprised with the difference in 163.75 vs. 167.26 stock speed drivers
     
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    Ok, wanted to update further, just played around in Flight Simulator X and it ran flawlessly, using these drivers and the overclocking of 650/1300/925, best performance yet with this laptop, Frames per second exceeding 100+ at times in the default area, very impressed so far.... Don't know what else I can get out of the 8600mGT's OC wise, but so far so good! Was initially not expecting any gain from these drivers, but, atleast so far, am totally impressed!

    X205-SLi1, which uses dual 8600M GT w/ 512 VRAM
     
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    ok, just as a different test, didn't notice any definate improvement of Bioshock Demo, but it did run fine with these drivers... not sure what that means, but, honestly using FRAPS it did appear to run a bit slower than the 163.75 drivers even at stock speeds.... but, that's not a definate result, just playin this verse what I remember the other drivers showing... anybody have any ideas why? It DID run fine, just not doesn't seem quite as fast, but still playable
     
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    and i guess that's enough until somebody else had an idea... ha
     
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    Confirmed!

    These drivers run Bioshock AND overclock!


    That in and of itself is an excellent arguement over "being a rehash of an older driver".

    If they are based on the older 165.xx drivers, then they have features of the 163.xx drivers as well.

    167.27 is indeed turning to to be the best performing driver.

    I will test HD-DVD as well tonight just to make sure.
     
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    Those are some nice numbers be77 close to the stock 8700sli in the xps1730 and even better cause your native res is 1440x900 :) getting more tempting now that ive seen the cards can OC so nicely the bioshock thing is kinda weird though are you sure your actually running the game in sli ? it should be smooth as a babys bottom or close to it at native res with both those cards.
     
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    HD-DVD fails and I get bluescreens when I close the lid, so they aren't perfect.
     
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    yeah, i haven't tried hd-dvd, but i assume it'll fail... think it's just a flawed program, as reguardless of using the stock driver, you still have to disable SLI, and to me that seems wrong when I paid for a SLI system from Toshiba... just need to find a decent alternative HDDVD player

    As for closing the lid and returning, haven't tried that yet, but that is annoying... my last laptop did that, a Sager with the ATI 9600 and updated drivers... got annoying after a few times! Still not sure of the best drivers, but, so far these have done ok on my system
     
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    as a bit more follow up with the Bioshock demo... I am running it SLI, as I enabled the indicators and have the green bar on the screen... also, demo is totally playable at 1440x900 with everything except force global lighting maxed out(haven't tried that enable, so it might not effect anything, just haven't tried as it comes disabled), so that's good... and, kinda odd, but the max frames per second seem to have impoved with these drivers and overclocking, but still not sure the average and definately not the low did, as it varies from 15 to 45+... so, maybe some CPU limitation, or, I'm thinking maybe directX10 issues, as it seems to only really slow down any when there's a lot of water with reflections or smoke on screen... haven't tried direct X 9 to compare, as I'm about to head to bed so I can get up for work, but, Bioshock does run with these drivers, for what that's worth
     
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    forced global lighting btw will improve your fps so you may want to give that a shot when you have time and the visual difference is pretty minimal . also you may want to disable vsync if thats enabled.
     
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    disabled vsync a few times, and it does improve the higher FPS, but i do get some occasional tearing, but, for testing purposes does appear to allow higher FPS. I will have to try the forced global lighting, as I assumed it would hurt FPS, so never messed with it.... everything else though is maxed.... do still need to try the direct X 9 version though, as that may yield different results.... so far have only tried the direct X 10 version
     
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    Do run it with vsync disabled for testing, it does allow higher FPS, but I do get some tearing, so wouldn't want to keep it that way for actual gameplay I don't guess. I assumed force global lighting would hurt so haven't bothered enabling it, but will have to try it thanks! Only other thing I can really figure is trying it in directX 9 to see how it runs, haven't tried that yet, only used the direct X 10 version. Overall though haven't had any crashes yet with these drivers, and do like that I can enable overclocking, so might keep these, dunno?

    ---Sorry for the double post, didn't see that it went to page 3 and thought it didn't post the previous one, so i retyped it... my bad!
     
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    m8 you are cheating... Benchmark it using 1280x1024, i shown mine result using that default res for 3dmark06... if not i will bench this evening using this 1280x854 and will see how really is your sli faster then native 8700... Mine guess is not more then 10%.... BTW. I tried playing bioshosk, lost planet, ut3 demo, and they worked flawlessly.
     
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    not cheating there M8, I clearly stated which res I was running, as it's all I can run with the free version of 3DMark06! Don't have an external monitor to plug up, so it's all I can run... besides, don't matter to me how my score compares to yours, I just wanted to see how on my system the different drivers compared and then how a little OC would affect it... and I got my results, and simply wanted to share.... that's how this works
     
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    I have free ver. of 3dmark06 and it lets me use 1280x1024 and i not using external monitor...
     
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    which system you got? the one with the higher res screen? I'm thinking that since I've got the 1440x900 screen, it won't enable it by default.... but, if ya can tell me how to change it i'd be more than happy to try it... I was told if i hooked up an external monitor that could display 1280x1024, it would default to that, but, don't have one.... as it is now, when i start 3dmark06, it just defaults to 1280x854, and, only option I have is to run benchmark, can't change anything
     
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    Yep got hi res 1680x1080 ... Anyway here are mine bench of 3dmark06 using 1280x854 res ... 6677
     

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    Yeah wow! I can't wait to do some testing with my two 8700m GT SLI. Do you use "use at windows startup" in your Riva Tuner, nboi?
     
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    Yep, it works without a hasle.
     
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    ok, was messin' around with 3Dmark06 some more, really need to get back to work, ha, but, bumped the clocks up a tad 655/1310/950, and ran the tests again... still can't get 1280x1024 (Goes from 1280x854 to 1360x768) to even be an option, but with 1280x854 got 8024 marks, using these drivers. Not sure how much more room there is to go up with the 8600M GT's, anybody play around with overclocking them before? Gotta say though, pretty impressed and pleased, for what that's worth ;)

    [​IMG]
     
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    Oooh nice! So having "use at windows startup" doesn't mean that the GPU and incidentally the CPU are running at their max all the time, right? Only when its needed?
     
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    That is VERY nice to hear for me! :p And your using the v167.26 driver for that benchmark, right?
     
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    yeah, running the 167.26's mentioned here. Them alone even without overclocking gave a good boost in points, and with overclocking, well, ya see the results. You should be doing even better with the 8700's; look at Nboi's clocks running a whole lot faster than I'm running the 8600's... I might can get some more out of them, but don't know.

    I would be interested though if you'd run some stock speed test though, curious how SLI 8600 compare to SLI 8700's, even though I wish I had you're CPU, you gotta be smokin' with that thing
     
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    hey be77 run your 3dmark at 1360x768 thats going to be almost exactly like running it at 1280x1024 and see what you come up with .
     
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    Havn't recieved my XPS yet, but when I do, don't worry I'll be doing a lot of benchmarks. I'm thinking about OC'ing the X7900 to 3,4Ghz, and do some OC on the GPU's aswell. But I'll be doing it very carefully, cause don't wanna overheat it, even though I have full Dell Accidental Coverage on the beast ;)
     
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    I'm just curious, if ya don't mind me asking, what do the XPS's with the dual 8700's and Extreme Duo's go for $ wise? Cause that has got to be a freakin' beast! HA, enjoy your new laptop!

    XPS - I'll do that a bit later, see what i get...
     
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    Well I got a bargain. Actually I pretty much stole it :p ½ the price because I know a guy who works there. If I had to pay full price, I would never have concidered it! But I thought: Hey, I'll never get a deal like this ever, so I saved up, and voila!
     
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    Great deal dude!!!, I did not get an XPS or one of it's brothers from Alienware because I could not justify paying $4200 (the way I wanted it configured) for either one, so I settled for the X205-9349.
     
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    Yeah, that's a smokin deal, I don't blame ya one bit.... enjoy it!

    Hey XPS, just ran it at 1360x768, and got 8136 for what it's worth, but that can't be a good comparison to 1280x1024.... but, there ya have it
     
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    Ya ideally 1440x900 is only alittle bit different then 1280x1024 cant remember the page it shows pixel counts for different resolutions. well i guess you could just pick a random game or the world in conflict benchmark to use it in comparison to a single 8700 which would probably be a better way of really showing how much better 2 cards run a game then a single . good stuff though man keep it up :)
     
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    I don't blame you! I really like Toshiba Satellites design, and also think that they are great quality!
     
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    1024x768 = 786,432
    1280x854 = 1,093,120
    1440x900 = 1,296,000
    1280x1024 = 1,310,720
    1680x1050 = 1,764,000
    1600x1200 = 1,920,000
    1920x1200 = 2,304,000
     
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    thanks Kernal
     
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    Note the new sig...

    5445 3dmark06 at 1280x1024 at 776core/1552shader/938x2 mem
    EXACTLY where I said it would be after 163.xx and overclock.

    I am quite confident the 167.26 drivers are built on the new series...
     
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    Where do you download the new driver?
     
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    laptopvideo2go.com
     
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    I also have a Toshiba x200-20s (UK version of x205) but cannot get the drivers to work. if i install them as they are the laptop upon restarting enters into blue screen and does not work. When i edit one of the lines, specifically i remove the ";" on line ";HKR,, ModesetBlankDelay, %REG_DWORD%, 1", the laptop starts i did the overclocking and everything slows down to a crawl. On UT3 i get 35 to 40 fps with 163.71 new drivers less than 10fps! and that is universal to all the games i have. can anyone help is it an installation problem or something else? any help would be greatly appreciated. (P.S.i used riva 2.05 to do overclocking). As a final note after performance went down i restarted the laptop and lo and behold blue screen again! :confused: :mad:
     
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    Alogo, the driver needs to be installed as the directions on laptopvideo2go.com indicate.

    Did you use the modded inf? (copy over the extracted nvidia one)
    Did you install using the setup.exe?
    Did you use the international (not english) version or the one obtained from their site?
     
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    blue screen on mine too. reverted bk to 163.
     
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    Very strange... they installed easily and have a limited number of flaws for me...
    -No power mizer
    -Bluescreen on wakeup (close lid, open lid)
    -Toshiba HD-DVD does not work.

    They are by far the best performance for me overall.(Bioshock is noteably better even without the OC)
     
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