PM965 or GM965 in Your X205 / X200 - Possible onboard graphics conflict

Can I ask everyone to report their precise Intel chipset here, along with their personal performance satisfaction?

It seems there are 2 groups of X205 owners right now... those who are stoked with it... and those who are definitely not!??!!

My beast has the GM965, with integrated graphics onboard, and i am definitley belonging to the second group!!

In Vista's 'System Information' tool, i'm showing my 8700M and Intel's Integrated graphics SHARING IRQ channel 16!

Is this a possible problem / performance slow down.

Surely the Intel graphics is disabled right??? Is it?

To add a spanner to the works, SandraLite does not see my 8700M... Is this just a coincidence?

The plot thickens... please report guys...

 

hmm... that's very strange to have GM965.

The official toshiba specs says it comes with a PM965

http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/satellite_X205-S9359.pdf

 

I'm in Australia (mate).

We (obviously) do things differently down under!

 

Are there any x3100 drivers installed on your system? Also, do the integrated graphics show up in your device manager?

 

Here's what i've got...



Note how i have a USB controller on IRQ16 as well...

Do i really want that?

 

Odin,

I don't know about x3100... no sign of them in 'Programs and Software' tool.

No integrated graphics in 'Device Manager' either.

Why do I still not feel safe.

If i do have an IRQ problem, would it explain my lack of ingame performance when setting details to high, but getting ok performance with low detail (even with AA AF and res maxed).

I am seriously suspecting something is up here... Some x205 owners are reporting that they can play bio with everything maxed... i have to bring detail down to medium, and i still get FPS in the teens when fragging.

 

Download the free version of Everest, and report back on what it says about your GPU.

Edit:
Note how in your screenshot it says PM965/GM965 ... I.E. it doesn't know if you have integrated graphics or not. It should say that same thing for every 965 chipset. Was there anything else making you think you have the GM965? Try downloading CPU-Z and seeing what chipset it detects.

 

Standby one...

 

Hmm where do you find out that your AU x200 / x205 has the GM965 chipset?
GM965 comes with integrated graphics and media accelerator, while PM965 does not.

If it is GM965, here's the bonuses

You can turn the dedicated graphics (i.e. 8700M GT for X200/205) on and off,
just like you can with the new Sony VAIO SZ, Asus U3 models etc....

This means if you want to save on power and don't need 3D performance, you can simply flip to integrated graphics and have a lower power cooler running notebook.

 

There's nothing out of the ordinary i could see.

8700M detected everywhere it should have been.

No sign of integrated graphics chip.

 

I have one of the Sony Vaio's with the graphics switch and it is a cool feature, that I do not have on my X205-9349 - but I am mainly using the X205 for gaming.

 

Try cpu-z. It's a very small and easy little program that gives useful diags / info.

 

Could you still post your Everest output? It might give some additional insight into the poor performance of your card.

 

Output is pretty extensive.

What exactly do you want.

Thx again for your help!

 

The GPU section shouldn't be too long. That would give the best info to help diagnose your problem.

 

Funnily enough, the GPU page is EMPTY!

8700M is detected here though...

 

Anyone can comment on the possible IRQ conflict/optimization?

 

All X205s run on the PM965 platform. They do not have "built-in" integrated graphics and only run on a dedicated graphics chip. You take out the video card your laptop wont boot.

The Vaio series is the only lineup of laptops (that I know of) that have a combo of integrated graphics along with a dedicted graphics chip. It's pretty nice since it saves a great deal of bettery life.

 

Could you post the GPU section of the report?

 

For Jess...

Sorry dude...you wrong!

For Odin...

Told you dude, its blank!

 

Odin,
Everest did tell me that it does not support my southbridge atm, if that helps...

 

I meant to click the "Report" button up in the upper right corner. When it's done there should be a GPU section. Is that blank as well? If not, could you post it? Regarding your chipset, what does CPU-Z say you have? I'm inclined to agree with jessi that all the X205 run on the PM965 chipset unless you have evidence to the contrary.

 

So you don't trust intel's own chip id program! OK...


Here's the report..

 

Hmm, that's a problem. Can any other x200/x205 owners post their chipset?

Also, could you scroll down to the section of the report that starts with:
--------[ GPU ---------------------
and post back on what it says?

 

There is no such section in my report...

I saved it as a text file, then did a search for 'gpu'... no luck...

What does this mean i wonder...

Why is the GM965 chipset a problem?

 

My PCI / AGP Video page in Everest is blank too..

 

That's seriously weird. I don't know, I've never really seen anything like that.

 

i guess the issue is if the integrated graphics is taking up sydtem clock cycles or not. I don't really think so, because there's no sign of x3100 drivers anywhere.

But my system is sluggish, i reckon. Terrible tearing with vsync off, and miserable frame rates whenever i turn the detail up in a game.

Once again, as per planet's numerous posts, the behaviour is sort of weird because AA, AF and res don't affect FPS nearly as much as the details settings ingame.

ie. This card is really struggling with rendering complex scenes with the latest shaders at the moment.

But what about the many happy x205 owners out there? Is it really that subjective - what one classifies as good gaming performance? Surely not.

Either you can play the latest games at your screen's native res, with high details and solid 25+FPS... or not.

Unfortunately for me, at this time, it's not!

 

Yap, that's the problem I'm facing with my X205 too.

It's really not the limited bandwidth problems due to high resolution, aa, etc as has been over-hyped by non-8700 owners...

It's more of the complexity of the graphic details that is killing the card atm...

The moment you set graphics details to above medium, the fps drop drastically even at low resolution of 1024 x 640...e.g. in WIC.

This "drastic" drop cannot definitely be simply explained by 128-bit vs 256 bit bandwidth limitation.

 

i have s9349 and im not that happy with it also. when i try to play battlefeild2 with all high settings the fps is so bad. i would have thought this laptop would have been able to handle it. i downloaded the hotfix and the lastest driver 163.67 and its still the same. i would like to know how i can find out what chip i have??? here is a pic of my systems info

 

Could you download CPU-Z and tell us what chipset it says you have?

 

CPU-Z shows GM965.
even though others show PM965/GM965.

 

The others show PM965/GM965 because they don't have the ability to distinguish between the two.


Can anyone else who owns the Toshiba X200/X205 with the 8700M-GT please download CPU-Z and report on what chipset it detects?

 

ok here it is

 

Could someone who's reported having the GM965 chipset download this driver and see if it will install?
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det... Vista* Home Premium, 32-bit version&lang=eng

 

Hi,

Not too sure if CPU-Z is misinterpreting what others report otherwise.

Which X205/X200 chipset did you have?

Cheers.

 

I have the same GM965 chipset reported.

 

Well, CPU-Z agrees with Intel's chipset identification utility, I doubt it's misidentifying it. It looks like Toshiba really did use the GM965. I'm now wondering if they even bothered to disable the integrated graphics, which is why I'm asking anyone with the GM965 chipset to try to install the driver I linked above.

 

If there is a Integrated Graphics card on the board -w ouldn't it show up in device manger after the Intel Chipset Install? Or perhaps even an unknown device?

 

It's most likely disabled, but we don't know if it's hardware disabled or not. It would be interesting to see if the Intel driver recognizes there as being onboard graphics.

 

one more thing i noticed look at the video ram it says 246mb shouldn't i have 256mb

 

That's just an error in how SysemRequirement's Lab tests your machine, I'm not sure what causes it, but it's nothing to worry about.

 

Tried the GMA driver but it didn't work.