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    Toshiba Radius 14 AMD (E45DW-C4210)

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by jrs3000, Sep 10, 2015.

  1. jrs3000

    jrs3000 Notebook Guru

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    I recently picked up this laptop and wanted to share some information on it. It doesn't appear to be much news out there about the FX-8800P Processor nor this laptop. I've taken it apart and installed a SSD into it. I have 2 sticks of 2133mhz ram on the way that I will install next week. Here's some pics of the inside that I posted. The rest are linked.

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    http://i.imgur.com/AQMIoZl.jpg Inside
    http://i.imgur.com/eZ2m7je.jpg Battery
    http://i.imgur.com/gFoFx53.jpg Far shot
    http://i.imgur.com/fzviMVJ.jpg Wireless card
     
    jrs3000, Sep 10, 2015
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    Please test this thing down to the maximum.
    I'd be interested to see how this behaves not just in games with dual-channel and fast ram, but also in professional programs such as 3d studio Max (if possible).
    :)
     
    Deks, Sep 12, 2015
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    Here's my first round of tests. I'm still trying to find a proper app to log the frequency and temps.

    Toshiba Radius 14 E45DW-C
    FX-8800p 15w (hopefully someone can unlock this to full 35w!!)

    Setup: Laptop set to high performance, CPU Min/Max state set to 100%, SSD 480gb PNY CS1100 installed, the rest is stock. Running Catalyst driver 15.20.1055 all default settings. Logging done with hwinfo64 for speed & temps

    Octane 2.0 on Power in Edge: 18601
    Octane 2.0 on Battery in Edge: 18559

    Test ran 6 times, this is score from the last of the test. The beginning test scored slighter higher as temperature was cooler.

    3dmark Cloudgate 1.1 on Power 1366x768p:
    3dmark Score: 3678 Graphics: 4783 Physics: 2034
    Graphics Test 1: 18.44fps
    Graphics Test 2: 23.84fps
    Physics Test: 6.46fps
    https://www.3dmark.com/cg/3050873

    3dmark Cloudgate 1.1 on Battery 1366x768p:
    3dmark Score:3692 Graphics:4825 Physics: 2027
    Graphics Test 1: 18.59fps
    Graphics Test 2: 24.08fps
    Physics Test: 6.44fps
    https://www.3dmark.com/cg/3050858

    Dirt 3:

    On power:
    Ultra Preset, 1366x768p, 2xMSAA, vsync off
    Total Frames: 2,035
    Avg FPS: 19.87
    Min FPS: 16.55

    On Battery:
    Ultra Preset, 1366x768p, 2xMSAA, vsync off
    Total Frames: 1,814
    Avg FPS: 19.28
    Min FPS: 16.65

    High Preset, 1366x768p, 2xMSAA, vsync off
    Total Frames: 2,851
    Avg FPS: 30.47
    Min FPS: 25.14
     
    jrs3000, Sep 17, 2015
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    Do you have the 2133 MHz RAMs installed for this test? What kind of RAM is it?
     
    Ementec, Sep 17, 2015
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  5. jrs3000

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    Tests done with stock ram. No point in faster ram if carrizo is at 15w it can only use 1600mhz.
     
    jrs3000, Sep 17, 2015
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    hp envy 15z (m6-p113dx) here. using stock hardware. fatter and uglier laptop, but cheaper. complete with an unused space meant for dvddrives that you can use to smuggle drugs or something.
    score 4909
    graphics 8135
    physics 2056
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8613420

    I was going to attribute the superior score to dual channel ram, even if its a horrible 6GB config.
    however I noticed your lack of "turbo" core clock. and your is listed as an AMD r6 ?wtf? . its an 8800p man. should be r7... drivers?
     
    Thoth, Sep 18, 2015
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    I'm running the drivers that came with it. I see you're using newer than mine. I'll update the drivers and rerun. Also looks like the cpu throttled down to 1.4ghz in mine, I haven't found anything to keep a good log of the speed changes yet.
     
    jrs3000, Sep 18, 2015
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    Word of advice: for best test results, if possible do a FRESH Windows Install and use latest official drivers.
    Stock drivers/setup can bog things down unnecessarily.

    Do we have any confirmation that the 15W 8800p can only use 1600MhZ RAM?
    You mentioned that you have 2133MhZ RAM on the way... so, if you still do, test the system with that too, but also install latest drivers.

    You could do a comparison... with latest drivers but before and after RAM upgrade.
    Single-channel RAM usually results in bad performing iGP on AMD hardware (which loves dual channel, low timings and fast ram).
     
    Deks, Sep 18, 2015
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    I would really like to know if there was any difference as well. if you have it, try it~
     
    Thoth, Sep 19, 2015
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    Next best thing, look for low RAM clock timings

    Sent from my XT1049 using Tapatalk
     
    davidricardo86, Sep 19, 2015
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    8800p at 15w only supports 1600mhz. 35w 8800p you can use faster ram. I tried the ram, no change so some of early previews were on the mark.
     
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    for both ram speed and timing, my understanding is there needs to be bios support... and I have not heard of any. does toshiba bios let you do an "XMP memory profile" or something? is there ANY 8800p or 8700p that is confirmed working with ddr3L-2133mhz?
     
    Thoth, Sep 21, 2015
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    The bios on the radius are bare, no options for memory profile. Only 35w processors of carrizo work with speeds higher than 1600. Everything 15w you're stuck at 1600. AMD neutered carrizo by only allowing higher ram speeds on 35w only and OEMS euthanize it by placing 15w in huge chasis instead of sleek ultrabook like models that end up with mainly Intel. Also, the only model so far listed as 35w Carrizo is the upcoming Lenovo Y series.
     
    jrs3000, Sep 24, 2015
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    Not right. There are more. At least those:

    - ACER Aspire Series 15.6" + 17.3" (ACER has countless models right now)
    http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=10738402#post10738402
    http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=10788818#post10788818
    http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=10810740#post10810740

    - ASUS X555DG + R8 M350DX
    http://www.asus.com.cn/Notebooks/X555DG/
    http://www.asus.com.cn/Notebooks/X555DG/specifications/

    - HEDY Super-Capable X6 (copy of the Shuttle Barebone that AMD was showing first with Gardenia platform)
    http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=10810733#post10810733
    http://translate.google.com/transla...dbox=0&usg=ALkJrhg5gfsotnd4hwHuo7PLhyZLNy1Www

    - Lenovo ideapad 500-15ACZ http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=10793245#post10793245
    - Lenovo Y700-15ACZ http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=10782171#post10782171

    - Schenker Shuttle with 25W Litho dGPU equals mostly HEDY Super-Capable X6
    http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=10706710#post10706710

    If your German is well enough, come and join the thread. Contains many information and benchmarks :)
     
    Ementec, Oct 13, 2015
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    Apparently Toshiba has a variant claiming an 256MB SSD and IPS 1366×768 screen, starting in the AU/NZ region:
    Radius 14-C003
     
    Maru, Nov 21, 2015
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    Nice! The crappy TN display killed it for me but an IPS display would make me want to buy it again, even if only at 1366x768. My eyes don't seem as good as they used to be so I don't mind this resolution. Great find!

    Sent from my XT1049 using Tapatalk
     
    davidricardo86, Nov 21, 2015
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    What clone software did you use to copy thedrive and restore partition?
     
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    You can make a system backup (including the recovery/factory partition) using the built in windows utility
     
    kmg90, Feb 9, 2016
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    stock RAM is 8 GB right? can it works with 2x8GB of RAM?
     
    wiendyn, Dec 14, 2016
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