Toshiba X305-706 major directx 10 issues!

Ok, here's the short of it: I bought this laptop and received it on Dec 1st. I've been extremely disappointed with it so far.

In case you're not familiar with it, here are the specs:

*edit: You'll have to google it, I can't post URL's.

Games run fine in directx 9, but I am experiencing an unplayable level of performance when trying to run games in directx10 I (I've tried Assassin's Creed, Crysis, and Far Cry2). Specifically, both video and audio are choppy, and are very slow. This even includes the opening movies of the games. Here's what I've tried so far:

1. Verified using the Toshiba support website that I had their up-to-date drivers.
2. Ran dxdiag and it passed with flying colors.
3. Downloaded, installed, and ran driver sweeper in safe mode and then installed the latest drivers for Vista32 that I found here.
4. Used driver sweeper again and re-installed the latest Toshiba drivers.
5. Contacted Toshiba support over the phone and the Indian drone couldn't do anything but follow the script.
6. Pulled most of my hair out.
7. Wiped the HDD, re-installed Vista 32, and installed the latest drivers from Toshiba. Still no change in performance.
8. Called up Toshiba support again. Apparently I was supposed to receive a recovery disk with my laptop, I didn't. The tech is sending me one. Considering it didn't work out of the box, I'm not keeping my hopes up.

*3Dmark vantage 07 (uses directx10) won't even run the tests.

I've heard from one other person in another forum that has this issues with directx10. Please, if anyone has this laptop model, can you run directx10? Have you had similar issues? Seriously, is going on?

 

wow ... I hope this is just an isolated incident and not a problem that is present with all them 706 ...




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Try different drivers... Not from Toshiba, but from www.laptopvideo2go.com... Especially "Dox Optimised" drivers... 180.70 or 180.84 will do the work...

 

Your problem is that you are using Vista 32 bit, oof!

"The Qosmio® X305 with nVIDIA SLI® graphics ships with a 64-bit version of the Windows Vista® operating system. If you should elect to recover your system to a 32-bit version
from the recovery media or from your hard disk drive, note that over 2GB of your computer’s system memory will not be accessible due to use of the main system memory by the
graphics system for graphics performance and limitations of the 32-bit operating system"

http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/qosmio_X305-Q706.pdf

 

When I booted it up for the first time, It prompted me to choose which version of Vista Home Premium (x86 or x64) to install. Ironically, I chose x86 for greater compatibility. Since I wiped the HDD, I'm going to have to wait until the recovery disk the send me arrives to install the x64 version. BTW, the laptopvideo2go drivers haven't worked for me either. Why would they ship it with x86 if it causes this problem?

*God, I hope you're right. If you are, then it also begs the question why their own tech support couldn't help me with this relatively straightforward answer.

 

with all the suggestions, I hope mr RFKirb can fix his problems and reports back with his system status now ...



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That note about SLI systems should not be buried in a pdf, it should be right there where it asks which operating system to select. Since 32 bit windows can only recognise about 3gb of ram to begin with you are handicapping your pc. Not sure about the SLI RAMifications of 32bit.

 

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=21978

Heres someone with similar problem.

 

Thank you Sgilmore62 for your kindness and help ...

I sure hope that fixes the problem up as I myself too is looking into a 706 setup.



His Humbleness - Your Most Humble - Funky Falling Cat Spangky

 

Alas, I have to wait on the recovery disk to try a x64 vista install. I 'acquired' a vista x64 disk image via torrent, but I can't install it because it needs a x64 DVD driver. Jesus. I just can't win. I want to pull a Jimi Hendrix and light the f*cking thing on fire.

 

Is it possible that your Q706 is running on the 9400m battery power mode or whatever it is? Supposedly this model has 3 gpu's and can be set to run only the 9400m chipset for ordinary web surfing, battery power, cooler operation, etc. I don't have my Q706 yet so not sure. There is supposed to be an adjustment to select which gpu/gpu's to use.

 

If you are in powersaver mode only the 9400m gpu will work which is a limited gpu for example, you could not play direct x10 games. The users guide says FN+F2 will display the power plans and cycle through the power plans. Hopefully you are in powersaver mode and switching to performance will solve the problem?

http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/...BVCookie=yes&ct=UG&modelName=Qosmio X305-Q706

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO0gSJGJ7Fs

 

Yeah, its pretty evident what mode you're in at any given time. Aside from the battery (power management) icon in the systray, there is a separate nvidia icon indicating whether you are in performance mode (SLI) or not. Let me assure you, if it was something easy, I would have fixed the problem by now. I'm pinning all my hopes on the recovery disk I should get Monday. I will be installing x64 vista. At the very least it should let me fullly utilize my system and graphics ram. I also hope that if it is truly a driver issue that the x64 driver will be different enough to work. *crosses fingers*

 

Yeah, I'm hoping it's something like that too, like maybe your sli gpu's got flashed with x64 drivers somewhere along the way and your x86 OS wont recognize the sli setup. The guy at the laptopvideo2go site used driversweeper in safe mode then reinstalled 32 bit drivers to solve his problem.

 

Yeah, I tried driversweeper too. I found something pretty retarded. My neighbor bought a sub $600 Toshiba satellite with 4GB of RAM, it came pre-installed with x64 Vista. She didn't even get an option for 32 bit Vista. So the budge laptop that was 1/3 the price of my system is the one that they ensure gets the right OS. With mine I was prompted by the recovery utility for a choice between 32 or 64. Its the equivalent of saying: "Congratulations! Here's your new Porsche! We're giving you a tank of free gas. You can either choose our high-octane gas or a bucket of waste oil with cigarette butts in it." I honestly have no f*cking clue what the hell they were thinking. I can tell you one thing, this experience has convinced me not to buy any Toshiba product again. I hope they are violated in a most uncomfortable fashion by a large group of excited circus animals.

 

Hi there,

may I please kindly ask you who is that Dangerous Dave guy in your avatar ???



His Humbleness - Your most humble - Funky Falling Cat Spangky

 

I think it is Devastatin Dave, I googled it and found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsE6ZD9c_zE

 

hahaha !!!



Funky Falling Cat Spangky

 

Hey friend, I'm sorry your not enjoying your laptop. As for using the laptopvideotogo method...I had similar problems, and this is how I fixed them. The Toshiba drivers are junk(outdated, unoptimized, and havent enabled physx functionality yet). First, download the DOXOptimized installer from Laptopvideotogo, then uninstall everything that is Nvidia or Ageia, then use driver sweeper the first time(it wont remove everything the first time, you can use analyse to confirm this...), then reboot into safe mode without network, and use driver sweeper again(it will remove everything now) then install the DOXOptimized Nvidia drivers from laptopvideotogo, and reboot into normal mode. You will hear and see notifications that certain nvidia DLL files cant be found, thats fine(now you know that they are gone). So now reinstall the DOXOptimized drivers, and reboot into normal mode. Now you should have eveything updated as well as PhysX funcionality, the upside is I am running everything maxed with no problems, the downside is that Nvidia Ntune gives me a BSOD, So I used Nvidia System Tools, instead, and it works fine. The reason this is occuring, is Toshiba recently released a new bios, that is supposed to disable driver-level modification/overclocking(at least I think).

 

cq842000, I just ordered my X305-706 on Friday, do you think it may be necessary for me to follow the laptopvideo2go prescription? btw, I'm glad that upgrading the processor is easy, at least I'm hoping it is as easy as you say. Planning on going with the QX9300.

 

Congratulations on your purchase. As with all X305 models, the Toshiba drivers are way behind in updates and optimizations, so yes, in order to get the best performance you'll have to go the laptopvideotogo route, at least until Nvidia starts supporting mobile GFX drivers on their release page( five years maybe), or Toshiba updates their forceware drivers...

 

Thanks cq842000, I'm looking forward to getting it, never had an SLI machine before. Current machine is an HP dv9035nr and the display is about to fall off from the hinge crack deal. HP is sending a box for me to return it for repair. I was considering the HP HDX 18t and the Asus G71G-A2. Actually ordered the Asus, but the dealer said the screen wasn't dual lamp (2 CCFL). He later, after some posters here corrected him, admitted that it did have a high end screen but I had already cancelled my order. I had been wanting the Toshiba because of the gpu's and settled on it since my Asus order got fouled up. The discount from Toshibadirect didn't hurt either.

 

http://tinyurl.com/6fay4b

Toshiba display drivers updated 12/05/08 version 176.49. I will probably try the Laptopvideo2go drivers as well.

 

The drivers from Nvidia are 180.30. Take your pick.

 

I'm having similar issues with my Q706, however it does play DX10 games, but will randomly BSOD which is very annoying. It usually happens when the sound starts to go a little choppy. I find I have to reduce the settings quite considerably. I'm using the fixed 180.48 drivers from laptopvideo2go. I've also tried the lastest realtek drivers from Toshiba website, but it still randomly crashes, even when not playing games i.e watching dvd's etc....

 

My God that is quite serious ...

I am wondering if this is the case as with all them new 706s ???



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Sgilmore62,

when you do get your 706s and setup it up,

please do give a full review of it,

I very much like to know what you think of it ...

Thanks and Regards


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Are you running 64bit vista? Hopefully my issue will be fixed when I get the recovery disk from UPS today.

 

Yes I am running 64 bit Vista.
I have another problem. I cannot partition my drive. I have deleted all shadow copies, turned off system restore and all that pony, but it still won't let me partition it

 

well im a noob at this but just a question.

i have an x300 (same as x305) and when i booted it up, it didnt ask me which version i want to install ( x64, x86) but i think x86 is installed. whats the difference? is it like 32 and 64 bit, because it says i have 64 bit installed.

thanks.

 

I finally received the recovery disks from Toshiba. I installed x64 Vista, and so far its seemed to fix my directx10 issues. I haven't installed all the games I have yet, so we'll see if I remain issue free. Thanks to all for allowing me to vent and beating your heads against a wall by troubleshooting with me.

 

When people talk about x86 or x64 they're talking about the instruction sets the OS is using. x86 refers to x86 processors (32bit) until the last few years, it was the only game in town for personal computers (not counting the Crapintoshes). x64 can also be found written as x86-64. In short, x86(32bit) and x64(64 bit). I suggest you wiki it for more info.

 

So has all the dx10 problems been solved ?

meaning the solution was to totally wiped out the 32 bit os and install a 64 bit one ???

thanks


Humble Falling Cat Spangky

 

For the most part. They run smooth, but they're all in windowed mode, and I can't figure out how to get them in full screen.

 

Pressing Alt + Enter?

 

The x86(32-bit) version differs from the x64(64-bit) version of windows, mainly by way of memory and speeds, the x64 version of an OS allows for much larger amounts of memory to be utilized(max is 3.5 gb for x86, and up to 16gb or more, for x64), but at the same time, programs optimized for x64 are generally larger(meaning you need more memory). The biggest difference for right now, until programs are optimized, is the memory, X64 has also been known to work out memory latency , and IRQ/DMA issues on higher bandwidth(higher-end) systems.