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    X205-SLi4 GPU temperature?!

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by Jstn7477, Apr 21, 2008.

  1. Jstn7477

    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    Hi,
    I just started using NVMonitor to monitor the temps of my GPUs at idle and load...and I am using Crysis in windowed mode to be the load. SLi is enabled and NVMonitor is reporting the following temps:
    P-State|GPU 1|GPU 2
    Idle|66c|64c
    Load| 97c|86c

    The temp on the primary GPU is scaring me. Are there any other X205-SLi owners getting just under 100c on their GPUs? Yes the fans work and there is NO dust in them. Is this just a driver problem or something serious? I am using 174.93 and i believe i've seen these kind of temps in other drivers. The cards are at stock 475/700 and also, there is always a lot of "micro stuttering" when SLi is enabled regardless of the GPU temp. Help please.

    -J.B.
     
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    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    Crap I just ran Crysis again and both GPUs hit 97 degrees celsius and throttled. This is definitely not normal for a 2" thick laptop.

    -J.B.
     
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    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    Ok so like 20 minutes ago I quit Crysis because the GPUs were throtling a lot. But for some reason the core temp on GPU 2 kept rising and reached 103 degrees celsius, even no 3D applications were running, and the other GPU was at 92c. I shut the laptop down and took it apart to investigate the video cards. I removed the heatsinks and everything had a reasonable amount of thermal paste on it, so I do not get what the problem is. I have tried a few different drivers but still one of the GPUs (for some reason it is usually a different one than it was before) gets to like 96 while the other one is like 8c lower and then the lower one suddenly spikes after a few minutes and all hell breaks loose. I bought a gaming laptop to game, not overheat and slow down, and now I sorta feel like an m15x owner. I am gonna put it back together now and see if anything changed. If anyone has suggestions, please reply.

    -J.B.
     
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    On my sli1 both gpu's hit around 82c while playing Crysis, but I did take mine apart and put some arctic silver 5 on the gpu's and some ceramique on the memory chips. Getting temps in the 80's is normal for these laptops cause the video cards are sandwiched tightly together, but 97c is a bit high but not out of the ordinary.
     
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    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    Ya the 97c was with AS5...and my GPUs throttle at that temp, which makes gaming suck and overclocking impossible. I used like a grain of rice sized dab of AS5 on the GPUs. I think that my laptop has always had this problem because when I would OC like a month ago to say 550/800 the GPUs would stutter when playing HL2:E1 (the speed of the ash falling from the sky would "pulse" . I don't know why one is ~10c higher than the other during crysis though. I am wondering if maybe one of the heatpipes wasn't soldered on correctly or is defective. What is strange though is if I tilt the laptop with the keyboard facing me I hear a brief crinkling noise and the temp suddenly goes down like 4-6c in a matter of seconds. I don't know what is causing it, but it isn't making me happy at all.

    -J.B.
     
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    Idle|66c|64c

    That is kind of high for an idle. My sli1 is right now at idle with temps of 59/58 with the 174.93.
     
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    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    I know...and that is at stock. IDK what is wrong with the cooling system that is causing the abnormal temperature. I swear I have taken apart this laptop about 5 times just to see if I could find the problem...I even replaced the crappy TIM with Arctic Silver 5 and the temps haven't even gone down. Both heatsinks are properly screwed on, the heatsinks themselves have never accumulated dust, the fan is on like the fastest setting the whole time, the heatpipes have no dents or kinks, both heatsinks are properly aligned in front of the fan output, and everything seems to be set up right. I cannot find any explanation at all for this problem, or why one of the GPUs suddenly heats up to ~97, I quit Crysis and then the thing still goes up to 103 and sits there, and takes a while to cool down. I am at a loss right now because I can't play a game for more than 5 minutes without being above the throttle trigger point, and I can't send it back because I took the thing apart. I don't know if the heatpipes are defective, Toshiba cranked up the volts to make it run hotter and unoverclockable, or if the thermal probe chip (if there is one) is defective. Basically, at this point I have a lemon of a gaming computer. I really need a solution to this, and fast, whether it be buying brand new GPU heatsinks off of eBay or something else. :(

    -J.B.
     
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    I just remembered that when I took mine apart I found some epoxy residue on some of the memory chips that was keeping the heat sinks from seating properly that was causing my temps to go to like 92c that was my reason for taking mine apart for the 5th time, after removing th epoxy from the memory chips and applying a even coat of AS5 on the gpu`s and some ceramique on the memory chips the temps rarely go beyond 82c under load and they idle at around 56c depending on ambient temperature of my room.
     
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    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    Yeah I removed the "marshmallow" stuff on the bottom heatsink (the one with the PCIe lane controller and the GPU because the memory chips had direct contact with the heatsink, but I left it on the memory of the second GPU because the heatsink "floats" about 2-3mm over the chips and doesn't have direct contact. So, I don't know what I should do about it. Right now I am at school (which is cold) and im pulling 63c and 64c right now in 2D idle.

    -J.B.
     
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    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    Someone explain to me how my GPU2 just did 117c while GPU1 was doing 90c after putting the chassis with the front audio jacks facing the ceiling and the laptop never bothered to shut off??

    -J.B.
     
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    idling mine do idle in the mid 60's, 63-67ish, always have. When in use, they get the hottest in Crysis, and I'm in the mid 90's at times, but have never gotten any throttling... not sure at what point that happens, and I thought they were relatively safe up to 120C? Granted, way hotter than I'd like to run them, but around 100C isn't completely unheard of from what I've read. Mine usually run in the upper 80's-low 90's, GPU2 usually 5 degrees cooler than 1 or so.

    I'm curious what's throttling yours down? I've had a few runs in the upper 90's with some overclocking up to the point of artifacting do to overclocking but never any throttling do to temps that I've seen. Wonder at what point that happens? Maybe a temp monitoring problem that throws it all whacky?
     
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    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    I wouldn't care if mine ran at 92c max...I just want to be able to play a game for more than 5 minutes and not have one or both of the processors going above 95c and throttling the stupid things by insane amounts even at their stock NVIDIA speeds. Throttling means I have to run crysis at like less than medium and at 1024*768 res. I'm so distraught because I plunked 2400 bones on a 10 pound heavyweight gaming laptop and not being able to game. It sucks. My dad just got an ATI Radeon 3850 AGP card for his 3 year old AGP Socket 939 system and it plays crysis on MAX at 1440*900 with decent frames. And flipping the thing around should not raise the temperature of a GPU by 20c. That is just uncalled for. And I can't return it because I took it apart to find out wtf is going on in there. So, I'm pretty much screwed.

    -J.B.

    -J.B.
     
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    A few minutes ago I was like lets turn off SLi and see if that brings down the temperature so I disabled SLi and ran Crysis. Turning off SLi results in GPU1 idling at 61c while GPU2 takes all the work and at max load it hit 76c at stock. Not bad. So I figured that if the heat went down, maybe I can OC this one GPU and see if I can get closer to 2 GPU performance. At 530/900 the GPU was at like 86c and I tried 600/900 but then it leaped up to 96c after a few minutes and started throttling to cut down the heat. At least I am making a little progress here, but I still want both GPUs working and at full 3D speeds after 5-10 minutes.

    -J.B.
     
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    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    OMG I just fixed my laptop. I just played Crysis at 550/850 and never broke 92c. I will go into detail later, but the repair involved a good amount of aluminum foil, a few zip ties, some tape and the idea of "sandwich" :D

    -J.B.
     
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    hey macgyver try using ice water on the keyboard
     
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    Hey, I want to hear the details about this LOL!!!!