X305 is now an outlet item at best buy?

Does this usually mean there making way for a new model? just been on toshibas website and there is now the X305 Q705 only difference seems to be $50 cheaper and 320gb HD's oh well no 9800M GTX yet then (Keeps fingers crossed for the X305 Q702!)

 

Thanks to google cache, I was able to get a snap shot of the x305-q702's specs (and adjusted the url to compare with the gateway FX).



edit: I also want to attach this chart...

 

What! What the hell does this mean!? Toshiba is already abandoning this model? Man this'll **** me off. And 320 g hard drive. Robaloi hurry up and buy one. We need critical mass.

 

lol critical mass......thats no moon.........its an X305 and its users!

 

So it is only going to have 3 Gb RAM?
Man that sucks.

 

specs aside, that is one hideous looking laptop.

 

Luckily I returned my X305 back to BB when I had a system problem. Then following week the Gateway P-7811FX went on sale and couldn't be happier getting the P7811FX for less money and a free game. The Gateway FX series also have better resale value.

Toshiba aimed high with the X305 but really can't beat the Gateway P-7811FX in terms of specs, value, and marketing. Have yet to see a X305 review on this site or any other popular tech site but the P-7811FX already has atleast 3 favorable reviews out there.

 

tbh I dont get why they released the x305 in the US, when here in Europe we get the x300-11w and 11s which are more powerfull in many ways than the x305. (and the gateway)

 

have you tried the new video drivers 176.18? if so how did you install it and when you game on battery does your frame rate drop? I ask because I have the x305 and the US toshiba site doesn't have the 176.18 drivers, only the 175.90 but suek gave me a link I tried it at first and found it was better performing, then I tried laptopvideo2go 178.13 drivers but when I would play on battery and not plugged in the frame rate in gaming would drop to like 8 frames per second. I tried going back to 175.90 but now it too would also drop in performance unplugged. So I had to do a system restore and now the X305 plays good on battery again and I'm afraid to upgrade my video driver again just because of what happen. The X305 is a bit more powerful than the x205 sli1 and I got mine for 1400 US dollars so pretty bargain.

 

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/20847/1092/1/1/

and quite a few others...

 

Yesterday was my last day to return or exchange my x305 at Best Buy and I was seriously thinking about exchanging it for the gateway model but I kept googling and reading on both systems and I stuck with the Toshiba. Just because I read on a forum where one of the Best Buy Geek Squad member suggested to a person to get the Toshiba because it was a more stable build quality over gateways and that he noticed a lot of gateways coming in for probs. Which confirmed why I got the Toshiba in the first place was because I suspected it was a more thought out product when in development taking into account not just specs but extras and build material and what was necessary for a good gaming experience, starting from the ground up. I love this notebook.

 

Thanks for your info as I am bobbing back and forth trying to decide on what to get for the last few months.
Also, Gateway sold out to Acer. Does that mean we would be getting an Acer built Gateway?

Decisions, decisions.

 

I'm a bit like you at the moment urlee trying to decide what to buy take a gamble and go with the Gateway or play it safe and get the lower spec'd toshiba? But from what i've read on these forums the Gateway problems aren't as prevalent as some have made out.

 

Just my two cents, I'm exchanging my third Gateway 7811 today.

First one had a defective GPU (would get artifacts and crash within 10 minutes of playing Crysis: Warhead).

Second had a dead pixel and similar heating related lockups.

Third one had a bad LCD panel (2\3 of the screen was a blue-white, the other 1\3 was white).

All three cook the hard drive - temps on all three idled around 55C but under average use would hit 60C, and under heavy load 65C. According to Seagate (the manufacturer) the drives operating temperature is 0 - 60C, so it's on the high side :\

 

Wow- sounds like some serious QC issues...

Right now, doing some work within windows I get 38C on the HDD.

 

Best buy no longer sells Qosmios now. Just checked

 

Sounds like you had really bad luck but it's a good thing you got the problems early. There definitely is a higher defect rate with the Gateway but pretty sure a lot of folks like me had no problems with theirs.

One thing I noticed with the X305 is it does have better cooling, the chasis is thicker at the bottom and thus more airflow. I still think it's a pretty good gaming notebook but lacked the features the Gateway has.

Unfortunately the lack of marketing hasn't helped the X305 sales.

 

They aren't on the website anymore, but is this confirmed nationwide for the stores? I would assume they're still clearing out the stock of the remaining systems.

The Q70 5 is on Toshiba's website as another BB exclusive.

 

Part of the Gateways problem is the design. I have yet to find someone running the stock hard drive under a heavy load with temps under 50C. The reason I worry about HD temps is even though I make a lot of backups, heat will eventually kill the drive and replacing it then restoring a backup is a pain in the butt.

The CPU and GPU in the Gateway are faster, but some of that is offset if you want to run games at the native resolution. The Toshiba has the slower 9700 GTS, but you get to run games at 1440x900 and you're at the native resolution. The Gateway has the 9800, but you're going to need that additional GPU power if you want to run games at the native 1920x1200, or deal with slightly fuzzier graphics if you drop the resolution (I'll admit it handles lower resolutions vrey well).

The Toshiba actually has quite a few extra features - much better speakers, built in bluetooth. Again, to offset, some will love the higher resolution of the Gateway, and the Gateway has significantly better battery life.

If the Q705 is replacing the Q701 and only has the bigger HD (320GB according to Toshibas site), that's another small bonus point for the Toshiba, but overall, they've both got some advantages and disadvantages. I just wish the Gateways disadvantage wasn't a somewhat poorly designed chasis that causes a lot of heat issues

 

One user on here (cj) overclocked the 9700m GTS heavily and was impressed. I think he pulled around another 1000 or so 3dmark06 points out of it. UK spec is better even on the basic models, but bear in mind you can upgrade many of the parts according to what others have said due to the design of the system.

 

I agree, when I exchanged the X305 for the P-7811FX, the 3 issues I have was the 1920x1200 screen being too high for gaming, the speakers are not as good as the X305 which also has built-in subwoofer, and the lack of Bluetooth.

I am not even using the stock 200GB 7200rpm drives, I rather have a pair of 320GB 5400rpm drives RAID 1 with them for redundancy and read performance.

I play most of my games like COD4, WOW, and Crysis at 1280x1024 or slightly above, sure it doesn't look as nice but you get used to it. The 1920x1200 screen really shines when you are using it for graphics or web design.

The screen is much better quality than the X305 or the P-6860FX.

I think had Toshiba lowered the price to around $1299, it would be a much better deal imo. It's hard to compete with the P-7811FX's sales price and high paper spec for notebook shoppers.

 

I will note that if you're playing any older games (Source engine games, FEAR, etc), you can run them at 1920x1200 really really well (with most graphic options turned on). I actually got used to the high resolution screen for desktop enviroment stuff. Also, I agree the screen quality itself is much better on the Gateway, assuming you get a good one.

The hard drive temperature problem still drives me nuts. That's basically the only thing making me debate whether I should try another gateway or try to get the Toshiba for $1250 (or even $1300).

 

Just got back from Best Buy and at the store here (Springfield, OR) the laptop is not clearance and is still at it's regular price of $1550. I hinted that I might consider getting it instead exchanging another Gateway if I could get it for the prior weeks sale price of $1350, but the guy couldn't do it.

Going to try another Gateway, then I might push the issue of getting the sale price a little harder (rather than just a flat return and buying a laptop elsewhere).

For what it's worth, they had five or six of the Toshibas and they checked their system and both the store and warehouse show it as an active item.

 

well their still selling the x300 (same as x305 but im in canada) and it still sells for 1699$ CAD.

also, this has a 320GB 5400 RPM HD. i dont really care much for the x705, as it still has a 320 GB HD but its 7200 RPM. this wont make a noticable difference performance wise but definitly heat wise.

anyway i love this laptop and it can play games nearly maxed out on highest resolustion. but for me, i like to play cod4 on 1280 res and get about 100 - 125 fps (without aa, because i only notice a drop in fps but not an increase in performance)

also the hd on the toshiba with a 320 gb hd 5400 rpm idols around 30c and maxes out at about 40c. the gpu maxes out at 65 without a cooler and 50 with one. and if the hd temp on the gateway reaches 65, im happy i didnt get one. ill upgrade this thing in a few years to the 9800M GTX and the 2.53 processor.

anyway, ill take the toshiba over the gateway any day

 

The X305-q701 is on the website, BB outlet local pick up only, $999! Thats some good bang for the buck, I went into boston and picked one up.

Its replaced by the X305-Q705 only difference is the 320g HD, different wireless card. (Intel® Wi-Fi Link 5100AGN ) from a (Atheros® Wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n)


Toshiba carries the 706 and 708, better GPU. CPU. soild state HDs, SLI, and most important different chipsets, they are using the NVidia® GeForce® 9400M chipset not the Mobile Intel® PM45 Express Chipset, that is why the gpu cannot be upgraded to SLI on either the 701 nor 705.

Has anyone upgraded there cpu on there 701 yet? I was thinking p8600 but am not sure if the PM45 can handle it.