X870 3D Laptop With Core i7-3610QM and GeForce GTX 670M

I am very surprised there isn't a thread about this yet as this is a relatively old announcement, about a month old. Anyway the next gen of Qosmio's have been officially announced!

Check here for some cooooool specs:

Toshiba Qosmio X870 laptop with Core i7-3610QM and GeForce GTX 670M

Here is a blog focusing on the GeForce 6xx GPU. I LOVE the fact that the new Qosmio will have the 670m instead of what most of us would have expected, which would be the 660m.

Toshiba Qosmio X870 - 3D Vision Blog

Here is a hands on preview article:

Toshiba Qosmio X870 Hands on - Laptop - Trusted Reviews

Apparently it's slated to release in the second quarter of 2012:

Toshiba announces Qosmio X870 gaming laptop for Q2 | The Verge

Here are some pictures:

 

Good find Chiro!

Very good news for the GTX 670m; basically a rebadged GTX 570m, but that's still pretty powerful.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html
Looks like in terms of design, it keeps the x775 style but looks to be more toned down.

Can't wait to see this launched, hopefully Toshiba resolved the throttling issues they have/had with the x775 and implemented a new cooling design with the x870.

 

Thanks, Alex!

I think the main thing I like about the 670 (or the sister-GPU 570, for that matter) is that it is a higher class of GPU than the 560. x60 is a more "budget" chip than the x70 or the x80. Obviously the 680 would be the ideal GPU but that would be way too expensive for the Qosmio class of laptops and you would have to go to Sager or Alienware for about twice the cash.

I think there is a really nice difference between the 560m and the 570m as it is, to make even that jump VERY attractive to gamers. Apparently the 670m is still a little faster than the 570m, even if it is a re-badge. Plus, it does have the virtue of being the "next generation" of GPU chipsets.

 

It was posted before.

Back in March.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/toshiba/650151-toshiba-qosmio-x870.html

 

Man, if Toshiba would go back to the 18.4 inch I would upgrade without looking back! lol I have the X550-Q893 and I LOVE my screen. Still, with the GPU getting a bump from the x60 to the x70, that is pretty huge! I don't think a lot of people realize the performance bump of going from say a 560 to a 570. It's actually a bigger bump than a 460 to a 560 in most ways.

 

The difference between a 460M and the 560M is null in most games. Sure there's a little difference, but it's not enough to really justify the upgrade.

The 670M (570M) is around ~40% faster than the 560M. I'll be grabbing one if they hit the markets fast enough... >w<

 

imglidinhere, that was sort of my point both in this thread and in several of the threads about the present gen Qosmios. When I first purchased my Q893, back in September of 2010, which is now over a year and a half ago, I spend a meager $1,050.00 on it as a sort of "budget gaming machine," but was immediately BLOWN AWAY by how amazing the laptop was for all games I played on it. Even now, newer games are not really challenging my machine. So even though my intent in buying the Q893 (with the 460m GPU) was to buy it, use it for a year, then upgrade to something with more bells and whistles for around the $2K mark, I realized, like you, that there was nothing in the present gen to make me abandon my Q893.

As you noticed, the difference between the 460m and the 560m is marginal at best. But also, I have the 18.4 inch screen. I am not in terrible need of USB 3.0, I think the last gen Qosmios are MUCH more aesthetically beautiful than the newer ones, and for gaming, my pre-Sandy Bridges GPU is just fine!

So why spend the money at this point when I would probably still overall like my machine better than the newer ones?

However, with the 570m, I think that all of a sudden it seems more like a bonafide upgrade to me.

 

I went to the main site looking for drivers and scrolled to the bottom of the Qosmio support list and beheld four separate machines for the x870 line!

One of them was an x870 and the other three were x875 machines.

All the drivers for the machine stated 'Beta' so it's something for us Toshibians? is that what we are?

 

Imglidinhere, t's odd that there is no information about the coming x870 on Toshiba's site even though it is supposed to be launching in June. There are several Internet news articles about it from literally all over the world, but other than your finding the drivers, I can't find any reference to the new Qosmio anywhere on the official site.

Weird!

 

It's typical for Toshiba [and most manufacturers] to be officially ignorant of any upcoming releases. However, once they launch they won't shutup about them

 

Alex, it's probably because they have a crapload of what is about to become "last gen Qosmios" in stock and want to dump as many as possible.

 

Mixed bag for me. Better looking than the monstrosity of the previous gen, but still not as elegant as the X505. Also, 17.3", and I've never liked having the exhaust where my mouse hand is. I wonder how hot it'll get.

I do like the aluminum construction, and the large touchpad.

However, the reason I bought my X505-Q893 was because at $900, there was no way to spec a desktop for cheaper (plus the extra labor involved). Above ~$1300, I find it really hard to justify a gaming laptop over a desktop, especially when one can be upgraded and the other can't.

Still love my X505. Only thing that kinda bugs me is the noisy left CPU fan. How about you ChiroVette?

 

Until you've heard the jet engine of a fan this R2 has, you don't know what a noisy fan really is... XD That rattle is irritating, yes, but this thing is just LOUD.

My mom was like: "That's your new laptop making all that noise!? Good grief..."

But yeah, the CPU fan rattles because of how it's positioned or something...

 

Honestly, NOTHING Toshiba has put out before the X505 or since has anywhere near the aesthetic beauty of our laptops, at least in my opinion. It is one of the reasons I don't want to upgrade, though admittedly a very small concern. But damn I am typing on this now and it is just gorgeous!

And, yeah, I am loving the 18.4 inch screen. While I know we are only talking 1.1 inches, that is another reason I am not looking to jump on the upgrad bandwagon.

"moved 2nd half of post to x505 Owner's Lounge - alexUW"
http://forum.notebookreview.com/toshiba/428805-official-x500-owners-lounge-27.html#post8544872

 

Why doesn't someone try upgrading their x770 before they buy this machine? Its MXM you know.

 

niffcreature, what does MXM mean?

 

In a world where Google exists...One man will find answers!

Mobile PCI Express Module - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

to add to a4500435..

It also means $$$

I'm just too dang cheap to blow $200-400 bucks for something that may or might not work..but all offers of free testing can be arranged.

I'm looking for a cheap CPU upgrade but I gather the upgrade crowd has the prices rather high ATM. So, I continue to lurk before leaping..

 

Do you think this will fit in my x775 3d lap-top ? I am willing to try it, if it dosen't then I can return it....

Nvidia GeForce 580M 2GB DDR5 for clevo eurocom etc upgrademonkey | eBay

 

Well, it's a $73 dollar question..15% restock fee?

I would love to find out. You would be replacing a 75 watt card with a 100watt card. The biggest question is will the x775 BIOS let you run or recognize the card?

AFAIK you will be the first to try it. If it works..a huge round of applause!

Maybe niffcritter and Alex can give you some support.

Best of Luck!

 

My opinion is that it won't work. Maybe others can chime in.

 

I wouldn't dare try a 100w GPU in the x775 line. The GPU and CPU are both on the same heatpipe connection so you're guaranteed to overheat your GPU doing that. I'd go for nothing beyond the 570M.

 

Weird how supposedly this new Qosmio is releasing this month and there is so far NO new information about it. I would think that even with old stock left over, Toshiba would want some fanfare coming up on a new release. I remember when the last gen of Qosmio's were releasing there was a ton of press leading up to the launch. Makes me wonder if the so called June release isn't bull.

 

Qosmios have never really had much fanfare. When I was shopping for laptops, I had no idea the Qosmio line even existed. It was purely by accident and good luck that Toshiba and Amazon got together for the Q893.

 

Well it looks like J&R is going to have these available as of tomorrow, though this may be a mistaken ad because these machines aren't even on Toshiba's site. I must say, these machines look VERY IMPRESSIVE!

Here are the two models J&R stocks right out of the gate:

Lower end model with 12GB RAM and no BD as well as two 500GB HD's:

Toshiba Qosmio X875-Q7280 17.3" Notebook PC - Black Widow in PC Notebook Computers | JR.com

Higher end model for only $450.00 more (At $1,849.99) boasting a 1TB single drive (rather than two 500GB's, making it more easily expandable), a 750GB Hybrid Drive, plus a Blu-ray reader/writer and a whopping 16GB RAM:

Toshiba Qosmio X875-Q7290 17.3" Notebook PC with NVIDIA 3D Vision 2 Kit in PC Notebook Computers | JR.com

And I am sure that other retailers like Amazon, Best Buy, and Toshiba Direct will come out with a plethora of models as well. I must say I am VERY impressed with how jam packed with power these machines are, even the lower end one for $1,399.99!

Both models have the same MASSIVE i7 3610QM processor with 2.3 GHz and 3GB of VRAM on the GeForce 760m.


....Just wow!!

 

They made a mistake with the 1080p monitor... XD

instead of 120hz, they stated 120 GHz.

 

lol That is pretty funny, but what I am more surprised at is that they are the only place on the web that seems to be selling the new Qosmio. Makes me wonder now if they didn't jump the gun and will have to cancel any orders for a week or two until everyone else has the new machines.

 

Nitpicking..but darn if they still have the most used ports to the right front side!

Toward the back or the very back goes a long way in avoiding any corded trauma for right handed users. I'm a lefty that bats right and so constantly fight plugged in mice, drives and headphones. If you only use one each wireless mouse; then never mind.

 

Ok I bought this notebook last friday at a PC exhibition over here in Singapore by trading my old MSI GE620 which has GT540M. So far, loving this beast I should say. Didn't have any major issues with any top graphic intense games as of now and 3D is decent. This is my first 3D vision notebook so still messing around with settings for a better experience. The body of the notebook is good since it is of metallic build. The vent is on right side but I place my notebook on my lap and mouse is usually on the bed so I didn't yet fry my wrist . For those who use their mouse parallelly with the notebook, it must be a let down, unless they manage alternate positions. Overall, it is manageable. No noise from the fan, not yet. There are 2 USB 3.0 ports on the right and 2 on the left (all four being USB3.0). I keep visiting Geforce and Toshiba sites everyday for any updates for drivers. Toshiba hasn't even put this model on their site except for Europe and US sites. Europe site has drivers, but are basically the one's that come with the notebook (factory versions). I hope the upcoming Geforce drivers fix the FPS drops in Witcher 2, and improve 3d vision performance. I read someone ask here about the 3dvision version, it is version 2.0 and is beautiful.

 

Yeah I am interested with the X875 Black Widow model.
Wish someone reviews it because I'm not going to be the Guinea Pig!

 

Toshiba Direct now has two version of the x875 on their site [non-customizable].
x875-q7280 [900p screen]: Toshiba Qosmio X875-Q7280 Laptop
x875-q7290 [1080p - 120hz - 3D screen, and other upgrades]: Toshiba Qosmio X875-Q7290 Laptop
General info: http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/qosmio/X870

We should start seeing more retailers starting to get these in soon.

 

any ideas if Toshiba would come out with the Kepler GPU's ?

was waiting for toshiba qosmio .. but its got a sad 670m

 

Probably when a refresh comes out [6 months].
Considering the Qosmio uses mainstream GPUs [not highend], the GTX 670m will probably remain until it is deemed subpar to mainstream gamers and the price of highend cards come down. Be aware most manufacturers still use fermi [Toshiba, ASUS, MSI, Samsung; GTX 670m/675m].

The only GTX Kepler cards that I am aware of are the GTX 660m [lower performer] and GTX 680m [highend class].

 

The GTX 670M is far from being a "sad" laptop GPU. Consider it to be slightly faster than the older GTX 465.

Yeah... unfortunately there is a sizable jump from the 660M to the 680M... I personally think Nvidia didn't really process that one all the way out when they had it on paper... I mean... seriously:

(Kepler) GTX 660M has 384 CUDA cores - 9.8K Vantage GPU
(Fermi) GTX 670M has 336 CUDA cores - 12.3K Vantage GPU
(Fermi) GTX 675M has 384 CUDA cores - 13.5K Vantage GPU
(Kepler) GTX 680M has 1344 CUDA cores - 20.8K Vantage GPU

Mind you, the 680M can overclock and is based on the Desktop GTX 670.

Way to set the bar for the enthusiast market Nvidia... XD Makes me wonder if they'll introduce something slightly above the 660M...like a 670M V2 or whatever. Something that keeps Kepler in the mix. >.<



EDIT:

Also, I was checking out the specs sheet and there was a link to ACTUALLY CUSTOMIZING YOUR OWN QOSMIO. O_O

Teehee! Clicky


(Is pricey, but worth it...so freakin' worth it...)

 

lol Dude that's a little jaded, particularly considering your first statement about the 670m not being a "sad laptop card" is 100% true. Honestly, the x80 is the high end NVidia, and everything underneath it is technically a budget card, costing a great deal less money. I know people see 670 and think "Oh okay it is almost a 680!" but it really isn't, nor is it meant to be. Honestly, I think it is a really nice jump from both the 560m and leapfrogging right over the 660m, which most of us would have predicted was going to be the next card, but still. Honestly, any laptop spec'd out like a Qosmio with a 680 is going to be a Sager/Clevo or Alienware, perhaps even an Asus if you buy it from a customizing site such as xoticpc, and is going to start out at a grand more than the lower end Qosmio with the 670. Personally, I think this is a great card for a gaming laptop for someone on a budget.

 

The 660M is about 10% slower than the 670M, and that's because the drivers are holding the 660M's potential back a bit.

Stock 570M scores in Vantage, for the GPU, were like...9,900...but when the drivers grew more optimized, that score now hits around 11,000 without a problem.

Also, I'd like to say that the 660M only draws like... 43 watts vs the 670M's 80 watts. Overall, the 660M has the potential of being better later on down the road...but yeah...the 670M is still a wicked card. It's faster than the 6970M even. But alas, it has no SLI connector. So SLI 670Ms are impossible unless you'd only like 1.3x scaling maximum vs something like 2.0x scaling maximum.

 

It looks like Toshiba has improved the cooling system on this series compared to the previous generation. Do you think the X870/X875 series will have heating problems?

 

Probably not. That exhaust fan is HUGE. XD

 

Are there any in-depth reviews for the X870/X875 series out now?

 

Does anybody know where I could also find this exact model somewhere else for the exact same price? I looked on amazon.com or ebay.com but they don't have this exact Laptop.
I would buy it now directly from toshiba direct but it says 5-6 weeks build time even if just want the default "customizable" . I'm talking about the x870 found in this link:
Toshiba Qosmio X870-BT2G23 Laptop

Please if someone knows where I could find this Laptop for this cheap price in like 2-3 weeks delivery time tops then I would really appreciate it. A friend is in the USA for this time there and could buy it for me that's why I need it so fast and for this price (1200$) I can't find anything with a i7 3610qm and a 670M. Only with a 660M so the x870 would be a real catch for me.

 

Unfortunately, the customizable Qosmios are only available directly through Toshiba [ie ToshibaDirect]. I will agree, $1200 for those specs is very nice!!!

Also, the x870 still seems to be very new and still not stocked in most places, thus low inventory and increased shipping times. However, as of right now the only way to get that Qosmio deal is to buy directly from Toshiba.

**EDIT**
Looks like the $1200 deal has ended.

 

Damn...
I should have ordered yesterday for just 1200$ and if the Laptop wouldn't have come on time just to cancel the order. For 1400$ it's not really that cheap anymore for me because it doesn't have a Full HD screen and for that price i can buy myself a Asus G75 with the same specs (i7 3610qm,GTX 670M,12Gb Ram,Blu Ray etc) but also with the Full HD screen and probably a better cooling system.

 

Here are some reviews:

Toshiba Qosmio X870-11Q Review | Laptops | CNET UK
Toshiba Qosmio X870 Review - Laptop & Notebook computers
Toshiba Qosmio X870-11Q review - PC Advisor
Toshiba Qosmio X870 review | from TechRadar's expert reviews of Laptops and netbooks
Toshiba Qosmio X875-Q7280 17.3-inch Laptop Personal Computer Review
Toshiba Qosmio X870-119 Notebook Review - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

 

Anyone else in the forum have one of these yet? I am curious about the responses to this machine from people here.

 

The specs seem really impressive (well, except for that 17.3" screen ), but I think the dealbreaker is that right-side vent. I used to have an HP dv7 with the same configuration...I HATED IT. Constantly blowing hot air on your mouse hand really gets terrible after awhile. Really, I'm not sure why Toshiba didn't just mirror the whole chassis, with the vents/audio ports on the left and the disk loader on the right.

Otherwise, construction seems good. I'm confounded by those who think this new design is more 'mature' than the x505 (maybe they're referring to the x305/x775, where they'd be correct), but I'd really like to see it in person...nether Best Buy nor Frys is carrying it locally.

 

Yeah, I pretty much use the mousepad for everything except gaming, which I use a 360 controller for, so the side vent wouldn't matter in the least to me.

I agree about the 17.3 inch screen. I know this is completely nit-picky on our part, but I have this gorgeous, huge 18.4 inch screen on my Qosmio Q893, same size screen as yours, and you know what? Even though we are really only talking about 1.1 inches of extra diameter, it just feels like a step backward to me.

Plus, and this is definitely nit-picky, I am absolutely IN LOVE with the aesthetics of the X505 series. The shiny black on red and the placement of the keyboard as well as the overall beauty of the machine is just second to none. It is, without a doubt, the prettiest laptop I have ever seen in my life.

Don't get me wrong, my machine is two years old and yours is coming up on two years. Sooner or later, my reasons for staying with my present Qosmio and my qualms about the "upgrade" are going to be vastly overshadowed by the sheer, mammoth power of the coming machines and the soon-to-be dated status of mine. While I can still argue that my machine is fast and powerful enough to play all the current games and so I can have my cake (enough power) and eat it (the screen size and beauty of the machine) too, at some point, I will have to go for an upgrade even if Toshiba doesn't go back to the old school 18+ inch screen and the nicer (in my opinion) design for their laptops.

Not sure either. I know companies like to improve things like aesthetics and design, but to me the new Qosmios, while being much more powerful than their predecessors, are not improvements at all, but downgrades.

I have seen them. They are fine. And honestly, if I didn't own an X505, I would probably be very impressed by the looks and design of the new machine. It isn't bad at all, and it is still one of the nicest looking lappies on the market.

 

I have to admit, I did speak a little too soon. CPU and GPU at full load showed that the GPU hit upwards of 90*C and the CPU hit over 100*C but didn't throttle. >.<

Unless there's a remedy for that, I can't see why that would be considered a viable passing "score" for any laptop.

At least the Ivy Bridge i5 chips are a bit faster this time around. >_> Sad how they didn't just go for the separate CPU/GPU setup like they had with the X505 line.

 

Ahh, the all-important but forgotten 11th Commandment:

THOU SHALT NOT USE A SINGLE FAN TO COOL MULTIPLE PROCESSORS.

If only Mel Brooks hadn't dropped that tablet...

 

^^^^ I like this rule!

 

When they come out with an i5/660M model, I'll grab one. The 660M can overclock like freaking MAD. Check out the Asus section for results. 1100mhz core anyone? X_X