new M30/M35's CSV LCD technology?

Hi, i live in canada. and i've been researching about M30 series.

and i found out about new M30 models. (ones made in 2004, i think)

they now have CSV(Clear Super View) LCD screen, which make the screen much more clear and stuffs like that -.-;;; so then they have better screen view than the old M30. (u can even tell the difference between screens of old m30 and new m30 by just looking at them)

however, i could only find information about M30 with CSV LCD screen from japan, korea, and some europe sites..

and i just couldn't find any information about CSV from US/Canadian sites. -_-;;;

somebody told me that toshiba didn't apply this CSV technology for US/Canada's M30 series -_-;;;

i wanna know if it's true! awww

 

If the technology is available, it's usually released in Asian & Europe first. Currently they may not be in Canada, but I'm sure in a few months, maybe around the winter area, they'll migrate down to the US & Canada.

-Vb-

 

I think CSV is being refered to as TruBrite Technology in the US.

Toshiba M35-S456
Toshiba 1115-S103

 

Hole423 is right. I just checked the Toshiba Canada webiste and they recently has a press release of this info in June 2004. They're currently being used in the M30-710 and M30-YSJ Special Edition (Canadian models).

http://www.toshiba.ca/web/pressrelease.grp?pressid=1205&from=38

I guess they decided to have a fancy name rather than an acronym.

-Vb-

 

hey Venombite,

are u sure about that? i just went to futureshop and used M30-710. also compared it to the old M30. but i didn't see any difference between their screens.. M30-YSJ might have CSV.. but not 710.-_-;;; (they didn't have YSJ)

 

Oops...Sorry, I just re-read the info in the Toshiba link and it turns out that the M30-710 is NOT the one with the TurBrite screen. It's only available on the M30-YSJ Special Edition.

This is a quote from their press release:

"The Satellite M30 Special Edition is the deluxe widescreen entertainment version of the Satellite M30. Featuring Toshiba TruBrite™ screen technology which doubles the brightness of the LCD, this unit has a Video/Audio input option to connect to an Xbox, cable or digital satellite or to connect to a larger TV monitor to display games or movies on – making this an ultimate entertainment system."

Again, sorry for the mixup.

-Vb-

 

oh... damn it -_-;;

so i have to get M30-YSJ in order to get an "upgraded" screen? -.-;;

dat sux...

in asia/europe, all the M30 models come with CSV screen now -_-;;

buh in canada/us, we have to buy the most expensive model to get CSV.. damn -.-;; haha

thx for ur info ! =)

 

Insoo4u,

I just went to Sam's Club here in Etobicoke and the have the M30 SE model. I also saw the screen...WOW [:0], this thing was bright. The LCD also has a shiney plastic film on top of the LCD or has a high glossy coating. The non-TruBrite LCD's seem to have a matte anti-glare coating/finish. The high gloss finish produces A LOT of glare. I don't know how this will be useful outside. It's only $2300 (I believe) at Sam's Club ($43 annual membership fee).
I then went to Costco down the street and saw the M30-710 and I must say, after seeing the M30 SE, the standard screen on the 710 is just disappointing. The standard HP LCD brightness (without Brightview) is about midway between the regular & TruBrite. The 710 went for almost the same price as the M30 SE, I think there was a $100-$200 difference but can't remember if it was more or less.

Since you're in Toronto, goto Sam's Club in Etobicoke and see for yourself, it's on The Queesway east of the 427 behind the Canadian Tire. You don't need a membership to go in, you just need it if you plan to buy anything.

-Vb-

 

How bad is the "glare" on the new M30s with True-bright technology? Does it disturb you? under what conditions does the glare make it difficult to view the screen?

 

Well, Sam's Club is a large warehouse and their lighting was ok (not as bright as the flourescent lights at the office, but from the lighting they had, I did notice the glare and was a bit annoying. I believe these type of LCD's were designed for watching DVD's/multimedia purposes. Using this type of screen (not just Toshiba's TruBrite, Sony, HP & Fujitsu has them as well, but named differently) on a notebook that may be used outside, well, let me just say, you'd better have polarized sunglasses on otherwise, you're going to go blind. I'm sure you've been blinded by light reflecting off of car windows, well, this would probably be the same if you were outside on a sunny day. You may not have too much of an issue is you mainly use the notebook at home, but make sure you don't have any open windows or light sources behind you when working, otherwise you'll get a lot of glare.
The main problem with not going with the TruBrite is the fact that the Toshiba LCD's are not the brightest in the market. The HP widescreen notebooks that use their standard LCD, not their Brightview (similar to the TruBrite) is in between the brightness of the regular Toshiba & TurBrite LCDs.

-Vb-

 

Hi there,
I live in Australia and just about to buy a notebook. This website has been quite usefull with the reviews even if I was more confused after a while wondering what I was going to buy... finally I think I'm going to get the new Toshiba M30 special edition ( 1.8Ghz Dothan, 80Gb hd ), I'm just back from the shop and I can confirm there is NO excessive glare ( very minimal actually, I could hardly see the reflection of the incadescent light ) on the new LCD display with CSV technology and this is why : from toshiba website www.toshiba.com.au -->
-Clear Super View (CSV) LCD technology is a double coating structure that reduces diffusion of inner light and reflection of outer sources. See the difference!
Well I just saw it and compared to a normal LCD screen it is just amazing !
Hope this product will be available to you soon,
Cheers,
Surfnet [8D]

 

OK I went back again to see that toshiba screen, I really like how bright it is compared to the standard LCD screen and it is true that I could noticed more glare when I was moving it around ... but it wasn't that bad and I don't think that's a problem for me anyway ... actually my problem now is that I saw the new Powerbook G4 15" and I like it a lot too, so there is a decision to make here ...[?]

 

Hi Surfnet,

I have ALSO been stuck between the M30-YSJ SE and the powerbook G4 15", but have decided on buying the Toshiba as the screen quality and everything else seems excellent and I would like to do a bit of gaming as well.
However the nVidia GoFX 5200 card doesn't seem to have been getting good reviews from the gamers.
Which one did you decide on and can anyone else reading this post give me an opinion on the Nvidia 5200 card for gaming?

Cheers!

 

Well, if you're going to be playing games, I'd stick with a PC rather than a MAC. Most current games aren't available on the MAC platform.

-Vb-

 

Hello Viagero,

Venom is right, PC is the way to go for gaming even if nVidia GoFX 5200 is not the best for that with its only 32MB DDR Vram...

I want to use my future notebook mostly for work so I don't really care about games (and I still have my new desktop PC anyway). Right now I'm thinking more about getting the powerbook G4 but if I get it it will be with the ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 coming with 128MB instead of 64MB as I wouldn't be able to upgrade it later.

Anyway I'm giving myself a few days off notebooks to clear up my mind and then I hope I get a better idea on what I really need ( or want LOL ).

More info about your graphics card here http://www.nvidia.com/page/pg_20030605775336.html

Cheers.

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Surfnet

 

Lucky you ! Here in Australia the Toshiba M30 special edition ( M30/DOO, M30/FOO, M30/GOO )come with nVidia GeForceFX 5200,3D graphics accelerator with Direct9 support but still with just 32MB DDR VRAM...

Update : they just released today ( 08/20/04 ) the brand new Toshiba M30 with the graphics card 64MB ram [ ]

 

I guess Toshiba decided that 32MB was enough in Australia. Just like HP thinks a unit with an ATI 9600 is fine with 32MB in Canada. I think it just comes down to a cost thing. All I know is, bad decisions on what models they think people will buy in different regions. They're losing a lot of business to other brands by not offering a CTO (config-to-order) option.

-Vb-

 

I love the TruBrite screen! Question: if I order the Toshiba with the 12 cell battery, will this significantly increase battery life? The longer life battery in the Sony s150 only added about an hour!

Kidztchr7

 

You're probably looking at a bit more, but probably not by much. 1.5-2hrs max. If a standard 8cell gives you approx 4hrs, adding an additional 4cells should give approx an extra 50% of power.

-Vb-

 

Toshiba claims 7.5 hours if using their power management utility which is bundled with the m30/35 series.

My brother in-law just purchased the m35-s456 for school with the 12 cell battery and he got seven hours using business applications and intermittent wireless. The downside of the 12 cell imo is the weight, it adds a beefy 1.5 lbs. (btw. you can find it on ebay for 40-50 bucks!)

I'm looking at this notebook for myself but like many others, its just hard to pull the trigger.. The glare issue worries me but I really didn't notice when i was playing with it at circuit city. Also, I was under the impression that it would be viewable outside, but from what I read here that may be a problem. If I can get a hold of my brother in-law's for an afternoon, then i'll just test if for myself.

I never thought i'de say this, but there are just too many choices.

-CJK

 

7 hours of runtime is pretty sweet. I guess you have to compromise a bit of weight for 7hrs of runtime.

Using any notebook in a sunny location (outside) will be a bit difficult because of the glare & also because the screen may get washed out. Anything backlit will suffer in a very bright environment. The "enhanced" LCD's are brighter than a standard LCD, so there should be less washout than a standard LCD.

-Vb-