no excitement about the libretto?

i searched thru the threads in the toshiba forum and found almost nothing regarding the upcoming toshiba libretto w100.
isnt anybody here excited about this device/netbook?
im thinking of getting one myself and would like input on what most people think.

 

I plan on buying it the day it becomes available...

 

not a lot here seems so interested in it though

 

Toshiba just isn't a popular brand. They don't advertise their notebooks like Dell, HP, and Acer do.

 

i was referring to the people in the toshiba forum.
they dont seem to be excited about the w100 too

 

Considering that the Libretto series of notebooks is relatively unheard of, it's no surprise to me.

 

really? i think its one of the most innovative designs ive ever seen. seems quite popular in some gadgets sites. it is a full on notebook however.

Toshiba libretto® W100 Dual-Screen Laptop PC

 

It certainly is a VERY innovative design. But the choice of OS probably contributes to the lack of enthusiasm. In spite of the design, this will be competing against slate tablets and there's a bunch of interesting ones coming out.. asus, viliv, etc. on android platforms. I am personally waiting to see if they can pull off a smooth tablet experience on win7. If so, it will be hard for me to resist.

Edit: didn't mean to say its a conventional tablet, but at this price it will need to have a flawless execution to be considered an alternative to notebooks...

 

yeah the price is a bummer, hopefully it gets cheaper when it launches.
i like the dual touchscreen/tablet design could make for some interesting uses. a friend of min commented it looks like a nintnedo ds for adults
im not worried about the o/s though as it will be faurly easy to update it to home premium or higher.
im also looking into the tablets coming out, but i just feel this form factor has potentially more practical uses than a conventional tablet.

 

So this past week at Microsoft's Worldwide Partner Conference, I had a chance to be hands on with the Fujitsu UH900, Viliv S10, Gigabyte 1000P and the new Onoyko Dual Monitor Tablet. These are all on my list to consider, the Viliv needs 2 GB of RAM, the Gigabyte handled well, The Fujitsu is ok and the Onoyko felt very flemsy. Most of those used the Atom Z or N series. The Toshiba uses a laptop CPU, I'm excited by it and can't wait : )

 

exactly, i just feel the atom cpu's are just too slow to power a touchscreen laptop.
hopefully we get some reviews soon enough

 

Ordered mine today from Toshiba Direct...2 to 3 weeks for delivery

 

how much did you get it for?

 

$1099.99 plus tax and shipping for a total of around $1200...

 

That is why there is a lack of enthusiasm. A Dual screen "portable" device that only gets 4hrs of battery life for $1,200? No thanks. I don't even see the need for two screens anyways.

 

Libretto has always been a bleeding edge SKU for Toshiba and seldom is sold outside of Asia. I've lusted for these since 1995 when I first saw them on Dynamism. I'm finally in a place to get one and there is buzz, but you'll find it in the Tablet/UMPC space more than here, beefy desktop replacements or the Thin and Lite Business systems seem to be the desire here...

I'm paying a premium for a concept device and I'm OK with that... : )

 

What exactly can the two screens do for me besides look cool and allow me to read like a "book"?

I'm not excited cause I don't know the answer to that question. Without a good answer, its just a regular - OVERPRICED laptop.

Toshiba needs to take marketing tips from Apple if they want to sell overpriced laptops that just look cool.

 

What it offers me is an ultra-mobile form factor with laptop components and the two screens will allow me to use it like a 7" laptop (clam shell) I can use it in portrait as an ebook reader and as a dual tablet PC (use a capactive stylus). I can use it flat for capactive games and let's be honest there is the pure geek factor : )

 

i dont think toshiba is trying to look cool with the libretto, its actually trying to go for something that works.
the libretto w100 is a great proof of concept imho. in essence, it is a foldable tablet - you can change formfactors from a full on tablet pc to a more standard screen and (virtual keyboard). from the demos i saw it seems to have much potential but this will eventually be dictated by software support. but iirc, w7 has native support for a dual screen, touchscreen pc.
in terms of apples gadgets, i think the only one you can compare it to is the ipad, but the libretto is a full on computer, so with that alone, it already has much more functionality.
the only drawback of the libretto is the price and hopefully that goes down after a while.

@ jnjroach
would love to hear your comments and opinions about your unit

 

A 2-4 hour battery life isn't "what works".

If I need a small computer, I can get a netbook. If I need a device to check email, websites, news, etc, while I'm on the go, I have a Palm Pre (Everyone already has a variety of smartphones these days). If I need to read a book, I can get a Kindle or an iPad... Or I just go to Half Priced Books. That still comes out to being cheaper than the Libretto and all of the seperate devices excel considerably with their purposes.

This is more of a concept demonstration, the price for the technology WILL go down but for right now, I have zero way of justifying a device that gets so hot, it melts stickers off. I can see the new replacement(s) for this hitting around $600-700 in a year (when the new one/s likely come out) which makes it easier to swallow. SSD tech already has been making a few strides here and there and that is what will reduce the price considerably for this device.

 

could you post a link where it says it gets extremely hot and melts stickers?
thanks

 

Toshiba Libretto Hands-On Details Dual-Screen UI, Virtual Keyboard Layouts

First Video - 6:18
"Its gonna get really hot"

 

Well it looks like they are sold-out at both ToshibaDirect and Amazon...dude...

 

Isn't this the laptop that is about the size of my cell phone? :laugh:

 

Your cellphone has dual 7" screens?!?!

 

lol No just a single 4.3, but it's close!

 

I actually like the look of this - I pre-ordered one through Amazon.com

Amazon.com: Toshiba libretto W105-L251 7-Inch Dual Touchscreen Laptop (Silver/Black): Computer & Accessories

 

sold out

 

i really dont see the heat being such an issue as some notebooks, like my girlfriends macbook do get really really hot too.
the only issues i see with the libretto are the price and the short battery life. like you said, putting it in the 600-700usd range would change the appeal of this machine drastically. but the form factor seems really perfect. i cant imagine myself typing for any significant amount of time in an ipad or any other tablet. it also makes a good e-reader form factor and can be used as a standard tablet in a sense. it also has an actual notebook cpu so it aint some enalrged smartphone and thus isnt limited by its lack of flash or sluggishness when doing simple tasks like tabbed browsing.
but with that being said, it is still difficult to comment and give an assessment on a very new product especially if you havent even used or touched it yet. so ill reserve more comments till i see more reviews and hear from actual users first.
however id have to say that the wow-pow.com review you posted was extremely positive on the w100.
this could be the microsoft courier reborn.

 

So I recieved the Libretto today and it is awesome!! Review to follow including photos

 

hey wow cool man. your probably the first in nbr to have one.
will be eagerly waiting for your pics and review

 

Hands-on with the Toshiba Libretto W105-L251 | Crave - CNET

 

I am getting the definite impression that this is getting reviewed by people who don't understand it.

- It is not a phone.

- It is not an iPad.

- It is not an Android running Froyo.

- It is not a gadget.

It is a fully functional notebook pc you can hold in your hand. I think these guys are not realizing that putting an i3 dual core, 2 gb ddr3 ram, 64 gb SSD hd computer in your pocket is actually pretty cool.

I am finding that I'm getting used to navigation, that the fan is not going that much, and that this will be pretty fun to work with.

sabbys

 

All I know is have the portability of a UMPC and the power of a laptop with 2 gorgeous multi-touch screens, and as I'm flying cattle class in India next week I will be able to use my laptop which i can't even open up my 12" on these flights : )

 

Playing starcraft 2 (although with most of the settings on low) on the go with a device that fits in my pocket is one of the many reasons why I love the W105!

Also, it runs some of the HD videos (720p h264, haven't tried 1080p) that I own perfectly

 

wow playing sc2 is an impressive feat indeed!
can you do it with dual screens?

 

If you run SC2 in windowed mode, then you can drag it across both screens, but windowed mode is laggy. Full screen on one screen is awesome though. Just played online last night and won (using a BT mouse though )

 

wasnt the screen too small to play on?
-probably not huh, you won