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    Wtb Cf 29 Mk1 Touch Screen System Restore Disks

    Discussion in 'ToughBook Buy Sell and Trade Forum' started by shamrock442, Dec 21, 2009.

  1. shamrock442

    shamrock442 Notebook Enthusiast

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    have a cf 29 mk1 touchscreen windows xp pro operating system looking for the system restore disks. thanks in advance mike
     
  2. Doobi

    Doobi ToughBook DeityInTraining

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    Talk of buying/selling Restore disks on this Forum is a BIG NO-NO. We are not allowed to bring this up, sorry.
     
  3. tough-2-go

    tough-2-go Notebook Deity

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    h3lpmedic Notebook Consultant

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    There must be some sort of mis-interpetation of this rule... Factory restore disks should not be banned from discussion or BST. There is no reason to, factory restore disks are tangable items that do not suggest or promote anything illegal.

    The act of asking someone to make an image of their HDD for someone else is forbidden and can be considered piracy. <-- maybe this is what you were refering to?
     
  5. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    Doobi

    It's OK

    Whats not OK is asking for Copies or Internet Download sites for the disks

    Alex
     
  6. Doobi

    Doobi ToughBook DeityInTraining

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    Roger Roger.. Carry-on then..
     
  7. Rob

    Rob Toughbook Aficionado

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    I was gonna say: Thats cuz Rick and Alex (& me) are the bosses!! :D haha...
     
  8. Silver Trooper

    Silver Trooper Notebook Deity

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    One thing I wanted to have clarified. Do you or do you not need a key when using the restore discs? If yes, then it really should not matter where you get the discs or copies as they still won't do you any good without the key. If no, then I understand why the sensitivity.
     
  9. eno801

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    As I understand it the OEM key is in the BIOS so it won't work on any computer. The install checks the BIOS key and installs if it is there. I could be wrong though. That is for Windows XP OEM cds such as the Dell discs though. My CF-30 restore discs are more like a ghost or acronis image that will only work on that model of CF-30. It wont work on a Cf-29,etc.
     
  10. ToughNut

    ToughNut Notebook Evangelist

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    No keys required and recovery CDs are not applicable across the board, even with the same Mark numbers, eg. CF-28 Mark3. If the CDs are designated for models with WinXP COA, it will not install itself onto a unit with Win2K COA.

    I'm amazed how such technology can be imposed, before there's even an OS, but IMHO, keys are just a formality when the governed use of such CDs are so very very specific.
     
  11. ohlip

    ohlip Toughbook Modder

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    That is what they called corporate edition cd's. They can install as many as they want. Everytime they install an OS to the unit it generate dif. keys for each in every unit.


    ohlip
     
  12. eno801

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    ohlip, I thought corporate cd's had one key that was volume licensed. I have a friend running a corporate version of of xp some "friend" gave him. He can not get any windows updates because that corporate key is blacklisted. If corporate versions generated different serials for every install wouldn't it be more difficult to blacklist pirate bit torrent copies.
     
  13. Twocents

    Twocents Notebook Consultant

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    I'm pretty sure that Eno is correct, I've re-installed XP Pro on my fiance's laptop several times using the corporate key that it came with from her employer and it always shows the same key and never needs activating. Her IT department loves her because they never have to fix her laptop....if only they knew. -smirk-
     
  14. Toughbook

    Toughbook Drop and Give Me 20!

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    Yes... The OEM Recovery Disks install the same key on each unit. But, as discussed, they must be installed on the proper MK# unit or you will get the notification that it is the incorrect unit and will not install... Nor can it be made to install as it addresses the BIOS to see if it is the proper unit.

    Now before anyone gets into the "Well... Can we rewrite the BIOS or software?"... Don't even make the turn down that street... It is a dead end!
     
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    ohlip Toughbook Modder

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    I cannot discuss any further as it is against the rule and policy of the forum same as like copying a copyright materials. Sorry!


    ohlip
     
  16. Azrial

    Azrial Notebook Deity

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    VLK "Corporate" copies of Windows XP do not generate unique Keys for each install.

    The Panasonic XP disks I have seen are not VLK, but are OEM versions. If your PID number in System Properties has an "OEM" in the number, there you go.

    There are many valid copies of VLK, only the stolen and key generated copies are blacklisted. If it is a key generated pirated copy your PID will have a number greater then 640 in the second series of the PID number, where a OEM copy will have "OEM"

    OEM and VLK volumes of XP will not normally function as upgrade copies but must be installed as a "clean" install.

    OEM volumes of XP look at the BIOs for the information that is required to determine if the install is allowed without validation. This can change over time as sometimes as an OEM that once installed without validation will now give you a 30 day message. If this is the case, call Microsoft and provide them with your system key.

    Even with the correct version pf OS being returned to your computer, if the system was ever "downgraded" say from the factory XP to 2000 or something else, the OEM will usually fail to do an overlay install. You will then need to do a clean install and perhaps also have to call Microsoft for validation.

    I have seen all of this information on the Microsoft websites but if there is any problems with posting here please delete it, I prefer to think of it as, " How to known if your copy of XP is genuine." :)