Official Sony VAIO F Series Owners lounge *PART 2*

No, nobody. How can anybody have bought a computer that was NEW - AFTER April? When it is only the beginning of April now?

Are you from the future? Maybe get back into your time machine and go to June 26. That is when the refresh will be available.

 

How is this "curious"? These are laptop "compatible" screens and not screens manufactured by or for Sony directly.

That is why I found the lcds4less site interesting -- they appear to be selling made for/by Sony equipment (and most of the prices reflect that). Either that or they are engaging in false advertizing (cf. http://www.lcds4less.co.uk/index.shtml where they indicate the brand of the screens in the samples on the page and throughout the Website).

[EDIT: I found a small print disclaimer that they are not affiliated with any of the manufacturers whose logos they use. Thus, this site is like the one linked in the quote -- only with better English.]

In other words, the laptopscreen Website linked in the quote above is clearly selling non-Sony screens that it advertises will be "compatible" with Sony Vaios. Depending on the manufacturer, the prices will vary, and thus a single lamp from one manufacturer may be more expensive than a dual-lamp from another.

"Compatibility" is a distinction with a difference. Whether the difference is a quality difference remains to be seen, literally as well as figuratively.

[EDIT: How interesting that the lower part of the linked laptopscreen Webpage claims that they distribute genuine Sony laptop parts. But they don't claim that up above in the listings. And they don't make it clear which manufacturer in the list there is making which screen. Personally, I would not trust that the screens they sell are the same manufacturer and model as original Sony parts.]

Good luck. We're all stabbing in the dark here, is my impression. (All puns intended....)

 

The lack of keyboard backlighting is across the board in Europe (and when I last checked it, Japan, as well). "Coincidentally", it seems that only in the North American market, where the premium matte RGB screen is NOT available, is the keyboard backlighting available.

LEDs (which increasingly RGB screens are) require wiring that is different from an LCD that is CCFL. I'm not claiming that such LED wiring is incompatible with the installation of LED keyboard backlighting (which only the North American model has). I am saying that Sony has wired the light sensors on the screens for the American model in concert with the backlighting; in the rest of the world (okay, Europe and Japan, at least), the wiring of the light sensors in the screens are not set up in concert with keyboard backlighting.

That should mean something -- exactly what, we do not know, because we don't have both models side by side to examine.

What we do know is that Sony Australia has told an NBR forum member that the parts for the American models are not the same as for the Aussie models and therefore the international warranty is useless because, while valid, it cannot be honored for lack of parts. (I haven't checked, but I'd bet the Aussies get the same things the Europeans do since I believe their supply is from Japan.)

 

Just don't install codec packs, period. Whether W2K, XP, or Win 7, it is just guaranteed to screw up one or more applications. Install particular codecs as needed.

That's one thing.. The other is that the F11 uses a 64-bit operating system, and codecs for Windows itself must be 64-bit. 32 bit codecs only work in 32 bit players and decoders, 64-bit codecs only work in 64 bit players, yet a general install can often replace the 64-bit codec with a 32-bit version and vice versa. (that's why there's both a 32-bit and 64-bit Media Centre in Vista, and, I guess, in Win7, so that formats without 64-bit codecs are still supported..)

For me Windows Media Centre plays Bluray, but that's apparently not the norm. It's because my system and software is designed around HD editing.

Use VLC or GOM player, VLC is less fiddly for correct aspect ratios, but fails to play a few types of file and has not the best seek functionality, GOM will play anything at all, and has good seek times, but requires manual setting of some display aspects. Both of these have their own codecs and will not affect anything else on the system.

 

Take out the 197.16 video display driver you installed via Laptopvideo2go, and put back in the proper Sony-supplied 188 driver. AND read the unification post regarding attempted non-sony Nvidia driver installs.

 

Hi,

I am new to this thread and have read a couple of pages and I have a question. Sorry if this has been asked before (and i am sure it has) but is it worth waiting for a refresh of the sony vaio f to come out? Will it come with a better GPU? This is what has stopped me from buying this laptop. What else will change in the refresh? Im willing to wait if there is going to be significant changes. Also am I correct in thinking that a refresh will be around June time?

Thanks

 

July, optional i9 and maybe i5, and Fermi, with increased availability of the faster 1 gigabyte cards. That's what's known...

 

Thanks for the quick reply, so we still don't know if the refresh will have a better GPU? Would it be likely that there will be a better GPU in the refresh?

 

Will a 2.5" SSD fit the original hard drive bay? I'm still debating whether to go with intel 160G or ocz vetex 120G.

 

i5 - probably
i9(mobile version is not out yet!) + Fermi - very unlikely

I'm sure all of us want the latest tech, but it's a bit unrealistic. Btw, where are you getting this info from?

 

FERMI is better GPU, current GPU is used is 310 and 330, the FERMI is 470 or 480, as far as the model number. I heard it get really hot and coupled with i9...hm,that's a really bad combination for a laptop. They need to redesigned the cooling and that might means a thicker laptop. If you need one right now, just buy it..if you can wait, off course the longer you wait, the better the spec ur getting. If you don't play games, the 310 might be just fine..but I just realized the 330 is a far more capable GPU then 310, so I return my F (310 GPU) and planning to switch it with 330 and 1080P screen beside other reason (the defects - Morse code).

 

I am waiting with bated breath too.... I just got the FedEx overnight tracking number for my screen and hopefully I can have it in the laptop by tomorrow evening.

Hope to give Joe's screen removal instructions and pictures a real whirl then.

 

http://www.lcds4less.com/sharp-laptop-parts.shtml with a toll-free number.

Hmmm.... The plot thickens.

One wonders whether there is one big screen depot in the sky from which all of these companies draw their inventory ;-).

 

The SHARP LCD Screen model (the single CCFL version) of the F-series laptop that Joe posted earlier (after disassembling his laptop screen), is an EXACT match for the model# of a commercial SHARP screen. There is not even a syllable out of place, when it comes to the model# extracted out of the F-series and the model# of the SHARP commercial version.

During today's investigations, I contacted some vendors and what they stated is that seemingly, even though it is a commercial SHARP screen, Sony is the only customer for whom Sharp makes it. Nobody else seemingly uses a 16.4" screen with similar specs......it is mostly either the 15" versions or the 17" versions that most other laptop manufacturers go for. This vendor who did not have it in stock, stated that Sony probably has some stock available with them and to contact them directly (of course I did not reveal to them that Sony charges $700 for the screen ! )

 

i9 is 100% definite, in addition to current offerings. 1 gigabyte cards for Canadians is also definite, whether GT3XX or GT4XX. I'm guessing it will be an underclocked Fermi, just to get DX11 support. The cooling system for the F11 works well, and the i9 is supposedly cooler than the i7-820, so there is NO problem with using a GPU that happens to be warmer than the GT330.

USB3 is possible, as is a change in hardware switch functions. There is NO word on any changes in screen options.

Having said all that, the current F11 is a good system, and there is no guarantee that prices will not go up to support newer features for the July refresh.

One can accept what I just wrote or not, we'll wait until June eh?

 

What do you mean "a commercial screen?" - used in Sharp products? How would it NOT be a commercial screen otherwise? The cooling system is by Panasonic, would you define the cooler as a "commercial" cooler? or not, if it's not used in Panasonic toughbooks?

As have Dell and Toshiba, I've posited that if Sony has trouble with supplies of 16.4" screens, then they may go for a slighty different size on the F-series. I doubt that will happen though.

 

Sorry, what I mean by "commercial" screen was that this is a screen that Sharp makes and sells commercially to anyone and everyone who is interested in buying it. It is not a custom product made exclusively for Sony or any other specific manufacturer.

 

Ah, I probably would have called that a "stock" screen or a generic OEM part.

 

Exactly ! It is just a generic OEM part, that they sell to virtually anyone who is willing to buy it.

Just that if we buy it directly from an aftermarket vendor (who sources it from Sharp), we would be able to get it at 1/3rd the price that Sony will charge for that part.

I asked one of the vendors as to why the Sony single CCFL model costs the same as the dual-CCFL 16.4" Full-HD screen. They stated that there is currently a severe shortage of the single-CCFL model (the Glossy full-HD on the F-series), and hence it is more difficult for them to obtain and hence they charge higher for it, than the dual-CCFL model. I am guessing that the Sony F-series is sucking up the supply of the single-CCFL model.

 

@Roweraay

!!!!!!!!I'm rooting for you to have an issue free screen replacement!!!!!!!

If the results are great and it solves the narrow viewing angle I'll replace mine too!!. Actually, I posted a question mid-March with that exact part number (LQ164M1LA4A) as a replacement for my F screen wondering if that is the exact part number used for the FW590.

Wow...I hope the picture comes out great!!!!

EDIT: Google search with this part number + Sony FW comes up with a number of search results linking the VGN-FW to this screen

http://www.ec21.com/product-details/Sharp-HD-16.4-Inch-2--3917048.html
http://cgi.ebay.ph/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140344170261

 

ı think you have a problem for understanding something. in turkey vaio managers said that, new f series will come in april. because of this ı asked, is there anybody have bought new series. ok? are you understand me?

 

No, I do not understand what you mean by "New Series". To me, a new series would be the new "Z" that came out or the new "E" series. I think you mean new stock of the F series, but I thought you were asking about the refresh.

There was another forum member in here that is from Turkey - Erdal. Erdal had the fan whistle problem, but Sony would not fix it for them.

If Sony Turkey says they got new UNITS, then maybe they did.

 

No new F series in USA and most likely the same thing in Canada. If it's true that they're coming in April, it's not here yet. Are you asking about a refreshed F11 with upgraded parts or current configurations with issues resolved? If it's the latter, it's still a mixed bag as some still get notebooks with morse-code noise etc. (most likely retrieved from old stock)

Have you checked your stores in Turkey?

 

Sorry - Forum is buggy for me.

 

ahah ah a ha hahahahaha hahahaha

SonyStyle appears to have recently updated the F Series stated specs.

Check this crock of **** out:

Battery Type : Standard Capacity Lithium-ion Battery
Estimated Battery Life : Up to 4 hours Standard Capacity Battery
Up to 6 hours Large Capacity Battery

What a Joke!

with this footnote:

"Actual battery life may vary based on product settings, usage patterns and environmental conditions."

yeah, maybe just turned on and sitting there with no wireless and bluetooth enabled, auto dimmed - and most importantly - not processing a damn thing, then it might last 'UP TO' 4 hours.

again,

What a Joke!

UPDATE: that's the stated BS for the ready-to-ship configurations; on the way in to the F Series "take a closer look" web content, it states this:

Estimated Battery Life with Standard Battery9 (included)
Default Settings: Up to 3 hours
Max. Brightness: Up to 3 hours
DVD Playback: Up to 1 hours
Estimated Battery Life with Large Battery9 (sold separately)
Default Settings: Up to 4.5 hours
Max. Brightness: Up to 4.5 hours

ahhah a ha ha ha hahahaha haha hahahaha

My F-book is stripped down and doesn't come close to even doing that...

ahah a ha haha ha ha h ah a ha hahaha hah

Don't get me wrong folks, the F Series is a great desktop replacement - without a doubt! But don't expect worthy travel portability with this bad boy unless your sporting extra batteries and convenient places to plug back into along the journey.

 

On my flight back to school I got my Vaio to last about 3:20 with the screen dimmed, wifi/bluetooth off doing some word processing. This was with a battery that had been completely drained a week before. Maybe they got a new shipment of higher-density batteries? 4 Hours doesn't seem too far-fetched.

Normal use results in about 2 hours of use till I hit 30% and recharge.

I think the "sweet spot" in terms of shelf life for batteries is 42% charge at 0°C. Might be remembering it wrong though. Going below 10% is not recommended.

 

As I've mentioned previously, on the standard battery at 100% charge, I got 3Hrs 15 minutes of surfing etc. until 25% charge using a bluetooth mouse, so that seems reasonable, And 1 hour on Bluray can even be conservative.

 

The only "New F-series" we've heard about anywhere is timed to coincide with the Intel CPU refresh at the end of June. That will be the first major refresh of the F11, but there was a minor production-line update in mid-February.

You were probably being told about a new shipment due in, but they're not new model versions of the F-series in any way, shape, or form.

In Europe you've got less need to worry about any new version of the F11 since you already have a wider range of options including more CPUs and better screens than we lowly North Americans.

Anyway if something is "due to happen" in April or June or whenever, you can bet your sweet Bippy that it won't be at the BEGINNING of that month.

 

There's been no major breakthroughs on Li-Ion or Li-Poly battery technology within the last few years so the idea of higher density batteries doesn't fly. My F is a stripped down, 4GB mem, 310 graphics, 1600x900, 320 GB, no KB backlighting bottom feeder - and with dimming fully engaged and power saving evoked, I'm lucky to get 2 hours on messing with word dox or spreadsheets. At the end of those 2 hours, battery gauge shows roughly 10% to-go.

Just the fact that they have two sets of specs on the same product website that don't agree tells me the marketing monkeys are skew'n (or is that screw'n) with the shopping public.

 

Yes, thank you sooooo much for getting this ball rolling.

If this is the same screen part number for the FW590 and the F11, then the idea that the wiring is different on the F (likely due to the link-up with a keyboard backlight sensor) is indirectly supported. Otherwise, unless it's a simple bad batch issue, the dramatically different performance makes no sense.

[EDIT: I have been unable to find FW5 series affiliated with that screen number (or any number) and that part number is not the part number used on the FW490, remember? So, do we know which FW's those sites are claiming the screen is "compatible" with?]

As for part numbers, uh, that's how they "categorize" the screens. Most of these sites are clear in saying that is simply a categorization number assigned by the original manufacturer and that it is "compatible" with such and such a Vaio model (BTW the broken English on that supposedly Canadian Website raises my eyebrows, as well). Not clear who is making these screens until roweraay actually sees the part. And even then -- a sticker is cheap.

There are a million knock-offs of designer women's purses and men's ties. Do you really believe the words "Pierre Cardin" wherever you see them? Whether at Target or Tiffany's? ;-)

 

I guess you've all seen this Jan 30th 2009 post from the FW thread?

"Anyways, the LCD screen is a SHARP in case anyone is wondering.
It's a SHARP LQ164M1LA4A WXGA++ 1920 x 1080 screen."
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4463204&postcount=2820

 

The notion that the keyboard backlight has something to do with the LCD backlight is kinda silly, as I've been outside of Windows a lot on the F series, I can tell you with authority that the keyboard backlight is not controlled by the sensor directly, that's only done by software.

In other words, the sensor unit is a software-controlled device, that the LCD and keyboard drivers are able to use in Windows. And only Windows, as far as I know (this is Sony's fault).

If you're not in Windows, the keyboard backlight comes on anytime you push a button on the keyboard. Don't believe me? Try it in the BIOS, and if that doesn't settle you try it on a Linux LiveCD or something, it'll work

Sadly, it turns off after about 30 seconds.

That, and you can have the keyboard backlight turn on without auto control of the LCD backlight, etc.

The most likely reason for the standard backlight, is in the US they are seen as a big competitor with Apple, a company that puts backlit keyboards on everything except the MacBook and their desktops. The same holds true for Dell, where many of their machines are offered with backlit keyboards.

Those brands are nowhere near as popular in other countries, so they don't bother making it a standard option since they don't need to.

I believe the warranty bit is BS. So far, the F11Z1Es I've seen pictures of look pretty much identical to our F115FMs and whatever else, minus the rubber palm rest option and the slightly nicer LCD.

I don't think they are using LED modules, and if they did it probably wouldn't be as hard a chore as you'd think to swap in an LED module, especially if you sold the parts on fleabay in the end.

One last point that I want to use to solidify my point: The keyboard backlight is most likely, very likely LED powered (and also very likely has fiber optics involved).

In that case an LED screen would be simpler

 

Something is wrong in your power profile or settings for battery optimization or you have some external devices connected. Do you disable anti virus if disconnected for the web, have Media Gallery scanning your folders, etc? You can use Autoruns to easily create and save a startup profile when on battery.

I get 3:07 not even fully battery optimized with more memory & more GPU: 6GB & GT 330M 1GB vs. your 4GB & GT 310M 512MB. My GPU has also much more pixels to handle w/ 1080p (1920*1080= 2073600 pixels) vs. 900p. (1600*900= 1440000).

"... Just the fact that they have two sets of specs on the same product website that don't agree" - Maybe you did not notice that for the 3h specs they say: "Default Settings: Up to 3 hours". They do not specify what are the custom settings & tasks they used to get to up to 4 hours.

All notebook manufacturers do the same in their specs sheet & marketing material. My motorcycle can get up to x KM/liter but since I drive like a maniac YMMV.

 

In January 2009, the FW2 series was the emerging FW. I checked the Sony parts site, and the screen part number above is one of two equally priced screens for the FW390 and the cheaper of the two screens for the Sony FW490, at $349 (cf. https://servicesales.sel.sony.com/e...xDFcRE&modelNum=VGNFW490&searchText=VGNFW490).


Okay, so if the same part number from the manufacturer is the same screen, why does Sony itself charge twice as much for it if you say you have an F instead of an FW2, 3, or 4? (Again, I cannot get the Sony sites to divulge anything about an FW5 series notebook.) Stumped, right? -- Just order by Sony part number and don't tell Sony what you want it for!

And, yes, the keyboard backlight on the North American F is LED. And the European sites were already touting LED screens on the FW5 series. And the only matte screens Sony has produced on Vaios (like the Z) have been LED. So it isn't a stretch that the European premium RGB would be an LED, and matte.

And the European sites claim that the main screen backlight itself has the light sensor to adjust itself to the environment.

As for wiring, I never claimed to have had a job in hardware tech support ;-).

P.S. Yes, it was http://www.screentekinc.com/ that seems to tell you clearly which manufacturer makes each screen it is selling. That's the site I had been most impressed with for its general info (even has a video of how to change a screen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_FtMr_40-w) but I hadn't been able to find it again!

Oh, it has a similar disclaimer, of course. So all we're really doing is admiring Web design while all the screens are from that screen depot in the sky....

 

Hey Joe,

Kindly list out what you think could be attached - as external or otherwise - connected devices that would be drawing enough battery power to kill an hours worth of run-time, I'm eagerly awaiting your experienced point of view. FYI, HD indexing is disabled, no media scanning what-so-ever (as I don't use that bloatware nor do I install it), auto defrag in Win7 disabled, you name it. This F rig is only a week old and I've not installed any anti-virus. The only net action I've done thus far was to do Windows Updates. Some of us are experienced computer geeks and I'm telling you, I've got my bottom feeder in crawl mode. Weak battery off the mfg floor, more likely the culprit me thinks. Oh, and just in case it wasn't clear, I'm using the standard battery.

And regardless of what "all notebook manufacturers" do in spec sheets, 3 hours might be somewhat believable but the 4 hour/6 hour is total BS for a notebook comprised of this power hungry hardware.

 

Filter - Joe is trying to help. With a gt 330m, even I am getting 2+ hours consistently with normal usage (brightness at about 60%, wifi on, taking notes, surfing the web, working on powerpoint docs). With the brightness down and everything turned off, I get well over 3 hours. It seems like you got a unit with a battery that was on the shelf for a while - it happens. Since they raised the bar to 4 hours now, I guess you could complain and say that you are only getting 2 hours of life out of the machine at the lowest settings - even though the machine is only a week old.

Have you been draining the battery much? A complete drain to 0% cuts battery life on li-poly batteries dramatically, but you probably already knew that.

 

"...list out what you think could be attached - as external or otherwise - connected devices that would be drawing enough battery power..."- Err.. anything powered by the laptop like an external pocket HDD via USB or Power Over eSATA, ext speakers, laser mouse, ExpressCard, non self powered hub, etc. and several on-board devices like wifi, Bluetooth radio, etc.

Could you tell me your battery capacity when charged @ 100% with the free, small & portable SIW 2010 or an other utility?



Also in SIW > Battery > you can see your power consumption & then unplug the F & hit Refresh to see your actual F battery Discharge Rate. What is really cool is that you can disable stuff & see the impact on your battery Discharge Rate. A great battery life optimization tool. Note: every time you tweak your settings/programs/devices you must hit the Refresh icon on top: white arrow in blue dot.



What is your F's Discharge Rate when running on battery?

BTW, check the Battery Policy tab in SIW for a view of all your power management plans including the active one. A ton of info in one panel instead of all the clicks needed in Vaio_Care or Win 7 > Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Power Options.

Did you ever calibrated your F battery? Or run " powercfg -energy" CMD?

If not needing it, do you disable Bluetooth, wifi, wifihelper, ODD, PCI, etc? You can see some "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power" examples here.



What are your Logon (startup) programs listed in Autoruns?



What is your current power plan: Balanced, Power Saver, Customized, etc? Check in: > Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Power Options

I'm also using the standard battery.

 

yes, they are identical sizes. I purchased the 160GB Intel X25m G2 or whatever it was.

Awesomeness.

 

Looks like SonyStyle UK is no longer offering the Matte screen as a CTO option for the F11. And BD writer is free but BD player will cost 50 more

 

in turkey there is no f series in shops. everybody is waiting. I understand from your note that, before june there is no new f series, it can be new shipment???

 

This UK preconfig has a Premium matte display: http://www.sony.co.uk/product/vn-f-series/vpcf11s1e-b

I was trying to write to UK support to get the LCD's display # but you need to be an owner & have a serial #.

I think you are mistaken, Premium means matte, no?

"BD writer is free but BD player will cost 50 more" - it's a promotion. Normally writer would cost 100 & reader still cost 50. Same thing on Dell_when configuring with specials.

 

I think that still is the Matte screen, they just never described it as such, only as VAIO Display Premium HD1080.

 

I see that you have a matte EU. Could you write or call your Sony_support to ask for the Sony_LCD part # & if possible the brand & model number of your display? Many US 1080p owners are looking for that info, including I.

 

You're probably right. But I wonder why the description no longer says "100% Adobe RGB" like it used to a couple of weeks ago. Or is what they now mean by "Premium HD1080"?

 

I understand it's a promotion. But it just seems odd -- why not offer the BD reader for free if the other two options are? Or do they have a stockpile that they're trying to get rid off?

 

I've just ordered a CTO from Sony UK after many months of research (dithering) . Asked the sony style guy about the 100% Adobe RBG and the matte display. He didn't know but after checking with someone in the Vaio team, he came back with a vague statement along the lines of:
"
Sometimes the screen is glossy, sometimes matte.
They also put anti glare on it which makes it look glossy.
He wasn't sure, it might be the luck of the draw."

I then asked if he'd used the F11Z as a reference since that's the closest in terms of spec and he had. Also added that the cto's were built in Japan (implying that they might not actually know what went in)

In summary, I don't think they've got a clue. Full marks for being polite and patient though. No discount either.

Interesting point on the warranty, adding RAM wouldn't void the warranty but changing the hard drive would, as also taking out some of the installed s/w. He recommended taking a backup dvd before doing anything (as other folks have pointed out previously).

Fingers crossed.

ps: thank you for all the posts and information here..will find out the model number of the screen once it arrives and if it is indeed matte.

 

Hi all! I need a big help, i did a mess. I didn't have anymore the recovery partition and i didn't the recovery cd so now i don't know how to install fn keys in windows 7 ultimate, please help!!!

 

Still waiting for my new screen to get to me and seemingly, it is on a FedEx truck, out for delivery. I have already taken out the old screen, using the excellent instructions that Joe had posted earlier and the ensemble is now awaiting the fitment of the new screen. One thing I can state is that these plastic tabs that hold the screen in place are not designed to be taken apart more than a couple of times. Do it too frequently and they will just not last.

I verified that my 1080P screen part# matches what Joe had posted earlier from his unit - SHARP LQ164M1D4C.

Cannot wait for the new 2-CCFL screen to get to me.

 

I did just this todaywhen I spoke to Sony about my current repair. They didn't have the answers and said someone would call me back 'within 48hrs' regarding these questions. I doubt anyone will.

 

Europe always had three screens available: the regular 1600x900 (not clear if it's one or two CCFL or LED), the FullHD at the higher resolution and the Premium FullHD at the higher resolution with RGB.

If you look at this page, you'll see a logo for "scratch-resistant" and that's because what is called in the States Duraview is the Sony matte screen: http://www.sony.co.uk/product/vn-f-series/tab/overview

Now, if you go to the customisable laptops page for the F ( https://www.sonystyle.co.uk/SonyStyle/VAIO-Laptop-PCs/F-Series-16-4?config=x&csint=14003207) and click on the left choice for the F(V) Series, you get a choice of i3 and i5 processors (yes, you read that correctly) and the 1600x900 screen or the regular FullHD screen at the higher resolution.

Click on the right configure button for the F(X) model and you get the Premium FullHD screen option.

Now let's go to Sony Japan's customisable page for the full low-down on everything -- and on the RGB and the Premium HD screen: http://translate.googleusercontent....le.com&usg=ALkJrhjoMZ2D2LSDaqkH78iz-c_K7G-Kpg (where anti-reflective low probably means matte -- perhaps a speaker of Japanese can look at the original).

And there it is: Adobe RGB 100% coverage.

Here's the full-line-up page where you can see the processors and the second FullHD screen in the retail models list: http://translate.googleusercontent....le.com&usg=ALkJrhhoTvVwrETvohCFdWIkFqOZu0AnGQ

Okay? The only thing that is not clear is why they use the word "coverage" after Adobe RGB. Well, let's hope for more info from non-North American market NBR forum members.