Official Sony Vaio F22 2D Owners Lounge

guys,
new birdy here on vaio f .
been long time user of vaio fz.
now that i bought one,while waiting for its delivery,
may i request you all to suggest me memory upgrade of 4gb ram.
I want to make it total 8 GB.
thanks.

here is my config.
1) Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM quad-core processor (2.20GHz / 3.10GHz with Turbo Boost)
2) CD/DVD player / burner
3) 4GB (4GBx1) DDR3-SDRAM-1333
4) 640GB (7200rpm) hard drive
5) Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Black
6) 16.4" 2D Full HD LCD display (1920x1080) with LED backlight
Sony® Imagination Studio™ Multimedia Edition
7) NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M (512MB) dedicated graphics

any upgrades you suggest?
i dont game much so except gpu,its all fine according to me but i need your suggestions.
those 50 usd gpu upgrade dollars can go in to ssd upgrade for far better usability.
do suggest RAM and SSD for this.

 

... Yes , but then came out this beauty called ASUS N75SF .
The truth is that it is not just the features of this ASUS N75 over the features of Sony Vaio F23 ( JR.com: Sony VAIO VPCF234FX/B 16.4" Notebook PC - Black in PC Notebook Computers) , but there is also Sony's support that has disappointed me big time when I addressed to them regarding my faulty 8400 GPU on my VCN-AR520E laptop . They treated me like trash , sent me from one support representative to an other , time after time , till they told me in the end that they don't support this problem on my model .
So Sony , you just lost one customer because your impertinence .

Now , lets see what the ASUS N75SF ( JR.com: ASUS N75SF-DH71 17.3" Notebook PC - Black in PC Notebook Computers) priced at $1288 over the Sony's F23 priced at $1200 :
- Superb full hd display . I know that you all like Sony's display manufactured by ChiMei . I like it too . But if you want to see something that looks better than this Sony display , look at ASUS N75 display and you'll see the best display in its class . Yes , it is GLOSSY ( and I am a Matt fan) and only comparing it with Sony's Matt display you'll understand how wrong is to have a Matt display for a desktop replacement .
- 2 hard drives of 500G each (ASUS) , 7200 rpm compared with just one 500G 5400 rpm hard drive (Sony) .
-17.3 inch display (ASUS) over 16.4 inch display ( Sony ) . It fits much better the FHD native resolution .
- 8G RAM (ASUS) over 6G RAM (Sony )
- BLU-RAY Burner (ASUS) over DVD-CD burner (Sony)
- Awesome sound , including an external Sub (Asus) over average sound quality ( Sony ) .
- Not a Sony support (Asus ) over the worst support possible (Sony)
- 4X USB ports (Asus) over only 3 X USB ports (Sony)
- NVIDIA 555GT video card (Asus) over NVIDIA 540GT video card (Sony)
- 2G dedicated video RAM (Asus) over 1G dedicated video RAM (Sony)
- Switchable HD3000 video card (ASUS) over not accessible or switchable HD3000 card (Sony) .

... And the price is almost the same , just a $80 difference between the two ...

 

Hey guys,

I have now sorta read thru this whole forum. I think that i have found the laptop for me which should be a Sony F-Series

now im just curious about my model since it didnt pop up here.

Its the F23EFX with a Ci7 2.2GHz 4gigs of ram a 500GB at 7200RPM the GT540M (1GB) and a normal DVD-Drive

Another one which might be possible to is a F221 FD/B (which i didnt see here either....)
it comes with a Ci5 2410 with 3MB cache 6GB RAM a 640GB at 5400RPM again the same dedicated graphics a blu ray drive

now my questions are

have you ever heard of these before?
if not i gues its not thaaaaat bad since they both got the nice FHD screen

only thing i would like to know should i take the option with 4Gb ram or the 6GBs ??

I rly cant decide since from what i read from the benchmarks is that the i7 is so much stronger
but in which cases would i rly recognize the extra power and is there a big difference between 4Gb and 6Gb bcuz the price is no matter since they both almost cost the same

I rly need the advice... if possible today...(i dont wanna push anythig but the thing is i would go oout to buy it tomorow.... so i just hope to get it before then) but it will be late afternoon here soo ...
i am GMT +2.30h

 

dont buy it
i mean it this laptop rly isnt worth its money
it might look like a nice thing to buy and spec wise it might be better than the sony
but tbh the screen wasnt so spectacular imo aaaand

the biggest of its flaws is its keyboard
its awful!!

if tried it out here in a store and as on another asus model i couldnt tipe on it at all!! i mean you could ofc but tehre is no way that youd tipe fast on it in any way

even the Acer Aspier One got a better keyboard....
so that would be a killer IMO cuz i rly need a very good keyboard.. the touchpad was OK...

 

Hi Guys ,
may be you can help me.
I'm a professional chess player and also a vivid fan of sony vaio f series for it's unique screen. but I dont need 3d . As far as i see , the strongest cpu in this category is Core i7- 2860 QM . and also i need SSD along with.
So my question is wich f model is exactly suitable for me ?

2- my other concern is about " power break" issue since i hear it's just like a break ! Do you carry this break to (for i.e your office) to be plugged in?

Thanks in advance

 

Nearly every Asus I've tried, I hate the keyboard. That brand does a lot of things right, but keyboards are NOT one of them. Sole exception is the G74. I love the keyboard on my Vaio F2390X. Since I type a lot, that really matters to me.

Also, I'm not surprised to hear that the quality of the N75's screen isn't as good as the F23's. The F23 really does have about the most gorgeous screen you can get on a consumer laptop.

Sony has never been a leader on specs-for-the-dollar. If that's what you care about, Asus generally is a good bet. But Sony nailed the intangibles (great screen quality, great keyboard, etc) on the F23.

 

You mean "Brick." It's big supply, to handle the demands of a multicore i7.

 

Unless you know you need a better CPU than the i7-2670QM for some sort of work task, I'd stick with the 2670QM. You won't notice a difference in day-to-day tasks; the 2670QM is already blisteringly fast. Upgrades beyond it just aren't worth the money unless you work in a specialized industry that does highly-CPU-intensive work.

The power brick (not break) is bulky. I've got it resting on a DVD case for scale if you watch the video review in my sig. However, the entire laptop is bulky, so it's not like it's adding an element of bulk to an otherwise thin-and-light laptop. I bought a messenger case from Sony, and both the laptop and the power brick fit in it just fine. I carry it with me to work everyday.

Heather Grey Laptop Bag | VAIO® Messenger Case | VGP-AMB13 | Sony USA

 

Yeah
the f23s and 22s keyboards are awesome and i have to tipe allot 2 so that was the first criteria for me to look upon.. the specs could be killer good SLI nvidia or whatever for less then 1500.. but i wouldnt buy it unless the keyboard is good 2 cuz i couldnt live with an external one

oh and btw
if everything goes well ill go and buy my model 2day... any suggestions on how to adjust the screen?

 

thanks for your great helps.

If core i7 - 2670 QM is so strong and the diffrence is so unnoticable , then why a lot of people in this forum and others seek more superior models ? are all of them involved in a seriouse specialized industrial use ??!

Another surprise is the larg gap between price tag of them ! for i.e in most sites the price of base model of F237 (equipped with 2860 QM ) is about 4000 us dollars. while the price tag for most 2670 QM models are nearly the half ! 3d aside , what makes such a big diffrence if the CPUs are so close ??!!

In chess , there's a Fritz benchmark and as far as I see there's a meanningful gap between 2670 and 2860 QM. ( in terms of X million calculation/position / per second ).

and what about SSD ? which makes a huge diffrence in chess calculation factor and handling Mega and Tera chess databases.

let's be clear.

what is the strongest Non 3D model in F seies ?

 

Some people want "the best" and buy more than they need. This is true in cars, this is true in computers. Just because others have bought a more powerful CPU than is really useful for day-to-day tasks and/or gaming, doesn't mean you should too. The 2670QM is great, and the CPU upgrades are very expensive.

Upgrading from HDD to SSD would make a HUGE performance improvement. For most tasks, the HDD is the bottleneck. However, it all depends on how much space you need. I need a lot of drive space, so I stuck with HDD. If you can live with 128 GB or whatever, SSD is the single best improvement you could make.

 

Com'on guys ... You buy a $1300 desktop replacement and what you have to say is that the keyboard is awesome ? If you type a lot , you can buy also an awesome $279 netbook and you'll be able to type on a such AWESOME keyboard , as much as you want , for $1000 less .

And what is so good in having a GORGEOUS , top-of-the-class Chimei ( cheap) display on Sony if Sony is sending you to buy an other notebook if you have one of their GPU failure notebooks series , just an year after your purchase ?
And what is so good in using this AWESOME , best-of-the-best Sony display if Sony does not allows you to update the video driver and to continue to enjoy the technology improvements in video performance on a such AWESOME display ?
How does it feel that 6 months after you buy the AWESOMENESS Gorgeous Sony notebook with its supersonic keyboard and super duper display , for $1300 , and you try to download a video driver from NVidia's site and suddenly see this "*note for Sony Vaio users" that tells you in short " please contact Sony's support for the must updated drives but you cannot download from NVidia" and when you contact the Sony support all that they are telling you is how wrong is for you to update their old drivers because new drivers are not supported .

In an -ALL-IN-ONE notebook , the "ALL" is very important . If you want to pay for "ALL" but to get "much less" then , Sony is a great company to go with in the notebooks area . But if you want to have "almost ALL" for a notebook , and to enjoy the experience of having an advanced notebook , then the market has great offers for you , but Sony is not at this place .

 

You actually can update your drivers through Nvidia with this model..

 

Of course that you can for now ... till the moment you can't and the (" * note : Sony Vaio devices are not supported anymore " appears) .
This is what happened with my old VGN-AR520E . Was possible to upgrade for 6 months from NVidia's site ... Once Sony assumed that all the potential buyers already bought the product , then don't wanted to hear about them and started to reduce all the maintenance costs , including canceling every 3'rd party agreement with drivers vendors .
This is why the most known Sony VGN-AR520 vendor drive is 3 years old .

Once you bought their AWESOMENESS display and super duper fancy keyboard and you're in their pocket together with the absurd cost of money for the technology you got , they give a S**T on the customers .
Why they should care about their customer overall satisfaction if they are already satisfied about customer's satisfaction on features like keyboard and display after they convince them with these toy features that it is a good product .

Why it is not surprising to see that between the hundreds of the pages related to this product , most of the users are writing and complimenting about features of display or keyboard ? What about performance and maintenance ? I assume that old Sony Vaio owners already know what I'm talking about and the new ones will soon know also ...

 

Well nevertheless

I got my model now!
there is so much to adjust and software to install and yeah... the screen blew me right off
but to this later a lil more
oh and i am frkn amazed by its power and speed!

even in silent mode i had no problems installing anything blazing fast!
and gaming in silent mode also no prob, only the windows preset modes "balanced" and "power saver" make a HUGE difference in performance.. thats what i experienced until now, if it is set to power saver then you shouldnt try to play but its very nice for surfing the net etc.

So i sorta got ACID Music Studio 8 on it(which i believe to be non freeware) and SoundForge Audio Studio and which i know not to be freeware

Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum which i rly apreciate since i like to play around with movies, and i also tried to render some random movie in HD qualy .. well the fan, for some breif moments it took i felt like sitting in an airplane but when it was done i simply set it back to silent mode and after some secs it turned down slowly and into almsost unhearable.... but it was dead quiet in my room, no other sounds so here in the living room you cant hear it

As i`f alrdy known the keyboard is amazing and very comfortable to tipe on.
Yeah screenwise,,,, very nice
mate finish very good view angles but still idk which one it is ... so where again can i look for the screen model number? id rly like to know which one it is even though iw ouldnt be dissapointed if it was the PLUS screen cuz if so then it still looks very very amazing cuz ive rly never seen sth like this on a laptop... and it EASILY outruns the MBP screen wich is IMO a piece of rubbish since you dont see anything on it when you are in a brighter environment or a darker so you sort of need modest light enivronment....

so the sound rly isnt so spectacular, activted the dolby thing and yeah it dows sound alot better fuller and more brilliant, but the depths are rly on the down side, but thats with almosst all laptops
only very few give you a nice sound experince like the DELL XPS(not the z) or the Lenovo Y570
well what else to say, some of the vaio featured are prty nice
others i uninstalled
oh and i have a lil problem with IE9 i cant uninstall it....-.- i am a mozilla user and i alrdy downloaded it installed everything but i cant manage to get rid of it... any1 help on that one?
oh and about the RAM i boosted it 2 6GB of RAM it was VERY easy but they didnt have the faster clocked ones here...
So these are my Specs:

i7 2670QM 2.2GHz
GT 540M
6GB RAM
ofc FHD
500GB @7200RPM (its very silent i dun hear it at anytime)
DVD-RW
and the usual connections

and the Model stuff :

VPCF23EFX

teeehee

 

Glad you love it, Yozokura. Despite some trolls infecting this thread, it's a solid, well-rounded laptop that's a pleasure to live with.

By the way, everyone, I did a test today during a client meeting. With power settings set to balanced, screen at 30% brightness, wifi switched off, and continually typing, I achieved just over five hours of battery life. Pretty darned nice for a 16.4" without switchable graphics. The well-roundedness of this machine continues to blow me away.

 

Yozakura ,

is your model 3D? or 2D?
what's the advantages over F 22 model ?
and finally how much it cost ?

 

Err what's with the trolls here suddenly

@Yokozura

Yours is the Premium Display

@aidin

F23 adds refreshed CPU mainly over F22 models (i7 2670QM,i7-2760QM and i7-2860QM) and some new software plus 30 mins better battery life.

 

well it cost 920€ and i think it is the 2D model since it didnt come with 3D shutter glasses
and i have tbh honest... i dont know what the differences are thats why i actly asked here cuz here youd find the pross about these laptops

looks like he just answerd your questiion

and thanks allot!!

im rly so frkn happy about this!!... damn this is so nice!!

 

How can one recognize and be confiedent that his desired model have Premium Display before buying ?

 

maybe ask the dealer if u are in a shop

online i srsly dunno

 

No magic tricks unfortunately but you can get an idea by checking if the screen is -

a) Glossy or Matte. The Premium screen is matte.
b) How good the viewing angles are. The Premium model has better viewing angles than an average laptop. Whereas the plus is average.
c) How good the colors, black levels and brightness are. Premium screen has punchy colors, deep blacks and is very bright. The plus screen has greyish blacks and washed out colors.

 

oh another thing
if you buy directly from Sony online then u can choose which display you want

 

Don't see the point of having a Matt display on a fixed desktop replacement . Only if the customer wishes to use the notebook on his pool side or on the sea .
The Matt displays are opaque and are not delivering the whole colors range . Put side by side a glossy display and a Matt display and you'll see that watching movies or pictures on the Matt display is a pain .

 

I use mine in routinely in client meetings, depositions, and various other office settings with all manner of overhead lighting. (I use a 16.4" machine for this instead of the stereotypical 13" machine because I work with two full pages open at once). I don't get annoying reflections like I did with a glossy-screened MBP. You seriously don't see any value in avoiding reflections from overhead lighting?

 

Most of the glossy screens are also anti-glare and with it you won't get any reflections .
And don't forget that the notebook's display is flexible . You can set it easily to a preferred position , anytime , anywhere for the best viewing experience .

I really don't understand also why a such reputed and big company like Sony is , prefers that its notebook's displays will be produced by the cheapest display company in the world - Chimei .
And if it already adopted the cheapest display in the world , Chimei , why their notebooks are so expensive for what they put on the box ?
A I7 processor with 4G of RAM , a medium-low performance video card like nvidia 540 is with only 1G VRAM of memory , with just 500G hard drive and only a old fashioned DVD-CD combo , all these is sold by the competitors for 40% less .

I really don't understand from the point of view of someone who cares what I got for the money I pay , how do you accept a such deal .All these without even mentioning their bad support after the product is purchased .

 

Haters gonna hate. If you don't want a Sony, you're free to buy something else.

All ratings below are from notebookcheck.net, specifically, for display quality. If you're familiar with how rigorous notebookcheck.net's testing is, then I don't need to tell you how impressive these scores are.

Vaio SE: 94%
Vaio F2 (3D): 90%
Vaio F2 (2D): 90%
Vaio Z2: 88%

 

most of the losy screens come are as good in preventing refelctions as mate ones?

roflmao ur funny

and about the position.. thats not always true anyways
you dont always have the opputunity to just change the playce your working at
besides
have you seen the screen before even judging about it?
srsly...-.-do you need more than 500Gigs on the go? if you use it as desktop only then u can buy very cheap memory so thats not a point either

hey go with a MBP and dont even get a possibility to connect a beamer or sth like that out of the box
oh and you wanted 3.0? sorryy forget itpay for it....
and for the buck you get a very nice laptop
go for the cheaper ones with oh soooo much better configs

but dont expect good build qualy nor such an amazing keyboard to which you shouldnt even think about comparing it to a MBP cuz that one rly sucks IMO..

and the other laptops keyboards.. the only ones that provide nice keyboards as well are DLL in their XPS and Lenovo wich both again have similar prices comapre to this sony laptop
oh and talkin about value
the XPS series are lot more expensive for the same specs (full HD ec)
hey cool lets get a HP
yeah and then we thow it in the rubbish after a year or so cuz it overheats all the time... gr8!
nah man
if you dont want compromises on anything like screen keyboard build qualy etc ... dont go for those oh so much less expensive....

 

Dude , where did you took these marks from ?
I see 2 reviews of notebookcheck.net on the F23 and the both not so good :
Sony Vaio VPC-F23BFX/B - Notebookcheck.net External Reviews
Sony Vaio VPC-F236FM/B - Notebookcheck.net External Reviews
a 70 mark is not so good ...

And I see also the same price range ASUS N75 with a very good review ( mark 88.6% )here :
Asus N75SF Series - Notebookcheck.net External Reviews

 

i dun get it
why do you even discuss this?
ur not going to buy the sony anways..

so i got another question...
can any1 pls tell me how to get rid of IE11?!
i rly dun want it and its sorta running tasks in the background using up my RAM without even being opend...
i looked a thousand times in the programms list but its not listed there....

 

You're right . I made my point and there is no point in continuing with it . Everyone if free to choose what do with his own money .

Regarding the IE , unfortunately you cannot remove it . IE is the one in charge with your desktop and other parts of your PC in charge with its stability .
So my advice is , no mater what browser you prefer or you're going to use , just don't deal with IE if you don't want to decrease your computer stability .
Leave it and forget it there .
Good luck !

 

hmpf...-.-
k
thanks...

 

"External reviews" are NOT NBC reviews, but instead a summaries of other ratings other reviewers from all over the internet have given. It's basically useless because you're not comparing reviews from the same reviewers with the same criteria. In NBC's search engine, select the brand to bring up the detailed search options, then select notebookcheck.net reviews ONLY.

The percentages I gave were for the display itself, not the overall machine, since you were claiming Sony had the worst screens on the market.

The Asus N75SF got an 84% in display quality from NBC, as compared to the Vaio F2's 90: Review Asus N75SF Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

The Vaio F22 (basically the same as the current F23 2D) also scored higher than the N75SF in terms of keyboard quality (89 versus 74), weight (70 versus 61), and battery (80 versus 73). On the other hand, the N75 ran cooler and quieter and had better gaming performance. Otherwise they were pretty comparable, and got the same overall score (83).

The F23 has the same screen as the F21 (if the F23 is 3D enabled) or the F22 (if it is not). It's a mid-model update of the F21/F22. So look to the F21/F22 reviews, found here:

Review Sony Vaio VPC-F21Z1E/BI 3D Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

And here:

Review Sony Vaio VPC-F22S1E/B (FHD) Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

Here's the Vaio Z2:

Review Sony Vaio VPC-Z21Q9E/B Subnotebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

Here's the Vaio SE:

Review Sony Vaio VPC-SE1Z9E/B Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

 

Those are just one or two PERSONAL non-comparative reviews. Often a person will post his comments mainly because he's annoyed about something. PROFESSIONAL, comparative, reviews give very high marks overall to the F22/23.

 

okay i rly have a problem here.... and i dont know why but i jst started WOW and i anted to put the graphics to ULTRA
but!
i see that i cant put the shadow quality beyond "low" it says i need a shader model 3 capable graphics card...
for liquid detail and ground clutter its the same...
for sunshafts it says that it is unsupported for graphic related reasons....

srsly?!?!!? i am rly confused
idk but in any review i read that it is possible to play wow with this graphic card on ultra without any problems!...

any1 got an idea?

 

I do believe this may be an issue with the OEM driver, try the driver from Nvidia. But first try toggling PhysX enabled/disabled. Also this laptop doesn't have alternate onboard graphics,.. but look for a bogus Optimus setting.

 

A bad news !
as I said I'm a professional chess player and for deep analysis I basically need to use Hyperthreading and Turbo boost mood for long periods of time .

I read the whole of this thread and concluded that Loud Fan Noise is a main problem with these models (F 22 and F23) especialy in turbo boost mood !
What a bad news....!
What can I do ? please help...

 

i use it in balanced mode basicly

and its never louder than the ambient noise around me (tv talking etc) even while rendering a vid in vegas for ex

and baut the drivers

ill try that and alrdy dl the driver from nvidia if it wont work out with the tips u gave me
thanks!

edit: physX didnt change anything
ill just install the nvidia driver since i think my OEM pre installed one is prty outdated... its 260 sth and the new driver is 285 or so...

 

I think that this problem come from the fact that Sony is supplying this series with only 1G of VRAM and because of that the Nvidia 540 GPU has to work harder , it became hotter and the fan should work much harder to cool the GPU .

Honestly, I don't know what is in the head of Sony's engineers who developed this series , thinking that 1G VRAM would be enough to maintain a native Full HD 1920X1080 resolution with a such limited and primitive GPU over a 16.4 inch display that is a larger screen display than the standard 15.6 inch .

The only solution that I think about is to decrease the resolution from the native one to the following step down ( should be 1600X900) and probably this way the fan will have to work slower for this lower resolution and the noise will be less louder or will disapear at all .
Worth a try .

 

do i have to uninstall the previous driver?
or can i just start installing the new onelike with ati ones?

oh and about the graka thats not true at all

the gpu doesnt run hot at all

the fan speeds up and down depending on cou load

 

Yozakura ,

for God's sake write something without typo ! This is a public forum , not a chat room !

2- any one has any info about a solution for me.... Pl ...help

What's the point of buying a 3.2 kg machine without the ability of working with it in turbo boost mood because of it's annoying cooler noise?!

 

As i have said,
it depends on what you find to be annoying, to me it isnt since i dont hear it at any time
oh and btw
its turbo mode
not mood i rly dont think that a processor has a certain mood in which he is at certain times....

 

I guess it all depends on what you consider "loud." I can assure you that Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Mass Effect 2, Starcraft 2, and The Witcher 2 tax the machine more than chess does, and while the fan is audible, I don't consider it bothersome at all. And yes, I have it set to high performance, not balanced. Like tire noise while rolling down a highway at a constant speed, if you stop to think about it, you can hear it, but when you're just concentrating on driving (or gaming), your brain generally tunes it out.

 

There's more to life than gaming, and this isn't a gaming-first machine. Just because the machine can't run new games at 1080p screen doesn't mean the machine shouldn't have 1080p resolution. I use (and appreciate) the 1080p resolution for office productivity work, looking at photos, watching movies, etc. I would NOT want 900p for any of these tasks. When I game, I game at 720p, but for EVERYTHING else I do, I use and appreciate 1080p. Works just fine.

 

This is not like that ... As you can see here , according to Sony themselves "The VAIO® F series laptop is outfitted with an arsenal of features that are fueled for gaming "

I agree completely with you when you write that with a such bunch of low features , this notebook is much more , or much , much , much more oriented on office productivity . The question is why Sony make such statements as the one above ,misleading the buyers that are clearly understand from a such statement that this Sony outfitted with an arsenal of features ( yeah , right ... arsenal of features my A** if you call an awesome keyboard as feature ) is fueled for Gaming ( yeah , right again , 540 GPU with 1G VRAM is outfitted for gaming - my a** again ) .
Not only that , in order to make you believe that it has an arsenal of features , they are supplying you as bundle also the Betelfield3 game , that will probably make your notebook fan sound like a race car engine , in the case it will be able to be run the game on a such machine .

I think that we are living in a time when you have to choose the product you need wisely and stop to be fulled by slogans without any covers in reality from the different brands .
And between us , if you need just an office productivity oriented notebook, you're not going to buy a $1300 Sony notebook .

 

Okay, this is getting stupid. You're closed-minded and just out here to hate on the Vaio F, and increasingly, on people who have chosen to buy the Vaio F. Last time I checked, this is the Vaio F owner's lounge. You're not an owner and you're not considering becoming an owner. You're just here to throw hate on a machine again and again and again.

And what the hell is your last sentence...accusing me of lying about what I own or why I bought it? I use mine primarily for office productivity and email/internet usage (value the great screen and great keyboard for that), and then game 30-60 minutes a day (including Starcraft II, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Mass Effect 2, and The Witcher 2, all of which run just fine at 1366x768). This laptop does everything I want; it's truly superb for my 90% usage and perfectly adequate for my 10% usage. I've explained it very carefully and it just goes in one ear and out the other.

What you're doing is not discussion. It's just trolling, particularly in an Owners' Lounge thread. Post reported.

 

Mitlov
u just didnt take that out of my mind did you?´
totally agree on that one!
and tbh
as we have alrdy pointed out clearly
for our tastes this laptop is perfect
even the short time if been using this one i can alrdy say that i will love this longtime
this said
i hope u just accept that we like it and you dont
live with it and buy your asus
hf

 

Please , don't take me wrong .
It is just a forum and although I don't own this Sony machine , I still can tell what are my thoughts on its features and about my experience for over 4 years with Sony support with an other Sony machine , nothing else than that .
I am really glad that you're happy with it and I have nothing to add to it .

You own an Apple MacPro and you post here . I own an Asus and I'm posting here . There is nothing wrong with it even you don't like my objective thoughts on this machine . Many of the users who post here and are writing about features , asking questions and asking for opinions are not Sony Vaio F owners and they'd never be . I'm a past Sony Vaio user and I can write to you from my own 4 years experience with this brand and I am sure that this experience may interest some of the potential Sony buyers.

 

So if your beef is with Sony overall and not the Vaio F22 2D, are you going to go into EACH AND EVERY OWNER'S LOUNGE THREAD with the same rant? Better get busy then. You've posted TEN TIMES in the Vaio F22 2D thread about not liking Sony overall, and not once in any other thread.

Or better yet, if you have nothing to add to a Vaio F22 2D Owners Lounge thread besides "I like my Asus," well good, you've said so, we've all got the message loud and clear, you're not contributing or helping anybody by continuing to rant against the F22 (which you don't like but has a very good track record on this forum of making owners happy), so go have fun with your Asus.

 

No , I'm not posting on any other Sony thread . I am not posting here because I don't have anything better to do . I'm posting here since Sony Vaio F series was one of the notebooks that I thought that will replace my 8400 GPU faulty Sony Vaio notebook and by myself I asked for opinions about this notebook over this thread ( and also got honest answers from other users ) .
But a few days before I was supposed to buy this model , something happened - I stopped to be an average buyer and moved forward to the sophisticated buyer rank .
I started thinking about all the drivers that Sony is not updating leaving the customers with their 4 years original drivers and behing other brands technology , and about the fact that they are advertising their products using slogans far from the facts like the "Sony outfitted with an arsenal of features for games" mentioned above , and about the fact that if you have any problem like I did with my GPU , they are passing you like a ball between their departments but never trying to fix the problem or at least to assist somehow , about the price versus features that I get compared with the competitors considering my needs .

I do think that I'm helping by posting my comments here by sharing my 4 years bad experience with a Sony Vaio product and support and pointing your attention on facts versus nice slogans .