I'm new in this forum, and I was wondering what "CTO" stands for?
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-=ToRoNtO-GuYY=- Notebook Evangelist
Don't listen to him, CTO stands for Cut-That-Out -
Yea...I somewhat agree with you on the whole build quality issue on the CTO's considering that they are made in the US and the pre-configured ones are made in Japan.
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I disagree. It's all dependent on the builder. Also, I don't trust machinery to build laptops. they cannot see minor glitches like scratches or whatnot. a human builder can. and like i said, depending on the builder, they can be very nice and make sure everything is A OK with the laptop they build. just depends.
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Listen to this, ToRoNtO-GuYY is the man
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The old SZ's palm rest gets a little hot (a bit hotter than most other laptops I've used). But again, that's what you get for packing so much stuff in that small case.
I would imagine the new Z should run cooler than the SZ because it's got better cooling and it seems to be thicker at the front. I think the palm rest on the SZ pretty much sits on the harddrive (someone correct me if I'm wrong). -
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So I guess the conclusion is that the quality is more consistent when it's machine built (the quality may not always be perfect). And when you do CTO's, you may get some really good ones and a few bad ones depending on how responsible the workers are.
You know, if you order from P1, they actually check your laptop before it's shipped out.
Actually, I've spent almost half of my life living outside US, and I move quite a lot. I'm also quite familiar with Japanese culture. I was just expressing my personal opinion. Of course I see where your argument is coming form.
See the point I was trying to convey is that quality of stuff that are made in China is relatively consistent (good or bad) because they make a lot of them. I chose to use China as an example because they make A LOT of everything. It's all about the probability and statistics. I was by no means trying to compare the two countries. Of course Americans are competitive, just not at the manufacture level...
PS, tough government regulations aren't always as effective as we like them to be. Personally, I think it's more down to factory management.
You gotta admit, Japanese cars are kindda killing GM Ford. You can see why by just compare the interior quality...
We are closer to 500,000 posts than ever before! lol -
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Sounds like you got a really good deal there. Too bad that we can't get your hands on review on the Z anymore.
Well... good luck finding your perfect laptop! -
fuzzielitlpanda Notebook Consultant
Well not to make this into an Apple thread, but all the rumors are pointing to a mb and mbp refresh and also ipod refreshes after the current back to school promotion, specifically near the end of September. I like the Z a lot, but I don't think it's wise for me to buy it at this time. Thanks for the kind words!
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Can someone post a link to this review? I can't seem to find it. Thanks! -
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I found it after looking through probably 100 pages of that thread...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=264339&page=170
Also, I need some help making a decision on which screen to order for the Z...
This is my scenario: I will be using this for school where im studying sciences which means ill be using it for research and labs. But i also want to play some games especially COD4 and Starcraft 2 Whenever that comes out assuming the Z will support it... Also ill be watching a lot of movies... but bluray is out of the question... The 256mb of dedicated ram really intruiges me as it seems to make the lappy somewhat futureproof (in terms of starcraft)
Which screen rez do you think will be good for me...
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-=ToRoNtO-GuYY=- Notebook Evangelist
If the Z series doesnt come soon im going to commite suicide.
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The Z must be really small cuz I saw a pic of the Mac Air in comparison with the Z and its even smaller than Mac Air, length wise of course. Thats really tiny! Any smaller and I dont think u like ur eye sight and wanna go blind.
Great news for me by the way, my buddies buying a Sony XBR full HD TV which is like $3500, so he agreed to buy it at the same time as me so we can get a few hundred dollars off for each of us. Well thats what the guy at the Sony Store told us. But we'll have to put it on one credit card.
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-=ToRoNtO-GuYY=- Notebook Evangelist
One thing I never mentioned before though, if you look at the Z series, theres nothing really 'Unique' about it per say as far as design goes. If you look at the TZ their almost eexactly alike, especially with that green glowing thing on the side.
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'Never change a winning team' Sony must have thought...
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True thattt man. And in case ur all wondering that I have no life, im at work on my midnight shift which is why im on here all the time lol. Bored as balls! -
Here are some cool Vaio Z links for the fans (in Japanese).
Some pictures: http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Style-a/Special/Z/
Compare S, Z, SZ: http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Style-a/Compare/Zs/index.html?l=z&r=sz95
Japanese video: http://eyevio.jp/movie/138760?sssid=62
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I sure hope they will reduce the price of ipod touch. It looks pretty and all that...but the capacity is still a bit too small for the prices that they charge.
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There's no surprise that the Z is smaller than MBA length wise since the Z has a 13.1 in screen, and the Mac Air's got some pretty wide wedges around its 13.3 screen. -
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I agree; service is excellent and the employees both helpful and knowledgable at the SonyStyle stores.
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You guys are really killing me...
It's sad to hear when somebody complain "2k USD for notebook... it is SO expensive"...
In Poland VAIO Z will cost about 4k USD (and Poland isn't a rich country). In most of Europe it will be around 3k USD (and not for the best specs - not to mention there is no official SSD or Blu option)...
I will buy it anyway. I just don't know where... It's cheaper for me to take a flight to NYC and buy it in US than in Poland... Terrific, isn't it?
So please stop complaining how expensive it is...
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i'm not quite sure if you are aware...
BUT THE USA IS IN WAR RIGHT NOW. WE ARE IN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEBT. THE ECONOMY SUCKS ASS RIGHT NOW. COMPANIES ARE CLOSING, PEOPLE LOSING JOBS. GAS IN CA. COSTS OVER 4 DOLLARS A GALLON. COLLEGE TUITION IS INCREASING. THE EURO IS WORTH MORE MONEY IN THE USA. WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK SOME EUROPEANS WANT TO IMPORT STUFF FROM THE USA? EVEN AFTER IMPORT FEES..ITS STILL CHEAPER FOR THEM!!!!
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^Well here in Germany we would be happy paying only $4 a Gallon....
We pay $ 9,44 a Gallon... (~1.60 Euro for 1 Liter)
Well the thing is that Sony says "the people in Europe earn more money because of the strong Euro, so we just adjust the prices and make $ 1 = 1 EUR"
But the economy in Germany is stagnating too because company's producing goods here have a hard time selling them outside Europe because when you as an American pay $1 this is roughly 0,64 Euro Cents, and keep in mind that people are paid for jobs $ 400 in the USA while here in Germany for the same job and same amount of work they are getting paid 400 EUR.
So in for Europeans the Euro in Europe is worth as much as the Dollar in the USA, so a Vaio is in Europe as affordable as in the US..
So the point I am trying to make is that a "Strong Euro" doesn't really help the European economy the only advantage is for the consumers which can import expensive stuff from the US pretty cheap, but have an incredible amount of VAT (19%) to pay...
It is a hard thing to understand I a lot people don't get it right, but I hope you may understood it =)
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Hi,
I read a few post about the key layout being a deal-breaker - especially the ridiculously placed HOME and END keys. I was also pretty bummed on this. Anyone who types well knows you need these assessable... but anyway if you just search for 'key mapper' on google you'll find a bunch of programs than can remapp the keys to other things. I plan to get a Z (raid0) and remap the 'insert' to home, or some other useless key -
-=ToRoNtO-GuYY=- Notebook Evangelist
Ok, whata we talkin the Stock Exchange here or something ehh. Back to Vaio Z's, come on eh guys.
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- Just the Arrow Keys move it one character further
- Ctrl + Arrow Keys move a word further
- Fn + Arrow Keys move to the end/beginning of the line or page
The only thing that bothers me is that you have to use both hands to press the Fn+ Arrows, since the Fn is not on the right side of the space bar....
But you might be able to adjust that and put the Fn key to the right of the space bar with a key mapper...
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Now something different, here is a nice 360° viewing of the Z with zoom function... pretty nice =)
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HTML:Left:: If (A_PriorHotKey = A_ThisHotKey and A_TimeSincePriorHotkey < 200) Send {Home} Else Send {Left} Return Right:: If (A_PriorHotKey = A_ThisHotKey and A_TimeSincePriorHotkey < 200) Send {End} Else Send {Right} Return
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I am intending to customize a vaio Z590 tomorrow with the following specs:
2.53/6MB
200 GB 7200 RPM
4GB
DVDRW
Extended Battery
1600 X 1900
Fresh Start
I want the win xpp downgrade option. My question is: do i automatically get a win xpp cd in the box when i chose win vista business? -
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-=ToRoNtO-GuYY=- Notebook Evangelist
I should warn u though, like I warned everyone else due to first hand experience with the SZ780. Don;t CTO it, just a get a preconfig even if u have to pay a little more. And try not to rush, I made that same mistake myself. It hasnt even come out yet. Cheers! -
Why is CTO bad?
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b/c human hands build it or something like that. I've had a few CTOs and no issues at all. I'd rather a human build it, this way if they mess up they know it. Computers and machines can't detect dead pixels or scratches, can they?
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I Copied and Pasted this information form the following link that will indicate that you do get an XP downgrade. If you decide to see for yourself. Just click to the link below and go to the "SPECIFICATION" Tab, then look under "SOFTWARE", and you can read for yourself.
I believe any Z whether, CTO, preconfigured or purchased retail equipped with Vista Business comes with an XP downgrade. But I also heard that MS will sooner or later not be supplying these disks because they want people to switch over to Vista and they no longer wants to support XP (Your still good for another 5yrs, somewhere around there, of XP support due to big and small companies, and home users not wanting to switch to Vista).
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665411982 -
Hi recently pre-ordered a CTO vaio z, but opted for the low end version. Now i am reconsidering mainly based on the fact i think it might be better to have the model with the higher resolution and more importantly the 256 dedicated vram.
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What will you be using the laptop for that might require 256?
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And Newegg.
Sorry, just can't seem to let it go...
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