Sony Vaio Duo 13 Owners Thread

just click on the manual download, it will open a browser. If the url fails (happens a lot in europe), just copy the last part of the URL XXXXXX.exe, search with google and download manually and install it

 

I cant do this, "Vaio update cannot be used unless it is updated" i get a yes or no to update and thts it, there is no manual download option.

 

Assuming this shipped with 8, did you update every VAIO component before going to 8.1?

 

Stay clear of Sony if you want Linux support. Go with Thinkpad or Dell.

 

Hi, Yes i did, i dont think i could cope with re installing everything again lol!!

 

There is a new BIOS-Update for our Sony : SVD1321Z9E : Bios Update (R1082S7 | 5/13/2014)

 

Well lol x2 cuz I'm having the same issue as you now. My guess is that if a) you updated VAIO Update before 8.1 and b) alternatively you've tried flushing the VAIO Update's cache, the Update file is missing on their site where VAIO Update should be. I'd say either install updates manually (a potential hair-loss route IMO) or wait for them to get their act together... again. This is not the first time a mass of users has seen this message, not by a loooong way.

I dunno, maybe I should be annoyed-er(sic) but I know how they roll and I realise this is par for the course. They will sort it out eventually *if* we are supposed to have updates. I am assuming we still get'em at this stage but hey, this is Sony, who knows...

 

no changelog?

 

@Bios:

....

 

Anyone more thinking on selling the duo and going with the surface pro 3?

I can't see anything that can offer the duo 13 over the sp3.

 

Maybe this will help, I had the same problem i clicked update and nothings happen.
But after an hour it was downloaded and i installed the update.

To bad there isn't an indication that its running

 

I'm wondering the same thing. The Duo runs at 25W when plugged, and it means more cpu/gpu power, like macbook pro rather than macbook air. It also has a bigger screen:

Visual TV Size Comparison : 13.3 inch 16x9 display vs 12 inch 3x2 display

But still, the SP3 looks much nicer, and for most applications the extra power doesn't matter much.

 

Uhm, but the SP3 have the same chip, and the early benchmarks of anandtech doesn't show a crippled device in terms of power.

AnandTech | Microsoft Surface Pro 3: Hands On, Display & Performance Preview

Also, if the sp3 have the same battery of duo 13, 500gr less, better screen, same i7 4650u, better ssd (840evo), I don't really mind at all losing a 10% of widescreen, at the end I always hated 16.9 aspect ratios on laptops.

And also, as it is a true tablet and the keyboard is sold separately, you can search the best deal around the world and buy it without problems.

 

Yes, the SP3 has the same chip but it probably runs at 15W. The Duo runs at 25W when plugged to AC outlet. See here:
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Similar to the MBP, which runs a similar chip at 28W.
But I still prefer the SP3 because of the form factor. It looks like an amazing machine. and the cpu power is more than enough for everyday use for most people.

 

I will send my new Vaio Duo back because it seems to neither support eDrive via Bitlocker nor a HDD password in the BIOS (which is kind of standard for notebooks BIOS). The only option for encryption would be software based solutions which have negative impacts on SSD performance/durability.
Or does anyone have a solution for using the hardware encryption of the built-in SSD?

 

The built-in ssd doesn't support hardware encryption, but you can change it.

If you don't want to spend money, then return it as the bitlocker software hits hard the hd performance and also the battery

bitlocker on on duo 13



bitlocker off

 

I suppose you mean eDrive? AFAIK the built-in SSD is kind of an OEM version of Samsung 840 PRO - which of course always uses AES-encryption, you just need to set an ATA-password, which is not possible with the Sony BIOS and changing the SSD won't change that...

 

I need the nfc, 4g, 2 USB 3.0 ports, full sdcard slot, and rigidness in laptop mode. The duo 13 is waaay cheaper as well.

I do like the surface pro 3 though. Id be tempted if it has most of the above and the i5 version was £700 with the keyboard. Which is the same price I got my duo 13 for.

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Mine finally updated this morning like u described thanks

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Sorry, yes I was talking about edrive

AnandTech | Hardware Accelerated BitLocker Encryption: Microsoft Windows 8 eDrive Investigated with Crucial M500

But the ssd of duo 13 doesn't support it and take a performance hit.

 

I need a little help again, my battery is not running as expected again.

Could you please anyone made a simple test to help me?

Playing with VLC in a loop during one hour or so at:

- 100% bright no dimming
- airplane mode
- performance mode (not tablet or silence mode)

the big buck bunny 1080p h264 video sample and tell me what is your battery percentage remaining after and with what processor i5/i7?

Big Buck Bunny 1080p h264 Download

http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/

Thanks in advance

 

Hi! Does it have any inportant problem as lenovo thinkpad yoga with the ghosting?

Problem with the drivers and win 8.1?
What about drawing with it?

And the batery?

Thank you very much!

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I recently updated to win8.1 but I cant seem to have the hibernate option in the shut down options.
I've tried the command prompt trick but no luck. Checked the "powercfg /a" command, it shows that hibernate is available, but still not available in the shut down options or in powerplan.
Currently, I'm using nircmd to make icon on the desktop for hibernating. Anyone with same problem? or with solution?

 

Reviews of the SP3 on Engadget are showing that its weakness is the keyboard even with the improvements. Not much different in thickness and weight compared to the Duo 13 when you include the Type Cover (something that Ms was trying to avoid in the writeups. 1.13 vs. 1.34 kg for the Duo 13 and 1.48 vs. 2.1 cm thick. Also, adding costs for the keyboard and dock, I think the SP3 is more than the Duo.

For me, the SP3 wouldn't have been a desktop replacement. Some features I would have liked (higher res and ac wifi, but the Duo has many more features that make it the better choice for me (ports, batty, wireless card, NFC). An i5 SP3 review managed 7 hrs. on the battery.

The feature I really want is the instant access to OneNote that the SP3 has. I don't care about the pen click activation, but I would like to get to it directly from the start screen. Does anyone know if you can change the settings in Win8.1 for the camera access from the Start screen to OneNote? It should be possible.

 

Hibernate option is not available in the options both in 8.0 and 8.1. I think Sony/Microsoft don't want people to hibernate for SSD not wear out. When you run out of battery, it will hibernate. But could you please check when you wake up after hibernation due battery running out, is the touchpad smooth or jittery? Does it get better after restart?

 

Actually it's 1.09Kgs, and that's definitely a major reduction over 1.34Kgs - the difference is almost the weight of a Nexus 7. The key though is obviously if you actually hold it as a tablet for any length of time - in which case, 800g vs 1.34Kg is obviously a seriously major factor. How would you be holding a notebook while you're inking (especially on a 3:2 screen)? Oh yeah...

I don't think the Duo's redundant as such - it's still a great all-mode notebook and I don't see anything else which is actually a notebook beating it anytime soon. But the Surface Pro 3 encourages true mobile use and I think that's becoming a lot more important for most people who work on the move.

 

Duo13 doesn't come out of connected standby mode sometimes, it's really unexpected, the LED next to the power plug port does turn on while the power button is held and if it is held long enough, the system does power down and pressing it again turns it on but it does not come back from the connected standby mode promptly as it should and does normally, I tried leaving some music playing from the Music app, the music kept playing in Connected Standby mode, so did the volume keys but it never came out of the CS mode.

I haven't installed any driver updates or anything that might have caused the problem, I even reset it, it happens rarely and I don't know the steps to reproduce it, it might be a desktop app interferring with the mode, I just hope it's not a hardware issue.

I was able to get it outta this unresponsive state by (while the screen was off and won't turn on) pressing the power button, pressed a key so the lockscreen cover would go all the way up and then entering my PIN to log in, then I pressed CTRL+ALT+DEL which brings up that menu, two DOWN arrow key hits and the screen suddenly turned on showing those spinning dots next to "signing out…". I was able to sign in again, so now I'm mostly sure it's not a hardware issue. SVD13223CYB - Win8.1 Pro 64-bit

 

Also Duo13's speakers' sound distorts, so far it has only happened after a cold startup and was fixed everytime by a restart, has anyone else experienced the same problem? Is there a solution?

Although both of these "problems" have annoyed me, but still, I'm very much impressed by the Duo13, it does most of what I expected from it, I just hope there aren't any issues with the hardware.

For those who might be interested, I tried Ubuntu 14.04 from a live stick and it booted up as it does normally, only it wasn't able to pick up the drivers for networking by default, the pen and touch were working but there was quite a bit of erratic behavior with multitouch and the pen buttons, besides there weren't any option to change the settings for the n-trig pen like there is for Wacom pens.

 

Has anyone seen any good deals for the Vaio Duo 13 in the UK? I've tempted by one as I like the Vaio Duo 11 as it's compact for using on your lap and the design keeps the touchscreen closer to your hands which makes the touchscreen more usable but the keyboard is annoyingly poor - the Duo 13 is meant to be much better plus it has better batterylife. The problem is it's still very pricey in the UK and neither the SSD or ram are upgradeable, the Sony Store have a few refurbished units - the base spec one (i5/4GB/128GB) is £855 which isn't much of a saving from the £900 ish price it goes for new although annoyingly Amazon upped their price from £920 to £1080. Sony have the upper spec i7/8GB/256GB also refurbished for £1,300 which is a good few hundred less than I can find it brand new but it's a lot of money for a refurbished machine particularly when Dell are selling the same spec refurbished with the XPS 12 for half that (£650) plus its SSD is accessible and upgradeable.

Still for some reason I'm not that fussed about the XPS 12, the Surface Pro 3 isn't any interest as I rarely use the Duo 11 in its pure tablet mode and the keyboard system for the Surface Pro 3 still doesn't seem as good as a laptop. The Yoga is the other obvious choice but I'm not keen on its rotating design which seems a little pointless.

John

 

I get your point, but it still seems a bit disingenuous to call it 800 g. I guess for users who need to attend a lot of inter-office meetings, it is practical to rip off the keyboard, but for meetings outside that scenario, it will become impractical to decide whether you can do without it. So, the more practical comparison is 1.09 kg. Also, I think that real use will show that MS cut the weight by reducing battery size. This is why all i5 reviews are only getting about 7hrs. The i7 will get even less, while the Duo pushes 10. Still, MS is targeting the enterprise crowd. In such a situation, I also would prefer an SP3.

Any ideas on the OneNote question I had for direct Start screen access?

 

I don't think it is. There are entire (productive) days I can go without putting a keyboard near my digitiser'd Atom tablets.

And you know what? Even though I might have the keyboard in a bag and have a 1.1Kg portage, I can walk around with an 800g device for most of the day. With the Duo, I am walking around with a 1.34Kg device for the entire day, notetaking and all. The runtime is a concern - and this is why I still prefer carrying an Atom as a main tablet, but if the 7-hour runtime works for you then it's not an issue.

Would it be disingenuous if e.g. say the Lenovo Tablet 2 wasn't quoted as weighing 918g with the accompanying BT keyboard? No of course not, don't be stupid.

It's only Applezombie idiot bloggers who constantly move the goalposts in their comparisons for a Windows product to favour what Apple has released ("oh this isn't like the Air", "oh this isn't like the iPad", "oh this isn't like the Macbook Pro", make up your mind you soccer-mom-brained morons), professional writers and people wedded to the fact that these are Ultrabooks that are saying a keyboard needs to be considered an integral part of the unit.

 

Obviously, it depends on use case. As a patent attorney, I write copious amounts of legal highly-formatted content as well as having to make extensive drawings. These two aspects form one major part of my work day. The other part involves engaging clients (almost always at their location) in offices, cafes, and conferences. I need to capture information quickly by pen, but may have to make substantial revisions to documents. I would almost never be in a situation that I would know a priori that I wouldn't need a quality keyboard. Going a day without a keyboard sounds like a vacation day to me. Only having a keyboard reminds me of all the notepads of information that I had to transfer into data at a later time. Less than 7 hrs charge sounds impractical to me. 1.34 kg sounds heavy if you're standing the whole time - usually I'm not. That's how the Duo is a winner for me.

Regarding disingenuous, if the pen weighed a pound would you still not include it in the total because it is optional and detachable? There is the real stupidity - claiming a machine is lappable while ignoring the keyboard's weight. Actually, stupid isn't the word for it, it really is .... disingenuous. If it works for your use case, then great, but mileage differs for others, so references need to comport to the masses. A sports coupe convertible is only cool until it rains if you don't have a top, and we all know the Gillette model - cheap razors and expensive blades.

 

You can change the option for when pulling the pen from the holder to open OneNote instead of whatever the default is. Vaio Control Center > Input Device

 

Oh yeah - has anyone actually found a use for the NFC (on any Windows device)? I've been scratching my head what I could use it for since everything I own bar the iDevices has NFC now... but struggling.

 

I tapped my Sony camera against it and all the pictures I took appeared for me to transfer. Its great as I didnt need to faff with cables or taking the sd card out!!



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So no one else is having any problems at all with the Connected Standby mode? Am I the only one here :|

 

And has anyone else tried Hyper-V on the Duo13, I tried it, and it modified some of the "limits" sony had placed like the processor's turbo mode and power management plans changed for me. Also I started experiencing more problems with the CS mode, and is it okay if I install all of of those "important" Windows updates?

 

Cool. What about stuff that isn't Sony (since apart from as you say cameras, there's practically nothing I want to buy from them anymore)?

 

It's a shame only Sony seem to be really pushing a range of useful NFC devices like BT headsets, BT speakers, cameras etc. - so much better pairing devices by just touching them together rather than the hassle of searching for a device, enter the pairing code and so forth.

John

 

Nokia does it too, but again, pairing isn't exactly a thing I need NFC for.

 

I want to give 3 cheers to Sony --

My stylus broke on Saturday - the clip cracked, and the battery fell out. I have about 1 month left on the warranty. I called and asked for a new one, and it arrived first thing Monday morning.

You can't ask for better service!

 

That's pretty much what you should expect. Now if you had a problem with the notebook itself on the other hand...

 

So is official, Sony Store removed all Vaio products that were for sale on their website. I admit that this make me a little bit sad, i was never to fond to Vaio computers but i have to admit that i really liked my Sony Vaio Duo 13. For me, this is an excellent tool for the university, i take all my notes with this and as a PC is strong enough for running matlab and autocad without worries, also love the battery life.

The only thing that i want is a new version of Office, with an improved Onenote.

I suppose that the only product that is similar in features, is the Microsoft Surface product line. At least, the new model is 12 inch... still i prefer 13, but maybe in the future they release a 13 inch model.

Oh well, i will keep enjoying my Vaio Duo 13 until it get too old and i have to replace it with a similar product xD!

 

Anyone with an i7 can tell me whats your maximum speed processor?

I read everywhere that i7 4650u have a turbo speed of 3ghz but running tests and looking task manager the max speed of my duo it is 2.14ghz

 

Hi all
I just grabbed a good deal on a VAIO Duo 13 (clearance, ~ 690 USD) -- 8 GB RAM, 128 SSD, etc etc. My question is how much space do you have left on your SSD? Mine came with 128 GB, but after Update 8.1 and Office install it has 59 GB left from 110 GB . No music, videos, pictures are on the SSD. My dropbox probably could be worth 4 GB tops.. so that would bring space theoretically to 63 GB. I was trying to remember the space left before Update 8.1 and does 68 GB sound to far fetched?
regards

 

found the answer here... Review Sony Vaio Duo 13 SVD1321M2E Convertible Ultrabook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

I was right on regarding the available space.

 

Anyone have an opinion whether the SP3 pen would work with the Duo13 if Ntrig made the drivers available?

I guess since the SP3 is already in stores, one could simply go to a store with their Duo and try the pen on it.

 

Did anyone succeed with a Clean Install (Full deleting of all partitions and install a clean WIndows 8.1?)

If yes, how? Booting from and USB and from a external DVD doesnt work here...

 

In my opinion they should work since the SP3 pens should be based on n-trig duo sense 2 technology. Duo 13 are based on that tech. Duo 11 are based on N-Trig duo sense 1. I was looking everywhere to buy a spare pen and found out that the HTC Scribe pen work for the Multi flip and Duo 13.. I bought 4 of them .. $9 each in Amazon. And just yesterday I called Sony Mexico and they have the original spare one for 600 pesos.. which is about 40 USD. I think I´m going to get that also.. just in case.
Someone at Amazon is selling Sony's active pen at ~200 USD. Insane.

 

FYI FROM NTRIG

Thank you for contacting N-trig online support.

The MS Surface Pro 3 pen will work on the Sony Duo 13, but the rear button will not work and can’t be activated.