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    2560 X 1440 for 11" Displays!

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by lovelaptops, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    For all you resolution fiends, this article in Notebookcheck.net gives reason to cheer - as early as 2013. Imagine the resolution at 13" and 15"! Note, however, that hardware and software need to be upgraded to take advantage. Content that's 1080p and below looks no better on my new iPad 3 than on my Z.
     
  2. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Bump! Just curious: how can 175 people (as of now) look at this information and have NOTHING to say? I thought at least the Z crowd were resolution-crazed. Oh well. Find your own news.
     
  3. Achusaysblessyou

    Achusaysblessyou eecs geek ftw :D

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    Haha... I do remember Toshiba flashing off a 6" 2560x1600 pixel screen a few months ago... after that, nothing surprises me :)

    and I'm still saving up for it, so... don't make me distracted!
     
  4. ascariss

    ascariss Notebook Deity

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    Should be interesting how the price will stack up for such high res screen upgrades. As much as I would enjoy a hi res screen, a full HD is enough for me, as long as it uses as minimal power as possible.
     
  5. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    I agree that power consumption is an issue, though I read of a technology patented by Sharp Electronics that achieves ultra high resolution with lower power consumption than TN or IPS displays at lower resolutions. I'll find the link and add it.

    EDIT: LINK

    As for cost, everything I'm reading suggests the new technologies are not more costly than today's 1080p displays. Look no further than the new iPad and other high PPI tablet displays to confirm this.
     
  6. ascariss

    ascariss Notebook Deity

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    I believe the screen for the ipad 3 is made by samsung, so not sure how the power consumption is there.

    Thing is, until 4K content becomes widely available I do not see such screens becoming mainstream for the consumer and would be limited to users who are fanatics in resolution or perhaps graphics design.

    Cost should be comprable to the 1080 screens but I would imagine a hefty premium could be charged by the company to upgrade to one. Given a choice, I would prefer a thinner 1080p screen with great colour reproduction, viewing angles and minimal battery consumption than a 4K screen.

    I'd also love to see an OLED screen in a laptop but that isn't feasible at the moment and even though they are quite efficient in their battery use, when browsing on white webpages, it is not that good. That being said, I would love for Sony to use samsung's 7.7 inch OLEd (1280x720) for a small little laptop/netbook/ultrabook?, a P-Series successor. a new ivybridge i3 with intel HD graphics would be perfect, and since the screen is touch, windows 8 would work like a charm.
     
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    bjornb Notebook Consultant

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    According to this article the ipad 3 display backlight consume 7 watts while the ipad 2 backlight consumed 2.7W with about the same luminance/brightness.
     
  8. Achusaysblessyou

    Achusaysblessyou eecs geek ftw :D

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    Probably why the Ipad 3 has a larger battery, but similar battery life (although the new chipset in it doesn't help either)

    anyways, just saw this article on Engadget:

    Sharp rolls out high-res IGZO LCDs destined for tablets, laptops and monitors -- Engadget

    looks promising :)

    although... Sony and Sharp did end their LCD partnership...
     
  9. ascariss

    ascariss Notebook Deity

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    Very encouraging and would be nice to see this tech in sony's laptops, but I doubt the current new batch will have it, perhaps any new models from summer/fall?

    Not sure if the 90% reduction is true across the line.

    http://www.reghardware.com/2012/04/13/sharp_begins_production_of_igzo_retina_display_tech/

    AVwatch has an article --> http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20120413_526327.html

    http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/img/avw/docs/526/327/html/sharp18.jpg.html
    0.8W vs 0.25W

    http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/img/avw/docs/526/327/sharp19_s.jpg
    backlight on 0.9W vs 0.68W, contrast looks also improved

    appears that the bezels can also be made smaller which is a plus
     
  10. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Not to brag, but I started a thread on this "news" (Sharp's IGZO technology), for cheap, high res displays starting Q212, over a month ago. Nobody seemed all that interested at the time.

    My OP

    The thread

    (Curiously, I also had to bump this thread, also based on a news report, after 200+ people read it and did not comment. No interest in the content? More likely, no credibility of the source? :D)

    One thing is unassailable: the technology to make affordable ultra high resolution displays is here to stay. Sony doesn't need a partnership with Sharp, they just need to be a customer. 1080p displays from 10" up should soon be the minimum resolution.

    My sense is that large displays with higher than 1080p resolution will overly tax power capacities of even IB laptops, and also will be limited by OS and content limitations, not economics. What am I missing?
     
  11. Achusaysblessyou

    Achusaysblessyou eecs geek ftw :D

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    Well, if you aren't doing anything graphics intensive, then rendering 1080p isn't all too hard.

    The bottleneck is the fact that the average consumer doesn't understand resolution vs screen size. The average consumer sees a 15" screen and says it's bigger... however, my 27" 2560x1440 monitor is bigger than my 25" 1080p, but everything is "smaller" on the screen... but the average consumer doesn't understand that and because they are fine with "HD" (720p) and aren't complaining, manufacturers don't have the need to improve screen res. Although thank god Apple came out with their Retina display, no better way to light a fire under manufacturers than have Apple innovate... which is quite sad.

    I feel I've had this explanation in every one of your high resolution posts lol
     
  12. beaups

    beaups New Jack Hustler

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    Until windows figures out how to scale properly, this tech is useless. My 1080P 13" Z is hard enough to read already, a panel like this would just make it downright impossible.
     
  13. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    I think a more important issue than resolution is being missed often. The issue should be less resolution and more display quality. What makes the Z's displays so great is not their resolution alone - I being one who prefers their relatively lowly 900p display! - but brightness, contrast, colors along with minimum 900p up to 14" and minimum 1080p from 15" and up (and into much higher resolutions for external monitors 21" and greater). The problem with laptop displays is not just 768p, but sucky quality overall. These new technologies do not just make ultra hi res possible at affordable prices, but they make IPS or IPS-like displays with "Retina"/AMOLED caliber quality also available at affordable prices. Take the Samsung technology in the new iPad screen, scale it up to 13-15", leave resolution at 1080p, retain the near 1000 contrast, 80%+ color gamut and let's just end the laptop display ripoff of the past 5 years (hard to remember, they were much better pre-2008).