2560x1440 13" Samsung laptop

I posted here because I know that we are resolution freaks, but at this point it looks like its time to move to the Samsung forum.

Samsung smuggles new Series 9 prototype into IFA: 2,560 x 1,440 on a matte display (hands-on) -- Engadget

Samsung series 9 ultra book with a 13" 2560x1440 (semi?) Matte display

Same res as my 27" shimian =(

 

I saw that yesterday. This is where I would have expected Sony to have been in 2012 instead of releasing rubbish like the badly made and highly flawed S series and barely innovating at all with the Z series (external GPU... whoop-de-doo).

If this Samsung model makes it into production then I couldn't possibly ignore it.

 

It'll be nice for Metro apps, because they're resolution agnostic, but 2560x1440 in a 13" package is going to be unusable for traditional applications.

 

"badly made and highly flawed S series"? wow!

 

That's too many pixels on a small screen. I suggest that manufacture would pack that laptop with a magnifier...

 

People said the same with the 1080p Vaio Zs... and look where we are now? Asus Transformer Infinity Tab with a 1920x1200 screen on a 10" tablet, Asus 11.6" ultrabook with a 1080p screen and the Asus 13" ultrabook with a 1080p screen... I don't know if I can say Sony has been innovating in the notebook space in a while... Considering the ivy bridge Z is simply the sandy bridge one which brought the innovation of the detached GPU, but nothing from Sony lately.

Also, this is the same DPI as on the Retina Display MBP... so if Windows 8 scales well (which it should), this will essentially be a "retina display" Windows PC. (There are NEVER too many pixels)

 

I find that 1080p, while nice on a 15" laptop, results in text thats a little too small already. Can't image how anyone can read text on a 13" 1440p screen without using extra large fonts.

 

How well does Windows scale with a DPI scaling of 200%?

 

This is exactly what I hope the next generation of laptops should look like, thin, light and high resolution.

 

It's a prototype thrown together for a show; no evidence of if or when a production model will come. And there's no reason to switch to a brand you might otherwise not like just for that resolution...it's anticipated by MS to be a common resolution for higher-dollar machines once Win8 is out. 2560x1440 will be for Win8 what 1920x1080 was for Win7...most every maker will sell it, but be prepared to pay a bit extra.

Yeah, it sure got a high score on NotebookCheck.Net for a "badly made and highly flawed" device.

 

Yeah, seriously. How many S series VAIOs do you think you could buy for the price of what Samsung is going to sell this model for? And the Z series lacking innovation? It's got a 35W quad core CPU in a 2.5lbs frame. Apparently that doesn't count as innovation, but packing on some more pixels does.

Some people...

 

^ i trust my own experiences more than notebookcheck.net's reviews (or any other review websites' for that matter), and i've been using that notebook for more than a year now (even playing BF3 on it), and i don't think it's a "badly made and highly flawed" notebook at all.

 

There's not a single other production model I know of that packs a full-power CPU into something lighter than a MacBook Air. There certainly wasn't anything like it in June 2011 when the Z2 was unveiled.

And despite the "whoop-de-doo" comment about the Power Media Dock, I don't see any other production laptop out there with anything comparable...

Furthermore, what innovation is Samsung actually doing? Packing a third party's screen into an otherwise-unchanged "prototype" of an existing laptop? Wow. I'm stunned. Otherwise, they're basically looked at the Asus Transformer line and said "hey, good idea, we'll do that too." Same with their concept that was a blatant ripoff of the Asus Taichi. Compare that to the genre-creating Tap 20, or the Vaio Duo 11 (with a keyboard hearkening back to the x505, the world's first chicklet keyboard, combined in an attractive slider design that can be operated with just one hand), and I'm not seeing anything unique and different coming out of Samsung. Their options are solid, no doubt, but they're not coming up with new ideas of their own IMO.

 

Agreed, I'm surprised that you can go quad core with the Z, but not the thicker, heavier S13. Do you know of any pictures available of the internals of the Z? I'd love to see what kind of heatsink they have over that processor.

 

The Qm is the Z´s outstanding from the VAIO Lineup!

 

True, but I'd say the Clevo W110NR comes close (11.6" with a 650M and a 3610QM).

And if you're going to say that samsung did nothing other than take 3rd party stuff and cram it into a laptop chassis... then that means this industry doesn't really innovate because that IS what every manufacturer does.

I've seen that Duo 11 out in the past, it was one of the OG Transformer tablets as well as a 2011 CES prototype from Sony right? And considering it took them a year and a half to finally bring some final production model to fruition, I say they're getting just a tad bit behind because technology moves too fast. Not say I hate Sony, I still loved my Z11, I'm just being a little realistic, nothing that Sony has released recently has really made me go wow.

 

That 100% only Sony trying to differentiate between their semi-high end S series and the high end Z series. The SVS15 supports quad core (albeit lower power ones) and AFAIK all S series for a given year shares the motherboard differentiating only in which CPU and GPU is soldered on.

 

I know it has 2 fans vs the S series single fan, though, it doens't have an optical drive to contend with.

Having held the 11.6" Clevo, and having been an owner of the first two Alienware M11x models, IMO, they are not remotely comparible to the Vaio S or Z. On paper, they may be, but in person... that's the difference which landed me as a Vaio owner, this time around. I'm probably biased, however, that's just how I felt on the comparison.

 

Funny how this thread has drifted so - and so quickly - from the ""vaporware announcement by Samsung of an ultra hi-res screen for a laptop - itself the ho-hum spec of any post-retina laptop" - to "I say Sony still makes amazing products; well, I think they were amazing last year but are just last year's news this year!" (I know, I know, both of those are too long for a thread title; just sayin, if that was the title people could mostly just post "I agree" and know their opinion is represented.

All seriousness aside (haha), I do think that Sony suffers from a "what have you done lately?" stigma every other year or so because the "greats" - ie, Z1 (2010), SE (2011) and even the oft-maligned SA/SVS13 (2011/12 - the near-great "value" ultraportable, suffering largely from a crummy screen and a loud fan in 2011 and, in 2012, a below average screen (and that's about all that keeps it from being AMAZING, especially at the price) either fall just short of perfection (how dare they!) or, as in the case of the Z1, were followed by an apparently inferior but actually even more audacious technological marvel, the Z2, which has only come into its own in 2012 (two long years after the Z1, which was at least 2 years ahead of its time!), as the SVZ13, which gave the wondrous Z2 a good-enough IGP to make the PMD irrelevant (and no longer required to purchase!) and pricing that put it way over the top of the heap of all the super-ulatrbook wannabees whose $1,700+ price tags with 8GB of RAM and 256GB SSDs (when even available with both, a rarity except in press releases) except that the SVZ has a standard voltage Quad Core cpu, outrageously fast 900MB/s SSDs, arguably still the best 13" screen (without "backlight bleed" and without being attached to a computer that just can't seem to get all the great piece parts working together well) such that only now do we realize that the Z2, 85% of the SVZ a year earlier, was perhaps the most revolutionary ultraportable of the decade (yes, 2010 is in the decade!) because of its amazing power, battery life (5.5 hrs, 11 hrs w/sheet) at 2.5lbs (3.5lbs w/sheet) and classy sleek lines, (vaguely reminiscent of, er, nothing every seen before!) truly made it a miracle before its time - it took the ultrabook to teach us that we have to sacrifice some things - like keyboard key travel - for slim, tiny miracle machines (and that, once you get used to them, you can type a lot faster on them with less fatigue)...

And so, in summary, I'd like to observe:

1) That the SVS13, SVS15, SVZ13 are the best machines in their class, hobbled by, respectively, a mediocre screen, a phenomenal screen that is red color-blind and THE WORST SOUNDING AUDIO ON AN ELECTRONIC DEVICE SINCE MY FIRST 2 TRANSISTOR AM RADIO IN 1962! (I was only 6, but I remember it like it was only yesterday - when I hear music playing through my Z2!!)

2) Who among us is without flaw? (And who among you is so near great, but for one flaw?!!)

3) Yes, I know that my second, er, paragraph, above, was actually one hellatiously long run-on sentence; didn't start out to do that, but once I got on a roll, punctuation and grammar would have just stood in my way.

And yes, I have, after 3 years of love/hate, become a true, dyed in the wool, Sony Fanboy, so all of my commentary must be taken with a grain of salt - much as my fellow contributors' to this thread, who meant to preface their opinions with the always-proper, "IMO."