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    Analysis of New Sony Z (i5) CPU vs. Current Z (C2D) CPU

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by fast Lane, Jan 2, 2010.

  1. Ryujinx

    Ryujinx Notebook Enthusiast

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the new gen Z series cost $2999.99 USD for basic configuration. Probably $3599.99 for upgraded config... I mean come on, they just release the Z890 series not too long ago! :(

    But then again, knowing Sony... it'll be 4999.99 :p
     
  2. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Core i7 is available as both dual core (Arrandale) and quad core (Clarksfield). Core i7 does not signify quad core, it signifies the top, cream of the crop of the "Core i" branded processors.
     
  3. roweraay

    roweraay Notebook Deity

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    Okay, got it. Also, the following article from anandtech very succintly points out the differences between desktop and mobile variants of the i3, i5, i7:

    Click here
     
  4. SSJ

    SSJ Notebook Evangelist

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    It's a pretty sure thing that it consumes more power.
    You can't get lower than the 9300M/9200M, whereas the 330GT is a midrange card.

    But my point is that it has less features, and probably consumes morew power than a ATI gpu with similar performance.

    On the other hand , when not playing you are supposed to used the integrated solution anyways.
    Still i'd loved to see Direct X-11 support...
     
  5. fast Lane

    fast Lane Notebook Enthusiast

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    So on base core speed there are chips for the older C2D that are as fast or faster "core" clock speeds than the new i5/7. The new i5/7 chips have a new architecture and (key) turbo boost. The above article shows that testing shows that given the same base Clock speed (C2D vs i5/7) the new i5/7 chips are about 20% faster for every day use. My original post said that we should expect 22% faster based on my quick analysis. I was very close (within 2%) to actual "tests" on real hardware so that made me feel like I was not off the mark on how I did my paper analysis.

    The new chips (i5/7/etc) do have an integrated GPU that is faster by about 2x or more than the previous 4500MHD so that is good. However all the items summed up, I also predicted the same or slightly less battery life which Anandtech also showed to be true (the same or no better battery life).
     
  6. Vogelbung

    Vogelbung I R Judgemental

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    If it is a 330M, it makes the machine a lot more versatile - a semi-respectable GPU which you'd be plugged in for, and an integrated for when you're unplugged. Makes total sense of a hybrid graphics solution on a truly portable machine.

    I'm looking forward to more machines like this.
     
  7. fast Lane

    fast Lane Notebook Enthusiast

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    The big question is, if you do not play games, is this an upgrade you "need". The previous gen vaio could do almost any video decoding fine with the 4500MHD. I am just being a devil's advocate, but for business use is there any real benefit?
     
  8. roweraay

    roweraay Notebook Deity

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    To go even further with this devil's advocacy, if you are willing to go with lesser performance, do you even need a Z ? The S-series (or current SR) and the Y-series will carry the baton for typical business usage, while being a LOT cheaper. ;)
     
  9. tktk

    tktk Notebook Evangelist

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    The Z is the top of the line. Given there are now 3 sony 13" laptops they may try and make the Z more of a high end niche product as opposed to their mainstream business (S) machine. That might help them justify a high price tag and bigger margins.

    IMO Sony should get a lot of positive press from the Z as a flagship, even if they end up selling a whole lot more of the other 13" lines. Sort of shows what Sony can do when price is no object.

    This is just me speculating, but I expect more machines like the ASUS UL30vt with switchable graphics, decent power and battery life for under $1000. Back when the original Z came out it had little or no cheaper competition with switchable graphics in a small footprint. So Sony had to raise the bar, even if it means a smaller market share. Sort of inevitable for the top of the line botique machines given mainstream machines will continue to eat away at what had made them unique in terms of filling certain needs.
     
  10. 5ushiMonster

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    On a personal note, the Z at the moment for me is great. The 9300 is ok (or alot better than the 4500MHD) for video encoding and whatnot. Not the best, but ok.

    The battery life is obviously going to be an issue. The current models come with 6-cells as standard, and the new Z will probably do the same. But knowing Sony and their raise-the-bar way of things...

    But an i7 with a mid-range GPU....? Granted, a businessman won't use nVidia when out and about. But an i7 CPU? I'd love to see how Sony have revamped their already small mobo to reduce power consumption to a bare minimum...

    Better keep an eye out on CES for now......
     
  11. Geeee

    Geeee Notebook Deity

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    I expect the new Z to be priced quite high, however, I anticipate Sony to offer this New Z with lower specs at a price point in the low $2K.
     
  12. fast Lane

    fast Lane Notebook Enthusiast

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    Size, weight, sexy factor (too a much lesser degree but is worth a little), battery life (I get well over 5 hours), screen res (1600x900), enough processing power to run all modern apps well and video well. These are my main buying points.
     
  13. daneel3001

    daneel3001 Notebook Evangelist

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    You probably want to add longevity to that!
    I'd trade 300g on a Z for more robust material and then it'd be perfect IMHO.
    The Z is a bit of an oddball in the marketplace to be honest (I own a Z11VN).
     
  14. tktk

    tktk Notebook Evangelist

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    It should get comparable battery life using integrated graphics since the graphics are more truly integrated along with the newer Arrendale chips. But using the discrete graphics will probably sap the battery quicker than before, possibly dramatically so.

    But the new integrated graphics will be about as powerful as the 9300GS was. But plan on having the unit plugged if you want to jump to "speed" mode.
     
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    ab2013 Notebook Geek

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    tktk Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, 3dMark06 of 1743 for the new integarated graphics is close to the 9300gs score of 1823.

    So as I said above, the new integrated graphics are about as good as the old discrete (9300gs) graphics. And I can say with 100% certainty that the new integrated graphics(stamina mode) will get better battery life than the old discrete graphics (speed mode) :)
     
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