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    Are these WEI ratings normal on a Z1

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by mets3214, Jan 26, 2012.

  1. mets3214

    mets3214 Notebook Consultant

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    I have a Z1 and would like to know if these ratings on WEI are normal or accurate. I've seen people with 7.9 for primary harddisk and higher ratings for gaming graphics so I'm a little concerned. Thanks
     

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    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    Photos?....
     
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    mets3214 Notebook Consultant

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    My bad lol, just posted the pic
     
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    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    How long have you used this laptop?

    R0 arrays deteriorate in performance over time due to the lack of TRIM.
     
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    mets3214 Notebook Consultant

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    I have had it for a little over 2 weeks
     
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    xxGenericSNxx Z1 Fanboy

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    But the garbage collection on these Z drives work well. Lots of members have not seen such degradation over time.
     
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    XTACTIC Notebook Consultant

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    No it doesn't look like your Video Driver is installed properly..... install the latest version.

    here is mine.. specs in sig

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Metsn

    Metsn Maiku Hama Yokohama

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    I wouldn't trust WEI in general....lol those numbers are similar to mine on VGN-Z. It's the actual performance what matters...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Ferrari353 Notebook Evangelist

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    Could it be your gpu? On my Alienware m17x, my score was 5 something and I realized it was because it was running on the integrated graphics So I switched to the discrete gpu and it shot up like 2 points

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  10. Achusaysblessyou

    Achusaysblessyou eecs geek ftw :D

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    I wouldn't trust WEI... my roommate's Intel HD 3000 get's 6.3 for BOTH graphics score... which is total BS considering he can't run BFBC2 and I can
     
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    mets3214 Notebook Consultant

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    Well I put my z in speed mode which utilizes the dedicated
    Gpu and it's still the same score....
     
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    Ferrari353 Notebook Evangelist

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    Did you rescan it while the better gpu was active? There's a button at the bottom I think that says like "recheck" or something along those lines

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    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    The nVidia GPU should kick in automatically when it senses stress(WEI), so that shouldn't be the problem unless he had it in power saver mode.
     
  14. shurcooL

    shurcooL Notebook Deity

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    Here's the WEI of my VPCZ122GX/B, running Windows 8 Developer Preview 64-bit.

    [​IMG]
     
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    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    The first post, above, is correct and the second is incorrect. The WEI will compute based on which gpu you have switched to. The graphics scores will be over 6 on "speed" and between 4 and 5 on "stamina."

    I find it curious that everyone trashes WEI when, in my experience, it nearly always tracks with all other benchmarks - eg, when the score for the Z SSD is over 7.6, sequential reads on CDM tend to be over 350mb/s while when it is between 7.2 and 7.3, CDM sequential reads tend to be 300mb/s or under. I've noticed the same correlation on several other benchmarks. I know I'm on the wrong side of this issue, since everyone pans WEI, but all it does is run fairly standard tests on each component and reports results relative to the best performing systems rather than on an absolute scale. What am I missing here?

    @Mets: your WEI, if run on stamina, is just fine for a Z13 with 128GB SSD. Re-run it on speed mode, and the only changes should be the graphics scores will both go to 6.3-6.5. I do have some concern that your desktop graphics WEI looks too high to be run on stamina (usually tops out at 4.8), so if these are scores on "speed," re-run the test on stamina, then back to speed. If you continue to get these scores on speed, there could be a driver issue, but it takes more expertise than I have to advise. You may want to run some other benchmarks (PC Mark 7, 3D Mark06, others) to see if you get graphics scores similar to others of your model; if yours is in line, consider the WEI readings an anomaly. If other benchmarks show your graphics performance in speed (discrete GPU) mode, again, I leave it to others more expert than I to advise.

    There's no question that many benchmarks give inconsistent results among identical configurations, even when running the same test on the same machine several times. I don't find WEI results to be more inconsistent than others, though.
     
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    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    Thanks for enlightening me.

    +Rep.
     
  17. mets3214

    mets3214 Notebook Consultant

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    I re-ran the assessment and now the graphics scores seem normal.
     

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    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    You're too generous. Someone did it for me, so it's the least I can do. By the way congrats on finishing finals at Duke! (it's in your profile - assume that was last December?) Man, I don't think I could make it through a semester of college or grad school anymore - seeing as it's been 30 years!

    BTW, you have one killer laptop. How do you like it?

    Excellent. All looks well. Do you know what you did differently with this run? Have you run it with "stamina" mode on? I'm curious because I have a new Z13 as well (i7-640, 256GB SSD, 8GB) with only a few weeks' use on it and I'm getting a strangely low reading on stamina for desktop graphics. I'd be curious to know what you get. All the other values for on mine are the same whether on speed or stamina, except that the two graphics scores on stamina, which should be around 4.7 and 5.9 respectively, but I'm getting 4.1 on Desktop Graphics. I'm trying to take my own advice and forget about it as long as performance seems fine, which it does. But it bugs me, just like yours bugged you! Love to see what you're getting for graphics on stamina.

    Thanks,
     
  19. shurcooL

    shurcooL Notebook Deity

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    lovelaptops, here are my Stamina scores, if it helps. Take it for what it is because I'm running a preview version of Windows 8 and using drivers meant for Windows 7.

    [​IMG]
     
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    mets3214 Notebook Consultant

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    Here are my scores in stamina.
    Duke is playing against my school on Saturday, we gonna get killed lol
     

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    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    I'm suddenly realizing a phenomenon that I believe is occurring with the WEI: they are adjusting the benchmarks to compare to newer, more powerful cpus, gpus (integrated and discrete) and SSDs (now that SATA III SSDs are becoming common, a SATA II SSD, even in RAID0 can't yield a 7.8 WEI for storage when the SATA III drives are as much as twice as fast, even more. As WEI is supposed to be a relative scale, normalized to 7.9 as "the best" - though in what range of competitive hardware is never published. But clearly SB integrated gpu is about as good as the nVidia 330m in the Z1 was, and the integrated gfx in the Z1 is well below the performance of the Intel HD3000 in SB architecture.

    Hence, the WEIs on Z1s are lower than they were one year ago. The WEI is a dynamic index, and as faster hdwe is in the mainstream market, it seems that as good as the Z1s are, they have to score lower than they did since the "best" available is normalized to 7.9. Therefore, it seems the Sony RAID0 dual SSD array, once getting a 7.8 on WEI is now getting 7.2-7.3. The "stamina" gpu, once getting close to 5 for desktop and 6 for gaming now scores more like 4-4.4 for desktop and 5.9 or so for gaming. I can't tell you what effect running the test in Windows 8 is doing to values, though it appears to be falling in line as expected, if you buy my analysis.

    No guarantees I've got it right, but my extrapolations do sync with the definition of how the index is measured, and it is updating its comparative database as newer hardware is tested, and even the changes in relative values are reasonable under those assumptions.

    IMO...someone may be able to poke this full of holes, in which case we all have underperforming units, lol!

    What school? Duke is annoyingly dynastic in college basketball. Have had a secret hate for them ever since the 1990-91 season, when I was dating someone who wore blue and white to watch the game on TV and screamed at every point. :rolleyes:
     
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    Ha, St. Johns.. :D

    I look forward to the game.
     
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    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    It seems like a good deal, and the three reviews on Amazon tell only of problems with short USB cables (easily extended via couplers) and the need for two ports for power (can't help that, except by getting an ExpressCard USB3 port, adding a forth port so that you still have two free when you use two for the BD. Despite mixed reviews on Amazon (there were only 2) this AKE card has worked for many people on their Z1s - myself included - and there is a whole thread about it which also has modified drivers made by pyr0, which are needed for it to run properly. Don't fool yourself by purchasing one of the two-port EC USB3s unless you get the kind that have a separate power supply and don't mind that hassle. Me, I like that I can slide the $12.95 card in the slot and treat it like a native USB3 port with full speeds and no auxiliary power.

    Back to the BD drive, I guess I'd ask you what you want it for to know whether it's a worthwhile purchase. The price seems good and coming with blu ray software is worth another $50 or so.
     
  25. mets3214

    mets3214 Notebook Consultant

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    Yea, I go to St. Johns lol. I will probably purchase the ake card in the future and I will be using the bluray drive to play and rip bluray movies, it will also be used as my lone external optical drive since I removed it from my Z.
     
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    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    I would advise that you comparison shop the external blu ray drives. I don't think Sony makes their own - the internal drives on the Z1 were made by Matsua - so you may want to check who makes the drive you are looking at and see if you can find any reviews. It's power needs alone make the drive you are looking at less desirable, IMO.
     
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    I saw a video review of the earlier version and it required one usb port and an ac adapter, this new model just requires 2 usb ports which isnt really a big deal for me. I will continue to search for better drives though, thanks.